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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.05.24 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 24/05/2005 08:42:56
Originally by: Sochin I thought the scene where Anakin sees Padme for the first time was extremely well done. There was nothing wrong with the dialoge or the acting. Anakin's first reaction was joy, then he realized that this would get him kicked out of the Jedi Order. Then he realized he had better not upset Padme, so he started comforting her.
Agreed. My reaction upon learning my wife was pregnant was hardly what I'd call 'well-scripted". I don't care how prepared you are for it. It's a shocking and humbling moment when your entire world changes. The scene was fine considering all the information Anakin had to process inside his head.
Quote: As for turning to the Dark Side, its not like he had any other choice at that point. He had helped kill a Jedi Master and member of the Council. Killing Windu was a point of no return.
BINGO! I am so sick of the reviews and people slamming this. Take all the other crap away and consider what he'd just done - Mace Windu was dead by his hand. Had he let Mace kill Palpatine, imagine how different things would have been. Though very upset, Mace would have likely proclaimed Anakin a "very brave lad" for his decision to reveal the Chancellor as the Lord of the Sith. Any sorrow Anakin felt would have likely been blown to mist by the thanks of the enitre Jedi Order.
But that's not what happened...
Anakin made a choice to strike down one of the most senior members of the Order for selfish reasons all his own. Think about that for a moment. Put yourself in Anakin's position. Mace is dead. It's your fault and the Jedi will discover the truth. There's no hiding from it and your long-time mentor is offering you another way. In fact, insofar as you know, everything Palpatine is saying may very well be the truth!
That was the beauty of the whole thing. Palpatine mixed just enough truth in with the lies that they became indistinguishable from each other.
Now, I do take expection to the fact of Anakin turning around and slaughtering children with his lightsaber, but I've never personally been in the grips of a Dark Side-fueled killing spree either. -
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.05.24 09:58:00 -
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Biggest annoyance:
Why do Jedi's only have one trick? Namely the "contriving to lose my weapon and then telekinetically pull it towards me at the very last moment" trick.
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Meehan
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:00:00 -
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Only thing that bugged me and bugged me throughout all three new movies was the fact that Vader built C3P0, probably not for any other reason than that they wanted the two droids into the movies somehow...
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:54:00 -
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Saw it last night and I was quite impressed, especially after the rubbish that was 1 and 2. I wonder why the fleet commanders dont focus fire tho, all the battleships go one on one. Eve fleet commanders>star wars captains. Also i picked up in the dialogue that good was relative (Palpatine) then Obi wan said that the Sith only deal in absolutes. Things like that bugged me for some reason . Also why didnt padme know she was having twins, ultrasound not invented in that galaxy?
Anakin was a whiny brat to but not as bad as in number 2. So anyways I have no idea what im rambling about but the fact im choosing to be irritated by small things like that (im not a star wars fanboi btw) shows it was a decent film from my pov
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.05.24 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear
Quote: SPOILER ALERT.
TBH i hated it. The acting was fine Even anikin acted like the confused troubled losser he was meant tot be so...
But i found the jumping from planet to planet irritating at best. The wookie's although a fanboy satisfaction thing was so beyond not needed nor the stupid place where Obi-wan chassed the cyborg.
There was little in the way of the ship to ship combat i loved in ROTJ and a complet lack of it at the end where it should have been. Frankly the entire part with the conversion from republic to empire was so poorly made use of.
The sepratised's was just dismanteled when in my opinion it as the republic turned evil should have turned into the rebellion. On the same matter of the lack of any formation of the rebellion was upsetting.
Finaly the hole betrayal of the jedi by the clone's was so short and by far this upset me most as the entire point was to go from a period where every one knew the jedi as a force for peace to the point where only 33 year's later no one beleive's in the force as made perfectly clear by han solo in the first film.
-Look at you, mr junior movie critic. Nobody else had a problem with going from planet to planet. It didn't bother me in the slightest, and I didnt even think about it until you brought it up.
-Pretty much the first 20 minutes of the movie was ship-to-ship combat. Its not like the other Star Wars movies were all flight sims you know. Besides, this one had a story to tell.
-I was hoping for a little more detail on Palpatines initial speech about the formation of the Empire, but what was in the film sufficed fine to get the job done. The story wasn't about that, it was about Anakin turning to the Dark Side. Read the book, it has ALOT more detail, including a great speech by Palpatine that was way to long for the movie.
-Lucas has said that he cut out an entire subplot about Padme, Mon Mothma and Bail Organa forming the Rebel Alliance, because it was to long and distracted you from the real story of Anakin's fall.
-You are on *****. The Jedi Purge was one of the coolest and most emotional parts of the movie. It was practically perfect.
The movie you want would have been 4 hours long and dragged horribly, then you would be here whining "It was to long and boring!".
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.05.25 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sochin I'm seeing it tomorrow, and I'll write up a full review, like my Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 reviews.
Where is it already? I enjoyed reading your other reviews, they're well done. _________________________________________________________
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.05.25 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Soren
Originally by: Sochin I'm seeing it tomorrow, and I'll write up a full review, like my Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 reviews.
Where is it already? I enjoyed reading your other reviews, they're well done.
I'm probably gonna see it again tonight, then I'll write it up.
You can get a pretty good idea of my overall opinion from reading this thread.
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Xrak
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Posted - 2005.05.25 22:34:00 -
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gotta saw I loved it.
And THANK YOU to Sochin for being someone with some sense about the film.
Ofc there are bit I thoughts werent brillient, but then what film is perfect?
IMO the main problem with the film was that it there was too much stuff goin on and it was crammed in and didnt have enough detail for my liking, eg General Grievous was made too look very crap, despite being a "jedi killer". But this was becuase Windu buggered him up a bit before hand which isnt shown on the film. (I think)
The jedi killing was horrible for me, simply becuase I didnt want it to happen, the acting and storyline bit was great.
Palpatine, isnt the best fighter, and he isnt ment to be. He is a great mannipulator and uses other force powers such as the lightning and throwing things.
Obi-wan is able to defeat anakin because he is calm and collected. Anakin is all over the place, his mind is in pieces, and he is having "delusions of grandur". When he is calmed and collected he is able to beat obi-wan easily (hence in ep 4)
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.05.26 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Biggest annoyance:
Why do Jedi's only have one trick? Namely the "contriving to lose my weapon and then telekinetically pull it towards me at the very last moment" trick.
they didnt find any real use for force pull so they had to invent something i guess ______________________
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fairimear
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Posted - 2005.05.26 15:36:00 -
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why do jedi never force pull a nme onto their extended saber
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.05.26 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear why do jedi never force pull a nme onto their extended saber
Probably the same reason they don't use Force Lightning. They probably figure that it would be dangerously close to the Dark Side to do so.
I don't think the Jedi are supposed to use the Force in such direct ways to kill people. They could probably simply crush your skull with their minds, but that would be using the Dark Side.
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.05.27 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sochin
Originally by: fairimear why do jedi never force pull a nme onto their extended saber
Probably the same reason they don't use Force Lightning. They probably figure that it would be dangerously close to the Dark Side to do so.
I don't think the Jedi are supposed to use the Force in such direct ways to kill people. They could probably simply crush your skull with their minds, but that would be using the Dark Side.
Actually when palpentine is speaking to anakin hes talking about powers that jedi cant teach him. Maybe all the evil stuff is sith secrets or something ______________________
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.05.27 10:47:00 -
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Movie was great story was fine, special effects were cool , acting was non exsistant except Palpatine but even Ian Mc diarmad looked pained as he splurtted out Lucas's rubbish script. Same with Obi wan, also I kept noticing Ewan mc gregors face looked weird in some of the shots like it was CGI enhanced or something.
Honestly the teletubbies could have done a better acting job than most of the cast, especially as Anakin, I can see it now Black Teletubbie (la la your dead ) tremendus applause and the oscar gos to...
As Harrison Ford said " you can write this **** george but you can't act it " that was 20 years ago you think lucas would have copped on and hired a proper screen writer, its not like he is short of cash, hell the guy who wrote troops would have done.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.05.28 00:29:00 -
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I will put some things to rest.
Palpatines greatest strength was to enhance his servants mentaly through the force. After he died the Imperial Navy which out numbered the Rebel alliance at Endor even after the Executor and Death Star blew by 5-1 was massacred and sent reeling en route.
The emperor put the image of padme dying into Anakins head and orchestrated the whole bloody thing.
Only thing I thought was crap was Mace Winduu putting two and two together and not being more on gaurd when Anakin showed up. Secondly Mace realistically wouldhave been more like Jules from Pulp Fiction, I was waiting for Samuel L. to scream "Yo GONNA DIE MOTHAFU**A" and stab Palpatine then take off Anakins good hand for disobeying his orders.
Also any time Yoda fought back the Emperor ran like a scared biatch and beat the heck out of Palpatine. Yoda can absorb and send bounce force lightining back as shown in Ep 2 and 3 so don't blame Palpatine for not pursuing the fight he would have been pwned.Also Force Lightning aside remember the tossing of the podiums, not only did our "Little Green Friend" catch one in mid flight he put a nice little spin on it and sent it flying back.
After the Jedi were killed a piece of Yoda snapped though I think the consequences of said thing happening were to watered down. But then again Lucas wasn't shooting for a R rating.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.05.28 09:37:00 -
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Tbh, I liked episode I.
II lacked coherence.
II lacks a storyline and has some really idiotic twists. _______________________________________________
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2005.05.28 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sochin
-Lucas has said that he cut out an entire subplot about Padme, Mon Mothma and Bail Organa forming the Rebel Alliance, because it was to long and distracted you from the real story of Anakin's fall.
-You are on *****. The Jedi Purge was one of the coolest and most emotional parts of the movie. It was practically perfect.
He didn't cut hard enough, Padme was still referred to as the leader of the opposition, what, which, she was the leader of the Separatists? We all know she wasn't the leader of the Republic.
Also the purge of the jedi was too outright and bland, they were all confronted in the battlefield, there should've been more assassinations, blown up ships and buildings from which they could never have defended themselves. That's how I imagined the sith taking over, not by matching the jedi saber to saber and then some, that was just the cheese.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.05.28 17:55:00 -
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Ignore the turds... the movie kicked arse, if you love Star Wars go and see it, perfect finale to the saga in my opinion.
Bloody fantastic... and i almost peed my pants at the end because i was dying for the toilet for half the fecking film after consuming almost two litres of coca-cola in the first 5 mins, and didn't want to miss any of it.
The film was everything i hoped for and more... and if you watch 1, and 2 before going to see it... then 4,5,and 6 after coming home... it just makes it kick so much more arse.
It ties up all the loose ends running into episode 4... and gives an emotional and evil look at how skywalker becomes vader...
Kicked arse imo.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.05.28 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Sochin
-Lucas has said that he cut out an entire subplot about Padme, Mon Mothma and Bail Organa forming the Rebel Alliance, because it was to long and distracted you from the real story of Anakin's fall.
-You are on *****. The Jedi Purge was one of the coolest and most emotional parts of the movie. It was practically perfect.
He didn't cut hard enough, Padme was still referred to as the leader of the opposition, what, which, she was the leader of the Separatists? We all know she wasn't the leader of the Republic.
Also the purge of the jedi was too outright and bland, they were all confronted in the battlefield, there should've been more assassinations, blown up ships and buildings from which they could never have defended themselves. That's how I imagined the sith taking over, not by matching the jedi saber to saber and then some, that was just the cheese.
Padme was referred to as the "leader of the opposition" in Attack of the Clones, NOT Revenge of the Sith. In that movie, she was leading a group of Senators who were opposed to the "Military Creation Act", which built up an army for the Republic. She thought that the Separtists could be handled diplomatically. She was actually very wrong. Read the ROTS novelization if you want more info on the founding of the Rebel Alliance.
Once again we're talking about making the movie much longer for little reason. Nobody wants to watch a 30 minute montage of Jedi getting slaughtered, its redundant. You don't know **** about pacing a movie.
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.05.29 19:04:00 -
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