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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.05.17 12:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Golan Trevize
My reasons for leaving are my own!! treacherous swine.
I am sure that PIE will put you down like the mad dog you are.
Admiral Trevize-Retired
Thank you Admiral.
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BBizkit
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Posted - 2005.05.17 12:31:00 -
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Oh please please pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase let me catch this on vidlink when the battle takes place...Russo, Hardin is right you destroyed AmAx several times over, while your friends sought to protect its names, you are indeed a fine warrior but one must question this insanity...im sure my brother , god bless him would say the same if he was here...Don't lead yourself down the path to destroying each other, then again realise that we will be there to mop up the leftover's after the ships are battered and broken...
good luck to both partie's but i think tis will be a 1 sided battle
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.05.17 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Edited by: Hardin on 17/05/2005 12:11:08
All I can do is laugh.
Russo has been sore ever since we broke of relations with AMAX.
Most people know why that happened we and it wasn't anything to do with 'glory hunting'.
Russo has clearly never forgiven or forgotten. He spends all his time ****ing people off and now he has simply decided to find a new target. I guess he is just annoyed because I keep deleting the personal insults that he insists on post on our communications forums.
Russo has always sought to dictate the way we operate. He has always expected that we should jump to his tune. And when we don't he gets annoyed. Why?
We have never interfered in his operations. It was Russo who INSISTED on joining our war. The only reason we developed decent relations with AMAX in the first place was due to the influence of Garreck.
He has destroyed his own corporation several times over. No one will work with him for any length of time. EVERYONE who has been involved with him either as an Amarrian or as an enemy know what a destructive personality he is. And he has been given repeated opportunities (most recently by Aegis Militia) to reform - yet has spurned all of these. No doubt because as the universes biggest 'badass' (and he calls us prideful) he is not up to working with anyone...
Russo you truly are sad...
Hardin speaks the truth.
Throughout the conflict with [SNIGG], PIE, and indeed the rest of the CVA remained respectful, professional, and most importanly focused on their goals of preventing us from pirating in Amarr claimed space. It was a privelige and a pleasure to lock horns with such noble defenders of the Amarr way of life, and they have my upmost respect for behaving in the proper manner.
However, i can say the exact opposite for [AMAX]. They constantly spammed the local communications frequency with profane abuse, and personal attacks on our members and their tactics. If they were ever outnumbered, they would run, unlike CVA, who fought to the death with honor.
As much as i hate to agree with a member of the Amarr empire, i feel on this occasion it is wholelly appropriate.
Ignore the comments of Robert Russo, he speaks no truth.
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Luke Verone
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Posted - 2005.05.17 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
As much as i hate to agree with a member of the Amarr empire, i feel on this occasion it is wholelly appropriate.
Ethan, for you, agreeing with anyone seems to be a problem recently. Come home to what remains of your family, and do not associate yourself with these vile amarrian loyalist pigs.
Return to your home, the Federation.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.05.17 14:12:00 -
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Russo, your attempt to use the resignation of Golan Trevize to bring PIE into miscredit once again shows your true face. You are a fine example of dishonesty.
Amarrians should never trust foreigners.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.05.17 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ardor
Amarrians should never trust foreigners.
Kinda odd, coming from a Dark Amarrian.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.05.17 14:40:00 -
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Odd business this. I was under the impression your major contribution to the glory of the empire was prank locking Star Fraction warships when we were trying to concentrate on the war with CVA Russo? 
Star Fraction
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.05.17 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Ardor
Amarrians should never trust foreigners.
Kinda odd, coming from a Dark Amarrian.
For sure you think about the Caldari. Do you believe we leave our fate to the Caldari?
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2005.05.17 15:49:00 -
[39]
So the time honoured burner of bridges decided to use inferno torpedos instead of matches this time. Good show!
Instas??
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Soltha SIl
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Posted - 2005.05.17 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Soltha SIl on 17/05/2005 16:27:19
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.05.17 16:26:00 -
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Russo, I have given you the benefit of the doubt in the past and you have continually dissapointed me. I have even stuck up for you within PIE while simultaneously being frustrated with your antics, citing your willingness to aid the cause, and this is how you act in return. I am one of the leaders of PIE, are you calling me a heretic?
You are truly delusional.
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Witch Doctor
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Posted - 2005.05.17 16:39:00 -
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I can honestly say that I have never seen a communication on GalNet that has so unified so many dissenting voices. The chorus of disdain, scorn and pity that is being heaped upon one with such an advanced state of dementia is truly deafening.
Is there anyone that can speak up and defend the honor, sanity or character of Russo? Or have all finally come to realize that he is nothing more than a raving lunatic?
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.05.17 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 17/05/2005 17:57:16
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AmAx has indeed been denied reinforcements by PIE command.
When would this be? After or before we broke off all official connection with you. Wait you said because of the providence move, so most definitely after.
So tell me, why in the Emperor's name would there even be an illusion that Amax was going to get reinforcements from PIE? I mean it might happen every once and a while... but 'denying you reinforcements'... what did you expect? The Golden fleet to materialise out of nowhere every time you stirred up a hornets nest?
Even if that did exist idea that we should somehow be there with a fleet EVERY time Russo's insanity got Amax into trouble... is rather amusing and explains alot.
If you look at PIE as nothing more than your servants, there to bail you out of whatever you have gotten yourself into... no wonder you will find yourself annoyed when you finially realise that those pilots are not there to serve you, and have little interest in doing so.
Even funnier is the agreement between Countessa and Russo... and Russo thanking her for utterly destroying his credibility. You do realise my good insane caldari, that if you are agreeing with a pirate about PIE being corrupt, when that Pirate says we are corrupt due to takeing the action you are saying we are corrupt from NOT takeing, that there is a slight problem? Dont you?
I really dont understand how we can be corrupt for NOT killing Legion, and corrupt for killing them at the same time. But then Im not insane, so Im not worried about not being able to understand that.
As for the traitor comment, anyone who would attempt to create a civil war between those corporations who are defending the Empire... IS a traitor in my book. Period. There is no benifit to the empire from this, only harm as Russo may potentially allow more minmatar and Pirate attacks to be successful than there would have been if he actually had an intent of working for the Empire. But then I also think madman is enough in and of itself, so I wont bother pressing that point.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
MC AMARR
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Posted - 2005.05.17 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
TEXT
another class A singnature mr VERONE!
you never fail to make me feel in kind ways to your ransom services
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Garreck
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Posted - 2005.05.17 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Witch Doctor
Is there anyone that can speak up and defend the honor, sanity or character of Russo?
I will not speak to his sanity. I've never claimed to...sane men do not fight with the passion or zeal Russo demonstrates. But I can...indeed already have...spoken up to defend his honor and character.
Russo feels he has a valid complaint against the leadership of PIE, this much is clear. Does that make him dishonorable? Is that a bad reflection of character? I think not. Let's not get too chummy in here, jumping on a madman for behaving like a madman. Members of an organization who actively targets civilians need not speak out about honor or good character. The Ushra'Khan has no leg to stand on when it comes to "honor." Honorable men do not take pride in the slaughter of unarmed civilians. At least when Russo meets his marks on the field of battle, they'll be shooting back at him. I don't think slave-laden haulers are much good on "self-defense..."
Garreck
Aeternus Crusade
Aku. Soku. Zan. |
Camar
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Posted - 2005.05.17 18:41:00 -
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And the light made its' way through the universe...
...and with the light all life vanished... |
Ugleb
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Posted - 2005.05.17 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Countessa
The arrogance of the 'glory seeking' heads of PIE will prabably send wave after wave of there members and CVA's members to there deaths before they realease PIE to any1 who has the spark of the Emperor's light within him.
The spark of the Emperor's light? These words from a minmatar? I am apalled. You speak as though you have embraced the doctrine of these slavers, and have sought to broker some position of stature amongst them. How could you have turned your back on the plight of your blood like this?
A timely reminder of the evils of the Amarrian doctrine.
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Raggot
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Posted - 2005.05.17 19:45:00 -
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Fascinating story here 
LOEP has found PIE and Legion pilots worthy opponents.
Russo has just run from us time and again. Now, he doesn't even show his head in Providence.
Your God wishes to speak with you Russo, let The League expatriate you from your Pod so that you may bare witness to his words 
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.05.17 19:54:00 -
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Russo is neither delusional nor insane.
He's a moron, is all.
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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Morimo Gariushi
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Posted - 2005.05.17 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Morimo Gariushi on 17/05/2005 20:37:40
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.05.17 20:37:00 -
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"My people"? You speak like a Minmatar, yet your ID shows you to be a Caldari.
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Dei Gloria
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Personal Assistant
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Posted - 2005.05.17 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Personal Assistant on 17/05/2005 21:18:16
C.A.G. does not vouch for or against Russon's mental condition but we would like to acknowledge that Russo and his corp were very good at "getting away" from us.
The time that Russo ran like a craven animal in his raven from one of my pilots in a condor was very, "cunning" and he demonstrated that his exit strategies were sound.
One of the few times that Russo "Badboy" did display his combat abilities was when he and 3-4 other battleships jumped one of my pilots in a raven. Needless to say that the overwhelming odds secured an easy kill for Russo and co.
The C.V.A. and P.I.E. forces we engaged whilst under contract were certainly very good and with their advantage of home ground and obvious dicipline were able to hand us some very resounding lessons.
However the prefessional conduct of its combat pilots does not detract that there are elements in the Amarrian defenders who are capable of deception and treachery.
During C.A.G.'s short training cadre with Star Fraction (which was terminated early due to unrelated reasons) certain assurances were sought and given to C.V.A about the nature of our contrat with S.F. and of our non combative status. These assurances did not prevent C.V.A. forces from engaging and destroying our ships though.
So whilst we do not accuse the whole of any wrong doings we do suppose that there are/were element whose actions cast doubt on C.V.A. integrity.
No hard feelings though and certainly no desire on C.A.G.'s part to get involved in a flame galnet war, weel unless we get paid for it.
Speaking for the Caldari majority of our corp we do regret that many Caldari have fallen in with these archaic, self serving, evil religious activities.
Having studied act various respected Caldari scientific institutes I have come to the conclusion that if God created all humans and everything around us, why should one sub race of humans claim religious domination over all?
I prefer my heven and hells to be more clearly delineated as having lots of money and not having lots of money.
Incidently C.A.G. has never used slaves and condems the practice wholeheartedly, any liberated slaves that we chance upon are offered the choice of employment as crew on our ships and facilities or else a free ride to the nearest starbase were they are turned over to charitable organisations who then help them settle into their freedom.
Yet so called minmatar freedom fighters have declared war on us when we were under contract against C.V.A.
Such is the madness consuming all parties in this region of space and conflict.
In summary we support some of Russo's claim about there being corruption/wrongness in C.V.A. but we believe it to be a small number of individuals rather than the rank and file.
We further support the claim that Russo is a craven dog whose exsistence is a blight on all Caldari, and call on any Caldari with an ounce of racial pride to eliminate this anomaly in the Caldari gene pool.
(actually this one is more our own)
Russo you now find out that the Amarrian race has ahd thousands of years to come up with answers for every question and statement regarding their way of life that you could ever imagine.
We recommend that you forsake their "god" and return to the true path of a Caldari, military power and money.
Forget those Amarrians who will never recognise you as their equal but only as expendable riff raff to be squandered in their never ending jyhad.
Personal Assistant
Spokes person of the Caldari Assault Group
"Peace through the application of superior firepower"
C.A.G. website http://bosie.proboards40.com/
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.05.17 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Witch Doctor
Is there anyone that can speak up and defend the honor, sanity or character of Russo?
I will not speak to his sanity. I've never claimed to...sane men do not fight with the passion or zeal Russo demonstrates. But I can...indeed already have...spoken up to defend his honor and character.
Russo feels he has a valid complaint against the leadership of PIE, this much is clear. Does that make him dishonorable? Is that a bad reflection of character? I think not. Let's not get too chummy in here, jumping on a madman for behaving like a madman. Members of an organization who actively targets civilians need not speak out about honor or good character. The Ushra'Khan has no leg to stand on when it comes to "honor." Honorable men do not take pride in the slaughter of unarmed civilians. At least when Russo meets his marks on the field of battle, they'll be shooting back at him. I don't think slave-laden haulers are much good on "self-defense..."
Garreck, it's not the fact that Russo has issues with us that perturbs me, but his way of dealing with them.
He's not dishonourable because he thinks he has a valid complaint against the PIE leadership (although I do disagree with his arguments). He's dishonourable because of the way in which he makes those complaints known.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2005.05.17 23:06:00 -
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After careful thought and after several rewrites of this thread I decided all I wanted to say about Russo could be summed up quite simply.
Regrettably I am far too polite to actually type most of it out in a public forum but suffice it to say that I'd rather trust Hardin & Golan whom I've known for coming up to two years then Russo whom has singularly proven himself to be untrustworthy, underhanded, foul mouthed pilot and for whom I have a unwavering dislike.
He's a good fighter but morally he's as contemptible as they come.
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.05.17 23:10:00 -
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So many lies and half truths have been posted I find it pretty childish. Caldari assault group, your stories are simply lies. Hardin attempts to divert attention from the facts I mentioned by attacking my character, as does everyone else who I have offended in the past by rubbing truth in their face. So it really means nothing.
The facts still stand. You can attack me all you like, misrepresent any event, twist prior words, bring up times when I was less in touch with my faith, blame me for actions of my pilots, or more often than not tell lies.
What remains true is that PIE is extremely prideful, which has been proven by their posts, in which they cannot admit even the possibility of their own error, ever.
Another truth is that I have never backed down from my enemies. They can say I have avoided combat instead of dying...but wouldnt it truly make me a madman to fly into the guns of an enemy fleet to certain death to achieve nothing but satisfy my own pride? No...I am a humble person and know when I am beat and should withdraw to fight another day.
Have I destroyed AMAX? I think not. AMAX has gained and lost many members in the past due to people's worries about allies, ISK, or enemies. I have remained the course through thick and thin for many months now, with and without allies. Me a traitor? To whom? PIE? I care not if PIE thinks me a traitor. I know I am loyal to God and to the destruction of his enemies.
I could spend hours writing in my defense, explaining this event and that, pointing out lies, making more accusations, citing more instances to support my claims....but it is pointless. I was never a political person...which is why I have so many enemies on the forums. So I will do what I do best. I will let my weapons do the talking, and thats something we can all agree on for a productive means of communication. It will settle things one way or the other.
I hope only that the pilots of PIE realize I expect to die for what I believe many many times. But I know that the pilots with good hearts and souls will eventually take the time to reflect and ask themselves. Why would Russo, the most zealous of crusaders, fight and die for this unless he truly believes that PIE has lost its way. And some day in the future, hopefully sooner than later, they will realize that they have lost something, and they should seek to regain it.
Selflessness is the most noble quality any of us can have. I plan to show this by fighting and dying in a conflict with PIE until they reflect enough to realize I speak the truth. That they have lost their selfless spirits and become prideful. When they regain themselves, the conflict will stop.
I pray for you.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.05.17 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 17/05/2005 23:41:35
Originally by: Russo
What remains true is that PIE is extremely prideful, which has been proven by their posts
I think you will find, that by your definition the entire Amarran race is prideful.
And rightfully so. We have not turned away from God, that is where our Pride is based. We are part of the greatest empire, and the greatest people that this universe has ever seen... should we not take pride in that?
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No...I am a humble person and know when I am beat and should withdraw to fight another day.
The "badass" of the universe is Humble. How interesting.
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Why would Russo, the most zealous of crusaders, fight and die for this unless he truly believes that PIE has lost its way.
And why would any sane Ammaran care what you think at this point Russo? You are like a slaver hound that has gone mad... you attack anything and everything, not following the orders of anything but the voices in your head. Zealous, yes... but for your own glory. You revel in the kill and slaughter, not in serving God. Like a dog who has killed too much, you no longer are discerning who is and is not your enemy. As a result, you must be put down.
Perhaps if Admiral Golan had left for the reason you think he did, and not for reasons of his own. (Which are his buisness and PIE's, and no one elses) You might have somewhere to stand, as indeed Golan could be described as one of the most zealous of them all. But as is... you are just a laughingstalk.
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Selflessness is the most noble quality any of us can have. I plan to show this by fighting and dying in a conflict with PIE until they reflect enough to realize I speak the truth. That they have lost their selfless spirits and become prideful.
I doubt that any of the True Amarr among us have ever been anything but proud of our heritage, and of our position in the light of God. This of course does not keep us from giving everything we have to the defence of the Empire, which merely by risking the corruption that can come from cloneing (which is quite evident in this thread)... is something we all have done.
You as a Caldari, started as nothing. Were offered a chance to save your soul and those of any decendants you might one day have... and now **** that away attacking those who are closer to God than you ever will be.
Have a good life Russo, for your afterlife will be unpleasant indeed.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
Mos Panor
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Posted - 2005.05.18 00:18:00 -
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Russo, you are indeed a brave fighter. You rush into battle with a fierce energy that is unmatched by most. However, what I find baffling is that although you highlight the fact that we fight differently to you, you continue to criticise us for it. We do not dance to your tune, and the very fact that PIE is succesfull leads on from the fact we do things our way. Make no mistake, PIE has no corrupt underbelly, you merely delude yourself once again. You're a loose cannon Russo.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2005.05.18 01:52:00 -
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To my mind, all this is just the manifestation of a deep rooted disappointment on Russo's part that he wasn't born Amarrian. I must say, I share his disappointment - I wish he'd been born Amarrian, too. Maybe then, he could've joined PIE and learned some manners, honour and respect.
Still, what do I care? Give 'em hell, Russo... PIE, you give AmAx hell, too...
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.05.18 03:25:00 -
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I must agree with the terrorist Makkar in this instance. I believe Russo's psychosis owes itself to self loathing over his birth status as a Caldari. While his faith in God is admirable his obsession and personal hatred for his own identity has led to this tragic conflaguration of psychotic breakdowns.
I have discussed this with several prominent Amarrian psychiatric experts who verify this psychosis, Racial Self Identification Loathing Syndrome or RSILS develops in only the worst 2% of those who suffer the racial identity conflict. Thankfully there are cures.
Institutionalization combined with powerful psychotropic drugs and behavior modification therapy can correct this illness and return the poor sufferer to somewhat of a semblence of competence and rationalization. First though the sick person must accept he is indeed sick.
Russo has not done this yet.
While I believe he has betrayed the CVA I still pray for his soul. The Empire and God offers redemption to all who have sinned and gives us all a way to return to His graces. Russo has strayed due to his illness but there is hope. RSILS is not a death sentence. It can be overcome.
Archbishop
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.05.18 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
I must agree with the terrorist Makkar in this instance. I believe Russo's psychosis owes itself to self loathing over his birth status as a Caldari. While his faith in God is admirable his obsession and personal hatred for his own identity has led to this tragic conflaguration of psychotic breakdowns.
I have discussed this with several prominent Amarrian psychiatric experts who verify this psychosis, Racial Self Identification Loathing Syndrome or RSILS develops in only the worst 2% of those who suffer the racial identity conflict. Thankfully there are cures.
Institutionalization combined with powerful psychotropic drugs and behavior modification therapy can correct this illness and return the poor sufferer to somewhat of a semblence of competence and rationalization. First though the sick person must accept he is indeed sick.
Russo has not done this yet.
While I believe he has betrayed the CVA I still pray for his soul. The Empire and God offers redemption to all who have sinned and gives us all a way to return to His graces. Russo has strayed due to his illness but there is hope. RSILS is not a death sentence. It can be overcome.
Archbishop
Oh how convineniant. Now we have given a demeaning label to those who are different. What's next? Segrigation? Should Russo have to live in a special dormacile because he thinks differnetly then other Caldari. Lets not stop there, we should just declare him insane for not towing their empire's line.
Please, what a shameless insult. Perhaps your Amarrian brothers in the Vronsky Bro's and Sons corporation also suffer from this "Disease".
What a shamless perversion of someone's views. It's ok though, I have always been a proponent of "Fair play." Therefore I have come up with a demeaning label for those who do follow the imperial line, I call it Intergalactic Chess Piece syndrome (IGCP for short).
It's ok though, much like RSILS it can be overcome and you can learn to think for yourself. You must first admit to having a problem though, once you do we can help =).
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