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Snare
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Posted - 2005.05.26 21:06:00 -
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ok im fairly new to using a megathron and ive been wanting to try out blasters but i really dont know how to get a good setup going. any suggestions?
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Tragar
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Posted - 2005.05.26 21:08:00 -
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blasters, nos, dmg mods, mwd, cap booster, armor rep, win.
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Palitir
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Posted - 2005.05.26 21:13:00 -
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7* Anode Mega Neutron Particle Cannon
1* Arb Siege
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2*Painters
2*mid whatever
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7*Dmg mods
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OMGBUHU I am teh one with wierd setups. |
Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.05.26 21:18:00 -
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7 best blaster you can afford
1 disruptor, 1 webber, 1 100mm ab tech 2, 1 sb2
1 large rep, all the rest are mag stab2's.
You're not there to tank...you're there to gank.
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Snare
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Posted - 2005.05.26 21:22:00 -
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What would be the cheapest, best blasters? im semi limited on cash atm
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.05.26 21:35:00 -
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thorax
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.05.26 21:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Snare
What would be the cheapest, best blasters? im semi limited on cash atm
Dont worry about that so much. Do what you can. Don't skimp on damage mods though. They will make whatever type of blaster you end up with more potent.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.05.27 01:02:00 -
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Dont waste your time flying Blasterthrons untill CCP has
made them into what they were made for - king of CQC.
ATM its no way near worth the risk you take in a blasterthron
since a raven w/t torps will still pwn you if eq/setup are
"the same" ie: gank.
Use rails.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Letifer Deus
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Posted - 2005.05.27 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Dreez
Dont waste your time flying Blasterthrons untill CCP has
made them into what they were made for - king of CQC.
ATM its no way near worth the risk you take in a blasterthron
since a raven w/t torps will still pwn you if eq/setup are
"the same" ie: gank.
Use rails.
Sadly, despite my love of blasters, Dreez is right. =/
I am the OG PIIIIIMP |
Madcap Magician
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Posted - 2005.05.27 01:19:00 -
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Let me help a bit, and forgive me as I've been on a 3 month break if any of this is outdated:
7 Ion Blaster Cannon Is
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher (firing defenders)
2 Cap Recharger 2s (I know they're expensive, but worth the buy here)
Warp Scrambler
100MN MWD
1-2 Large Armor Reps
2-3 Armor Hardeners
2 Magnetic Field Stabilizers
1-2 Capacitor Power Relays
Passive cap charge 4tw, been doing Thron for a very long time. Low slots are generally a toss up, as you need to suit your current needs on the field. When you get a chance to afford/use more advanced equipment, send me a message ingame and I'll help you with tips on module purchases.
Mad
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Bat Masterson
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Posted - 2005.05.27 04:01:00 -
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Mad, no cap booster? No webber? ???
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2005.05.27 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Palitir
7* Anode Mega Neutron Particle Cannon
1* Arb Siege
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2*Painters
2*mid whatever
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7*Dmg mods
Okay, I might be incredibly dense, but how exactly is that going to catch anything, much less hold them in place?
Not mentioning that Anodes use more CPU so you might even run out of CPU with that setup?
I've seen a lot of different suggestions for blasterthron setups in my time, this might be take the prize for most nonsensical I've seen.
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
~William Hazlitt
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.05.27 08:52:00 -
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folks posting here really don't have a clue.
7x anode neutron, 7x dmg mods, mwd => 2x whatever turns into 2x nothing, more or less.
problem with mega is that it is so cpu limited that semi tank/gank setup just don't work. Either go for full tank with electrons & injector or full gank with ions/neutrons and pray.
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Lefevre
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Posted - 2005.05.27 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: Lefevre on 27/05/2005 11:25:49
Originally by: LUKEC
folks posting here really don't have a clue.
7x anode neutron, 7x dmg mods, mwd => 2x whatever turns into 2x nothing, more or less.
problem with mega is that it is so cpu limited that semi tank/gank setup just don't work. Either go for full tank with electrons & injector or full gank with ions/neutrons and pray.
What makes you so special that you can claim no one else have a clue?
The setup you posted has more or less been posted by paltir already and it's a gank setup thats pretty much easy to figure out.
I suggest playing around with 7 electrons, heavy nos/smartbomb, mwd, scrambler, web, heavy cap injector, 1 large armor rep, 1 medium armor rep (try to get tech 2 version), 3 active hardners, 0-1 cap relays and 1-2 damage mods. The limiting factor will be cpu but with a good named setup you can should be able to fit 2 damage mods.
In battle remember to use your drones. 8-10 Heavy drones can often make you break the targets tank a lot faster then without.
Edit: oops forgot to add armor hardners 
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siim
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Posted - 2005.05.27 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
folks posting here really don't have a clue.
7x anode neutron, 7x dmg mods, mwd => 2x whatever turns into 2x nothing, more or less.
problem with mega is that it is so cpu limited that semi tank/gank setup just don't work. Either go for full tank with electrons & injector or full gank with ions/neutrons and pray.
looks like u dont have a clue 
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DaHeaVYFo
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Posted - 2005.05.27 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: DaHeaVYFo on 27/05/2005 10:34:15
What I think, is that you need a MAD amount of skills to make the blasterthron working!
Imo it's because of the cap-limitations of the Mega.
1st: Navigation: (You need to get really close to your target and stay close, so you need MWD or AB)
must have Skills: High speed manoevering lvl4, Navigation 4.
+ a webber to keep your target there (a Tempest can run away faster then you)
2nd: Mechanics: The old idea of a Blasterthron was to take armour damage before u could open fire. (it still is in some way, so you need a tank)
must have skills: Repair systems lvl5, Mechanics lvl5, Hull upgrades 4.
My tank would be: L 'accom' repper, med repper II, kin,therm,explosive hardners.
3rd: Engineering: Like I said, the cap is it's main problem (and it takes a lot of cap to keep the blasters going + repairing and thus "wearing your opponent out"
must have skills: Engineering 5, energy mngmt 4, the power skill thingy 5 (what's its name), You need a Nosferatu (or 2), and a cap injector with 800s.
4th: Gunnery: Weapon upgrades 5 is not a luxury, it's one of the skills you must have, it does miracles. Controlled burst (again for cap reasons)
Anode mega neutron cannons take the **** to fit, so fit Ions. The best named guns are Modal mega Ion particle cannons iirc.
And I don't know why anyone hasnt mentioned the drones. Fit 10 ogres aswell 
so my set-up would be:
- 7 x 'named' Ion blasters
- 1 x Nosferatu (if u can still fit this in)
- 100Mn MWD
- Webber
- scrambler
- Heavy cap injector w/ 800s (put 6-7x800's in ur cargo)
- Large 'acomm' repper
- Med repper II
- kinetic, thermal, explosive hardners
- 1 cpu? / magnetic field stab II
- Ahum yes: WCS  the B'thron is a suicide ship! cheeky ravens may poon u, but the future is bright  
+ 10 Ogres
+ a pilot that knows how to fly the bloody thing 
As it is mentioned above, Rails are 'atm' still the way to go on a thron tho, to be semi safe 
EDIT:
- If you have good shield skills that's a good bonus! It provides a good buffer before u take armour dmg and gives u some extra thinking time to put on the repairs.
- The fight lasts as long as you have a 800 injecting, so it's 80% of the times over when u're out of cap (and better run to a station to get new ones)
- The B'Thron is still not totally tweaked as it should be, it was supposed to be the most lethal ship from up close but fair and square is not. The pg requirements for hybrids was a good step forward.
"Ot rint, rint terrin" |
LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.05.27 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 27/05/2005 11:21:30
Originally by: DaHeaVYFo
Edited by:
- 7 x 'named' Ion blasters
- 1 x Nosferatu (if u can still fit this in)
- 100Mn MWD
- Webber
- scrambler
- Heavy cap injector w/ 800s (put 6-7x800's in ur cargo)
- Large 'acomm' repper
- Med repper II
- kinetic, thermal, explosive hardners
- 1 cpu? / magnetic field stab II
- Ahum yes: WCS the B'thron is a suicide ship! cheeky ravens may poon u, but the future is bright
+ 10 Ogres
+ a pilot that knows how to fly the bloody thing
just another theoretical setup.
Folks plz try to put things on b4 posting.
And i want to see how does it fit: 7x neutrons, MWD & injector PG wise, if not cpu wise. (without grid mods)
And you can put 8 cap charges in cargo + 350am , so i really don't know what's the point of having 6 or 7.(80 rounds in neutrons is enough to kill a fleet)
And ok, i don't have a clue about blasterthrons if that is your opinion.
And modal ions... get me rack of 7, i'll pay you 200mil for those.
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Eamz
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Posted - 2005.05.27 11:45:00 -
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I was using the following setup the other day in 1v2 (raven and typhoon), killed one (as i died).
7x modal mega electron
1x heavy ghoul nosfer
1x quad lif
1x named web
1x named scrambler
1x named cap injector
1x Large Rep II
1x Med Rep II
3x named hardeners (em, therm and kinetic)
2x mag stab II
If you are going 1v1, unfit mer repper II and put another mag stab on.
If its group PvP i would fit another hardener, explosive ofc because you always find ravens in those situations.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.05.27 12:04:00 -
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7x electrons
1x hvy nos
mwd
injector
web
scramble
2xlarge reps
3xhardners
2xdmg mods
or
7xions
1xhvy nos
mwd
injector
scramble
web
1xlarge rep
3xhardners
3xdmg mods
I have tech2s on mine now and my setup differs from both but i know both the above fit with named gear. It is the only way to fit stuff on a blasterthron. The blasters + MWD take insane amounts of CPU and leave not a lot left for anything else
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DaHeaVYFo
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Posted - 2005.05.27 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
just another theoretical setup.
Folks plz try to put things on b4 posting.
And i want to see how does it fit: 7x neutrons, MWD & injector PG wise, if not cpu wise. (without grid mods)
And you can put 8 cap charges in cargo + 350am , so i really don't know what's the point of having 6 or 7.(80 rounds in neutrons is enough to kill a fleet)
And ok, i don't have a clue about blasterthrons if that is your opinion.
And modal ions... get me rack of 7, i'll pay you 200mil for those.
- Theoretical: yes, so is every setup
- Ive tried it with non-named guns (i never said you _Have_ to use named ones, but it's a bonus to get some spare cpu to maybe fit in a nos!
screenie
Note: i didnt have enough cpu, so i fitted a rocket launcher w/ defenders.
"Ot rint, rint terrin" |
Gortex
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Posted - 2005.05.27 16:34:00 -
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DaHeaVYFo
why did you green out the name of your ship? You can still see that its name is Helm of Kronos, says it at the top of the Fitting Window
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Demetrius Carnigie
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Posted - 2005.05.27 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Demetrius Carnigie on 27/05/2005 16:46:58
WCS? you make me sick
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2005.05.27 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dreez
Dont waste your time flying Blasterthrons untill CCP has
made them into what they were made for - king of CQC.
ATM its no way near worth the risk you take in a blasterthron
since a raven w/t torps will still pwn you if eq/setup are
"the same" ie: gank.
Use rails.
have to tottaly agree, a gankageddon outdamages a gankathron :S
I'tS NOT FAIR, make the blastathron king of CQC.
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Snare
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Posted - 2005.05.27 19:04:00 -
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these are some great suggestions people!
keep um coming ! 
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.05.27 19:09:00 -
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that wcs instad of dmg mod is blasphemy 
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DaHeaVYFo
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Posted - 2005.05.28 00:54:00 -
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I'm not gonna argue, WCS are a pain when fighting against... but tell me this, have u ever fitted one yourself? EEK you have?
THE POINT IS , the blasterthron is not the CQC ship of today's world, and i'm the first one to give out the wcs in a setup. (ccp broke a promise)
IT's A bloody SUICIDE ship!
quote me on this:
"A promise not forfilled by CCP, made my thron into a suicide ship that forced me to fit a wcs"
happy now?
And i'm not ashamed for it, in this setup.
Friendly greetz,
Heavy.
"Ot rint, rint terrin" |
Galk
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Posted - 2005.05.28 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 28/05/2005 01:07:15
Seen said before hand.
Stupid to do anything else realy than fit 6-7 mag fields.
Leaves your options limited, but your guaranty the win.
Find a friend.
You will die in your mega, but you will take 2-3 with you.
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Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/ |
DaHeaVYFo
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Posted - 2005.05.28 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Galk
Edited by: Galk on 28/05/2005 01:07:15
Seen said before hand.
Stupid to do anything else realy than fit 6-7 mag fields.
Leaves your options limited, but your guaranty the win.
Find a friend.
You will die in your mega, but you will take 2-3 with you.
May luck, a good pair of balls, and the force be with you... It's not what CCP intended I've trained up 70% of my eve-carreer to be a blasterthron pilot. Even my fellow corp mates - some are legends - prefer the rail- over the Blasterthron.
too bad
"Ot rint, rint terrin" |
Xziled
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Posted - 2005.05.28 03:47:00 -
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Limited ions = win
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2005.05.28 05:50:00 -
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errrrr megathron can outdamage a ganka actually... but even then the ganka has such a better range :D.... err about setting it up, go with lots of 425s and lots of damage mods, it does really good damage : P
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