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Titania Hrothgar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:46:00 -
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You guys wanted it. So I did it.
I hopped in my little Rabbit (Minmitar Slasher) and headed for Null Sec. That's right. I left the safety of Abduban (my normal hang-out- that and Rens). To the person who aced me.... You're welcome :)
How did I fall? Good question- I have no idea.
I was warping along, jumping from gate to gate (NOT using Auto-pilot) and all of a sudden, I flew PAST the next gate like it wasn't even there... I didn't even slow down out of warp until I'd cleared it by over 20km. There was a pirate there in a small ship who instantly locked on and began shooting, but that wasn't really a concern. That ship cost me almost nothing and was stripped down save for an MWD, Overdrive, and Gyrostabilizer.
The other odd thing was the anomaly that my ship DID drop out of warp next to- a pair of really huge blue glowing spheres... I didn't get a good look at them as I tried to turn and make a run back for the gate I'd blown past.
So.... my question is... what did I see? And why did my ship not go through the gate? If I can find that out, maybe I can make another attempt.
Titania Hrothgar |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
2251
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:50:00 -
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Those were warp disruptor bubbles. They will pull your ship out of warp if any part of that blue glowing sphere is within 100km of the end point of your warp. There are two main ways to deploy these: one is encompassing a gate to stop people warping away from the gate after jumping through, the other is as "drag bubbles" which is what you encountered: the mobile warp disruptor is anchored some distance off the gate to ensure that you cannot simply run for the gate to escape the gate camp.
One way of avoiding warp bubbles is to fly a strategic cruiser with the "interdiction nullifier" subsystem, but that is a very expensive way of flying :)
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Akiyo Mayaki
Industrial Justice Corporation
24
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:51:00 -
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Sounds like you hit into a scrambling bubble. When navigating in low sec and null -> jump to a moon and then to the next gate. This way they can't predict your movement.
I'm no scientist on this area unfortunately, just my best guess.
"By the better angles of our nature.." |
Titania Hrothgar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.12.18 00:52:00 -
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Thank you, Mara :)
Titania Hrothgar |
Rain6637
Team Evil
14
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Posted - 2012.12.18 01:10:00 -
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this story made me happy |
Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen
The Third Rail
30
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Posted - 2012.12.18 01:15:00 -
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Akiyo Mayaki wrote:Sounds like you hit into a scrambling bubble. When navigating in low sec and null -> jump to a moon and then to the next gate. This way they can't predict your movement.
I'm no scientist on this area unfortunately, just my best guess.
Not a moon. A Planet.
Moon may have POS with guns.
ti'n siarad Cymraeg? |
ACE McFACE
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
919
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Posted - 2012.12.18 01:25:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:the other is as "drag bubbles" which is what you encountered: the mobile warp disruptor is anchored some distance off the gate to ensure that you cannot simply run for the gate to escape the gate camp.
Otherwise known as the most illogical thing ever, yes I am mad.
Ovv Topik wrote:Not a moon. A Planet.
Moon may have POS with guns.
POSs take so long to lock anyway, especially if your in a frigate.
"No one drove in New York, there was too much traffic." |
Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo
WHY so Seri0Us
177
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Posted - 2012.12.18 01:27:00 -
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This made me happy as well. Maybe there is hope for Hi-sec yet.
To understand what happened, watch this:
Sling bubbles and all that good stuff REAL players have to contend with.
You may be realising this right now, but you've just won Eve. Congratulations.
I am a pod pilot:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
1786
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Posted - 2012.12.18 01:27:00 -
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welcome to null
you've taken your first step into a larger universe
Mobile warp disruptors come in 3 sizes and they will ruin your day
unless....
basically the deal is every place you can go in a system is between two fixed points, gate to planet, gate to gate and so on
a MWD can be placed anywhere along this path, but are mostly used near an object like a gate or station although I have seen anchored bubbles at mid-points, but they are usually pure fail.
the trick is to create a different path, the drag type of bubble will only catch things on its specific path, so come in from a different angle. The bubble on the gate is worse because you can't really avoid it, and often you can't scan it until its too late.
this is when the perch comes into play, its a handy bookmark you place about 200k off of the gate or station (not inline with anything) so you can safely fly into visual distance to see if its safe, it also avoids the need for flying to moons and planets.
you should know there's also a ship-mounted deployable bubble and a ship-mounted generated type of bubble that can move with the ship generating it.
but you should get frigs to 5 and get cov-ops, then you can virtually travel anywhere and hang out at considerably lower risk
"You were the chosen one Anakin, you were supposed to bring order to the galaxy, not destroy it!" -Obi Wan (Ben) Kenobi
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Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen
The Third Rail
30
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Posted - 2012.12.18 01:28:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:the other is as "drag bubbles" which is what you encountered: the mobile warp disruptor is anchored some distance off the gate to ensure that you cannot simply run for the gate to escape the gate camp. Otherwise known as the most illogical thing ever, yes I am mad. Ovv Topik wrote:Not a moon. A Planet.
Moon may have POS with guns. POSs take so long to lock anyway, especially if your in a frigate.
I warp to the planet nearest the gate, and Dscan from there.
ti'n siarad Cymraeg? |
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Pyre leFay
The Scope
Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2012.12.18 01:31:00 -
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Cant wait for POS to be set up away from moons. Then everyone will have theirs at a mid point between gates or planets and gates or sun and gates. Should be interesting navigation in the distant future. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1496
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:11:00 -
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Pyre leFay wrote:Cant wait for POS to be set up away from moons. Then everyone will have theirs at a mid point between gates or planets and gates or sun and gates. Should be interesting navigation in the distant future.
I was thinking that too. Swarm of bubbles at your mid-point gate camp POS... would be pretty funny. Expensive static target though.
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
787
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:46:00 -
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Yes, it's wonderful getting yanked out fo warp, halfway to my destination.
Knowing some guy took the time to slowboat out to an area of space, between two warp points, just to drop a bubble.
It's just so dastardly. |
Kyo Haku
Kyo Haku Corporation
17
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Posted - 2012.12.18 03:08:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Yes, it's wonderful getting yanked out fo warp, halfway to my destination.
Knowing some guy took the time to slowboat out to an area of space, between two warp points, just to drop a bubble.
It's just so dastardly.
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Adeleda Adoudel
Welp The Monkey
38
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Posted - 2012.12.18 03:22:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Yes, it's wonderful getting yanked out fo warp, halfway to my destination.
Knowing some guy took the time to slowboat out to an area of space, between two warp points, just to drop a bubble.
It's just so dastardly.
Bubbles only work on the same grid as the end of your warp path. Surprised nobody mentioned that yet.
Only way to get them far far away is grid manipulation.  |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
2253
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Posted - 2012.12.18 03:25:00 -
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Corrected an error in my description of drag/sling bubbles.
Awesome!
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
1786
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Posted - 2012.12.18 03:25:00 -
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Adeleda Adoudel wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Yes, it's wonderful getting yanked out fo warp, halfway to my destination.
Knowing some guy took the time to slowboat out to an area of space, between two warp points, just to drop a bubble.
It's just so dastardly. Bubbles only work on the same grid as the end of your warp path. Surprised nobody mentioned that yet. Only way to get them far far away is grid manipulation.
this is why its so comical to see them at midpoints as they flash past your overview
since they are utterly useless
but you don't have to slowboat to do it, just drop a BM while in warp
"You were the chosen one Anakin, you were supposed to bring order to the galaxy, not destroy it!" -Obi Wan (Ben) Kenobi
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4514
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Posted - 2012.12.18 03:50:00 -
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Morganta wrote:
but you don't have to slowboat to do it, just drop a BM while in warp
Well, maybe on a very long warp... but I'd recommend holding it until you've reached your destination
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1497
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Posted - 2012.12.19 00:30:00 -
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Adeleda Adoudel wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Yes, it's wonderful getting yanked out fo warp, halfway to my destination.
Knowing some guy took the time to slowboat out to an area of space, between two warp points, just to drop a bubble.
It's just so dastardly. Bubbles only work on the same grid as the end of your warp path. Surprised nobody mentioned that yet. Only way to get them far far away is grid manipulation.
Today I learned...
Man I am still such a noob.. 
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1252
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Posted - 2012.12.19 00:41:00 -
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Titania Hrothgar wrote:You guys wanted it. So I did it.
I hopped in my little Rabbit (Minmitar Slasher) and headed for Null Sec. That's right. I left the safety of Abduban (my normal hang-out- that and Rens). To the person who aced me.... You're welcome :)
How did I fall? Good question- I have no idea.
I was warping along, jumping from gate to gate (NOT using Auto-pilot) and all of a sudden, I flew PAST the next gate like it wasn't even there... I didn't even slow down out of warp until I'd cleared it by over 20km. There was a pirate there in a small ship who instantly locked on and began shooting, but that wasn't really a concern. That ship cost me almost nothing and was stripped down save for an MWD, Overdrive, and Gyrostabilizer.
The other odd thing was the anomaly that my ship DID drop out of warp next to- a pair of really huge blue glowing spheres... I didn't get a good look at them as I tried to turn and make a run back for the gate I'd blown past.
So.... my question is... what did I see? And why did my ship not go through the gate? If I can find that out, maybe I can make another attempt.
With no guns, what was the gyro for?
Next time you get caught in one of these, type into local: "Don't shoot! I'm on a peaceful mission of exploration".
Hey, it works on TV.
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