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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2012.12.12 02:50:00 -
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Jackson Steely wrote:Transmaritanus wrote:Ever heard of a Triple rep Myrm? So in order to effectively active armor tank I need three repairers on a ship with a repair bonus? Thank you for confirming my OP.
Double rep is also effective and your a scrub if you don't know how powerful a triple rep myrm is in average pvp.
Also your whole argument utterly destroyed by this link HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Posted - 2012.12.12 16:34:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Commander Ted wrote:Double rep is also effective and your a scrub if you don't know how powerful a triple rep myrm is in average pvp. Also your whole argument utterly destroyed by this link HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA How the idiots he was shooting could easily have won that fight: Give him something supertanked to chew on and warp in at 20+ km, preferably with some heavy alpha.
Like all those maelstroms? Also you aint gonna alpha a vindicator without an entire gang, AND even if he couldn't break you he could just jump through the gate.
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:28:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:I have a dual plate dual rep prophecy that's pretty meaty.
Say again? x2 plates and x2 reps? Not a very good idea, you should use armor resist hardners instead of plates or else your just wasting powergrid and making your ship slower with no bonus to your active tank. Plates should only be used when your going straight buffer. Two eanms give you similar EHP too two plates anyway at a bonus to your active tank.
Their are exceptions though to mixing reppers and plates don't get me wrong, but in any situation where your using a prophecy your probably not going to be mixing.
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Posted - 2012.12.12 22:10:00 -
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Roosevelt Coltrane wrote:Truth.
The Myrm has active tank bonuses but unless you TRIPLE rep it, a passive shield will be a better tank. It might be a great ship, but its basically the fourth Minmatar BC. Projectiles and shield tank make it awesome.
What is wrong with triple repping if I get sick tank and can still scram, web, and have prop with a cap booster? Not to mention on a passively tanked drake your true tank doesnt kick in until your at 40% ish hp.
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Posted - 2012.12.12 23:34:00 -
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On a 6 midslot shield tanking boat with 4 lows I can fit a damage control, scram prop and 4 tanking modules in my shields. So boost amp invuln and 2 asbs (and maybe a cpu unit in the lows). That is only a scram and prop on your epic tanked ship.
Meanwhile a 5 mid 6 low slot myrmidon has 6 lows for tanking and 5 for cap/ewar. The heavy use of the armor reppers is compensated by the fact I can fit a webifier, have cap boosters in case of heavy cap warfare, and I have no 60 second reload, a fair trade off in my opinion.
If armor reppers took up the same room as a shield booster then the armor tankers have a clear advantage, you have multiple TE's and damage mods along with extra webs.
If a shield tank used all of their midslots then you would only be a bait brick with no point or prop.
Although ASB is just plain OP to.
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Posted - 2012.12.13 00:01:00 -
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Perihelion Olenard wrote:Irya Boone wrote:like everything related to gallente playstyle
Active armor tanking
Hybrid turrets
Drones
All sucks badly
nothing new under the sun of JIta !!! The thing that makes blasters suck is armor. It's too damn slow and active tanking no longer tanks enough. The myrmidon is an exception since fitting three repairers, two cap boosters, and a MWD causes you to gimp the guns. The damage on that ship is based around the drones, not guns. Shields are good on gallente ships since you can put plenty of damage and tracking/range modules in the lows. Speed is much better, too.
Fit projectiles on your myrms dood
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Posted - 2012.12.13 02:44:00 -
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Nyancat Audeles wrote:I agree with OP. Active armor tanking sucks.
The argument that armor tanking allows for more EWAR is invalid; because shield boats almost always have enough mids so they can maintain a superb shield tank (better than a comparable armor tank) and still have slots left over for EWAR.
Additionally, shield tankers put out significantly more DPS.
Why not just remove armor tanking from the game if you don't plan on improving it, CCP? We have less tank and less gank than shield tanks.
Edit: Stop posting Myrmidons and Incursus to say how active armor tanking is fine. If you can only find 2-3 ships that active armor tanking actually works on, then that in itself highlights the problem I have with active armor tanking.
Go fit a cyclone and tell me you have plenty of mids for ewar.
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