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Womyn Power
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.12.18 23:01:00 -
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Is local supposed to be able to set to blink via custom parameters (neutral/nostanding on entry, no blink on blue/positive standing)?
This seems like a built in macro for making nullsec ratters literally uncatchable, and seems to be a fairly 'dirty secret' among most major sov holding alliance forums as to 'How to never get ganked again'.
Just wondering if this was CCPs intention or clever use of mechanics presented to players.
EDIT: Just a bit of 'proof' from a spy alt on how this all works.
http://www.shotpix.com/images/77680362130783420885.jpg
http://www.shotpix.com/images/53054306504172519745.jpg |

Phil Da Agony
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.19 01:52:00 -
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If thats an exploit what the hell detachin the local window is? insta-perma-ban-of-doom?
Lol these kids... |

Womyn Power
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
45
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Posted - 2012.12.19 04:02:00 -
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Phil Da Agony wrote:If thats an exploit what the hell detachin the local window is? insta-perma-ban-of-doom?
Lol these kids...
watching local and having local literally flash when someone enters ENTIRELY based on standings is pretty gamebreaking for nullsec roamers |

Seranova Farreach
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 05:14:00 -
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we just need to remove people automatically been shown on local (like in wormholes) thus the danger suprise suspence and excitment is back.. |

Tsobai Hashimoto
FATAL Warfare Reckless Faith
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Posted - 2012.12.19 07:15:00 -
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my local flashes everytime a neut or anyone enters system. not leave though. it auto started doimg it after some patch about two momths ago (mayne less)
not an expoilt. its a new feature |

Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.12.19 10:13:00 -
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Tsobai Hashimoto wrote:my local flashes everytime a neut or anyone enters system. not leave though. it auto started doimg it after some patch about two momths ago (mayne less)
not an expoilt. its a new feature
This..
However i think OP meant by changing overview settings so that all neuts/hostiles shows as gray neutrals and blinks on local chat. Not sure u can actually do that for chat window. I know u can get them blink in your overview but blink in chat window is new to me.
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Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.12.19 10:20:00 -
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Seranova Farreach wrote:we just need to remove people automatically been shown on local (like in wormholes) thus the danger suprise suspence and excitment is back..
No we dont. Its stupid idea cause most of null residents would just move in hisec to do pve. Atleast i would.. Or then i would just quit eve and start playing some other game since hisec so boring..
I think you are thinking too one sided here just on the gankers perspective. Something like this "if there wouldnt be local those stupid null noobs would just wait on top belt that i can go to gank them". But thats not what going to happen. Whats going to happen is null going to die to emptynes.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 10:52:00 -
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So local had yet another boost, to it's easy mode instant intel. Great move. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Matthew97
Pro Synergy ARK.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 11:04:00 -
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Being able to set neutrals to have a gray tag and blink etc has been in EvE for AGES.
This is nothing new and I've used it myself before. |

Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.12.19 12:52:00 -
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Mag's wrote:So local had yet another boost, to it's easy mode instant intel. Great move. 
Ya bit like d-scan.. 
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Womyn Power
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
45
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Posted - 2012.12.19 18:33:00 -
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Matthew97 wrote:Being able to set neutrals to have a gray tag and blink etc has been in EvE for AGES.
This is nothing new and I've used it myself before.
Nah most recently with the local window changes they introduced an actual ability to make the local window pilots in space thingy flash based on user defined standings.
I just simply feel like this might've been an oversight by CCP, either way as far as I know they've chosen not to address the issue or even explain why it was added in the first place. I just feel like local was already a strong enough tool without a built in 'cheat' whereby even if there's 50+ blues in system it can be set to ONLY flash when a neutral/hostile enters, kind of defeats the point of roaming for ratters in nullsec. When combined with the new AI changes (rats switching ~instantly~ to a decloaked stealthbomber with a point) makes catching/killing ratters nearly impossible. |

Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Relativity Alliance
810
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:10:00 -
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Keko Khaan wrote:Mag's wrote:So local had yet another boost, to it's easy mode instant intel. Ya bit like d-scan..  Great Swahili!
You can make D-Scan work with no input and automatically update a list with pilot IDs the moment they enter a system?
All this time we were just using local for this.... now I feel like I was missing out! Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |

Crimeo Khamsi
AirHogs Zulu People
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:17:00 -
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Quote:No we dont. Its stupid idea cause most of null residents would just move in hisec to do pve. Atleast i would.. Or then i would just quit eve and start playing some other game since hisec so boring..
I think you are thinking too one sided here just on the gankers perspective. Something like this "if there wouldnt be local those stupid null noobs would just wait at zero on top belt that i can go to gank them". But thats not what going to happen. Whats going to happen is null going to die to emptynes.
Not if nullsec were given even more essential ores, ice was moved exclusively to null, etc. etc.
It's not hard to force people to go somewhere. Just make it so they can't build anything in high sec unless somebody goes to null to get the resources that only appear there. That will guarantee people in null no matter what, because if nobody goes, the rewards/prices will keep going up and up until some people do go. |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
610
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:49:00 -
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The window flashes when you mouseover it, and the list changes, regardless of who it is that enters/leaves. If you have some evidence of it changing only based on standings, then perhaps post that, not pics of the overview window.
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Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:56:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:The window flashes when you mouseover it, and the list changes, regardless of who it is that enters/leaves. If you have some evidence of it changing only based on standings, then perhaps post that, not pics of the overview window. +1, I thought I was missing something there for a second.
The linked pictures are to allow you to setup the colortag and background associated with the Overview to blink, not local. As Rengerel said, local flashes if you have the cursor over it and anyone leaves or enters the system, whether ally, WT, red, blue, polka-dot, or whatever.
Edit: Seriously, go grab a cloak ship and cloak up in a pipe system Make sure your mouse is no where near the local window and see if it flashes. Lighting a cyno to your heart... |

Verity Sovereign
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
261
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Posted - 2012.12.20 09:26:00 -
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Keko Khaan wrote:Seranova Farreach wrote:we just need to remove people automatically been shown on local (like in wormholes) thus the danger suprise suspence and excitment is back.. No we dont. Its stupid idea cause most of null residents would just move in hisec to do pve. Atleast i would.. Or then i would just quit eve and start playing some other game since hisec so boring.. I think you are thinking too one sided here just on the gankers perspective. Something like this "if there wouldnt be local those stupid null noobs would just wait at zero on top belt that i can go to gank them". But thats not what going to happen. Whats going to happen is null going to die to emptynes.
If you would quite because you aren't safer than in high sec space... maybe eve isn't for you
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Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.12.20 09:54:00 -
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Verity Sovereign wrote:Keko Khaan wrote:Seranova Farreach wrote:we just need to remove people automatically been shown on local (like in wormholes) thus the danger suprise suspence and excitment is back.. No we dont. Its stupid idea cause most of null residents would just move in hisec to do pve. Atleast i would.. Or then i would just quit eve and start playing some other game since hisec so boring.. I think you are thinking too one sided here just on the gankers perspective. Something like this "if there wouldnt be local those stupid null noobs would just wait at zero on top belt that i can go to gank them". But thats not what going to happen. Whats going to happen is null going to die to emptynes. If you would quite because you aren't safer than in high sec space... maybe eve isn't for you
Well if your that dumb maybe eve is not for you.. I havent said anyhthing about safety of hisec. I said "because highsec is so boring" and what does this gotta do with safety? Nothing...
But maybe its just easier for people with you IQ to lie about others sayings to make your point sound better..
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Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.12.20 10:03:00 -
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Crimeo Khamsi wrote:Quote:No we dont. Its stupid idea cause most of null residents would just move in hisec to do pve. Atleast i would.. Or then i would just quit eve and start playing some other game since hisec so boring..
I think you are thinking too one sided here just on the gankers perspective. Something like this "if there wouldnt be local those stupid null noobs would just wait at zero on top belt that i can go to gank them". But thats not what going to happen. Whats going to happen is null going to die to emptynes. Not if nullsec were given even more essential ores, ice was moved exclusively to null, etc. etc. It's not hard to force people to go somewhere. Just make it so they can't build anything in high sec unless somebody goes to null to get the resources that only appear there. That will guarantee people in null no matter what, because if nobody goes, the rewards/prices will keep going up and up until some people do go.
You dont see the point do you. If they make living in null even more harder than it allready is. It is very easy to unsub too and go find another game.. Then it will come hard to try force people when theyre unsubbing their accounts...
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Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.12.20 10:10:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:Keko Khaan wrote:Mag's wrote:So local had yet another boost, to it's easy mode instant intel. Ya bit like d-scan..  Great Swahili! You can make D-Scan work with no input and automatically update a list with pilot IDs the moment they enter a system? All this time we were just using local for this.... now I feel like I was missing out!
Oh noes you need to click mouse button once and you can see whats in space.. Thats really pro of you not sure if i could manage to do that myself.. Not to mention that same clicking reveals if someone trying to probe you..
Theres nothing wrong with local atm and it doesnt need changing.. So stop whining about it..
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