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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.21 08:33:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Frankly I think Lego is missing out. They fail to realize that the base customers that made them what they are today are the people like us in our 20s-40s, not the little kids they are trying to pander to right now. I am sure there is a huge market for Lego's with adults. They just need to broaden their horizons a bit. As someone else so aptly stated in this thread...their loss. You are sorely mistaken if you think that a $500 Millenium Falcon is aimed at children.
The niche you are envisioning for EVE-themed sets (starships for adult collectors at a premium price point) is already firmly covered by Star Wars.
Everyone knows Star Wars and despite George Lucas' best efforts most older Lego collectors are probably feeling nostalgic about episode 4-6. Star Wars reminds them just as much of their childhood (or of what they wish their childhood had been like) as Lego does. A perfect match.
Why would you replace that established line of Lego sets with some newfangled franchise that probably less than a million people have ever been involved in?
There is no point in confusing customers by offering them competing products that fall in the same niche and an EVE-themed set would compete directly with the Star Wars-themed collector sets. There can be no serious doubt that the latter are a much better choice for Lego.
Come back in 20 years when EVE is as widely known and evokes the same feelings of nostalgia as Star Wars, Batman or Back to the Future do today and Lego might listen. I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Talos Valasar
Kingfisher Industries The Gentlemen's Club of EVE
1
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Posted - 2012.12.21 09:40:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Frankly I think Lego is missing out. They fail to realize that the base customers that made them what they are today are the people like us in our 20s-40s, not the little kids they are trying to pander to right now. I am sure there is a huge market for Lego's with adults. They just need to broaden their horizons a bit. As someone else so aptly stated in this thread...their loss. You are sorely mistaken if you think that a $500 Millenium Falcon is aimed at children. The niche you are envisioning for EVE-themed sets (starships for adult collectors at a premium price point) is already firmly covered by Star Wars. Everyone knows Star Wars and despite George Lucas' best efforts most older Lego collectors are probably feeling nostalgic about episode 4-6. Star Wars reminds them just as much of their childhood (or of what they wish their childhood had been like) as Lego does. A perfect match. Why would you replace that established line of Lego sets with some newfangled franchise that probably less than a million people have ever been involved in? There is no point in confusing customers by offering them competing products that fall in the same niche and an EVE-themed set would compete directly with the Star Wars-themed collector sets. There can be no serious doubt that the latter are a much better choice for Lego. Come back in 20 years when EVE is as widely known and evokes the same feelings of nostalgia as Star Wars, Batman or Back to the Future do today and Lego might listen. The design of the Rifter is quite similar to the Star Wars sets, so I think that was one of the factors. I saw an internal video that showed part of the CUUSOO review process. They were discussing the four models, including the Rifter. While they didn't make a decision, they mentioned being worried about the stability of the model. I am looking for the video now to see which details I've forgotten, but I obviously can't share it. |
Myyona
Ataraxia Pharmacies
16
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Posted - 2012.12.21 10:44:00 -
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They state the the Rifter model is too big and unhandy for children to play with, which I agree to when seeing the model in actual size. I also think it is very likely to break apart if a child actually tried to play with it.
While they also state that the Back to the Future brand is outdated, they still think that the car model is nice and something children will play with regardless if they have seen the movies or not. So the parents buy it for nostalgia and the children get something to play with, win-win.
The modular western town appaears also to have been a hot contender but apparently overlapping with another product line.
EDIT: Looking at the video, I am not too convinced of the "playability" of the DeLorean. The frame appears too fragile and as a parrent you would probably need to help your child reattach the doors and other parts falling off multiple times per day. CEO - Ataraxia Pharmacies Biography |
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
266
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Posted - 2012.12.21 13:42:00 -
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I have a feeling it is competing too much with their Star Wars line of spaceships... We care about a lego space ship being a Rifter or a X-wing, but kids don't... And thats why they don't want to spent ressources creating spaceships that will compete with their already existing star wars spaceships.
Pinky
PS. Was a nice Rifter model though.. |
Ronix Aideron
The Ugly Ass Kickers
19
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Posted - 2012.12.21 13:50:00 -
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I wonder if the person who designed the model would be willing to share the plans. I would thinking building it would be fun. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4199
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:04:00 -
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here I was willing to 70$ USD for a copy....
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Princess Gankskank
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:13:00 -
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Use Eggos.....the maple syrup is just gravy. |
Texty
State War Academy Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:31:00 -
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That DeLorean thing is simply ugly. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:35:00 -
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Texty wrote:That DeLorean thing is simply ugly. Yea I thought the same.
Oh well, their loss.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1504
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Posted - 2012.12.25 08:42:00 -
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Rifter was too challenging, so they picked something easier instead. This does not surprise me at all. It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's. |
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
423
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Posted - 2012.12.27 21:45:00 -
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Details here: http://legocuusoo.posterous.com/
Can't figure out a way to place a bounty on Lego inc yet. Requesting backup from CCP.
Merged with the existing thread. - ISD Suvetar |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
986
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Posted - 2012.12.27 21:48:00 -
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Do you have a little boy that needs a new toy?? Fly Minmatar Air --- "Trust in the Rust!" |
Celestra Doxaila
MinTek Heavy Industries
36
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Posted - 2012.12.27 21:48:00 -
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LEGO nerfed the Rifter. |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.12.27 22:09:00 -
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This made me sad too :( ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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fukier
RISE of LEGION
417
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Posted - 2012.12.27 22:13:00 -
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The thing is we are internet nerds... who cares if it has too many parts... its not like any of us will actually open the damn box... it will sit on my shelf and collect dust... just like the rest of my toys... they must remaind in mint condition till the end of times! At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
leviticus ander
THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance
219
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:48:00 -
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fukier wrote:The thing is we are internet nerds... who cares if it has too many parts... its not like any of us will actually open the damn box... it will sit on my shelf and collect dust... just like the rest of my toys... they must remaind in mint condition till the end of times! I don't think you get how lego works, you need to open the box to assemble it. otherwise it would be like having one of those pour grids of car/plane/tank parts hung up on your wall and acting proud of it. |
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
150
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:53:00 -
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Pity about that.
Oh well, at least this led to me findign out there's a SCII line coming from megabloks. Damn, I might need to buy a few of these... >.< |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2501
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Posted - 2013.01.12 02:22:00 -
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Lego Curiosity would make me feel much better.
They should publish the Rifter parts list and assembly instructions. die-hard fans would order what they needed and build it without the kit. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2501
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Posted - 2013.01.12 02:26:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Rifter was too challenging, so they picked something easier instead. This does not surprise me at all. Given the complexity of some of their Star Wars kits ($400 Executor, anyone?) I don't think it was that it was challenging.
Everyone knows what Back to the Future is. Try putting a Rifter on the shelves of Wal-Mart and see how that sells.
I'm just disappointed that the Delorean looks like a pile of crap. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2013.01.12 02:30:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I'm just disappointed that the Delorean looks like a pile of crap.
Yeah, pretty much.
It's one thing to lose. It's quite another to lose to a badfit LEGO model.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2504
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Posted - 2013.01.12 02:34:00 -
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Also, seriously...some of you obviously don't have kids.
My kindergartner has brand preference and can repair his Lego toys by himself. My eight-year-old's two favorite toys are:
http://starwars.lego.com/en-us/m/products/details/9493.aspx
and
http://starwars.lego.com/en-us/m/products/details/9492.aspx
He put them together himself, and when necessary tears them down and rebuilds them himself. He'll be getting his first Mindstorm kit when he's 9. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
leviticus ander
THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance
220
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Posted - 2013.01.12 03:51:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: He put them together himself, and when necessary tears them down and rebuilds them himself. He'll be getting his first Mindstorm kit when he's 9.
those things are awesome. I built one that could navigate and map out any area as long as it had the battery power to do so. it would turn when it ran into obstacles, it would prevent itself from falling down stairs, and could climb over anything that would pass under the bump sensors. |
floopoptimize
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.12 19:22:00 -
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The Delorean looks pretty nice, but I don't know about the smooth surfaces on the top and sides. How the hell are kids supposed to add extra wings and laser guns and lego man mounting points without any free lego stubs poking out |
Kentt Em'asep
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
70
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Posted - 2013.01.14 12:02:00 -
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Delorean looks too blocky and big :(
Gah... too bad. I would have bought the Rifter. My Reaper most likely does not have a chance then if they complained how flimsy the Rifter was. When I own my Reaper made out in real Legos I'll possibly end up making the instructions public.
It was a good run though. ~"That's right. Today, tomorrow, the next day, and the day after that, and the day after that...from here on until forever, every time you look at my avatar - you'll see this scowl." ~"Forever?" ~"Yes - forever. It's what I do." |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Intrepid Crossing
168
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Posted - 2013.01.14 16:25:00 -
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IT WAS RIGGED!!!!
just like our alliance tourneys :-P |
Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
217
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:16:00 -
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Quick to Mega Blocks! They made Halo why not EVE! "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves." |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
123
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Posted - 2013.01.14 19:38:00 -
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Honestly, it looks better in EVE. Inside mining barge, true story |
Sir Substance
I N E X T R E M I S Fidelas Constans
530
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:13:00 -
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Ayumi Nevinyrall wrote:SUESUESUESUESUE....
Or go to a 3rd party manufacturer...
to megablocks! ...:( Ishtar Starfire: As a pure caldari pilot i feel that with the deployment of the new tier 3 battlecruisers you have given an unfair advantage to everyone except caldari pilots. an example would be like giving a fat kid a whole cake while the skinny kid has to watch and get nothing.
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Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2013.01.15 02:47:00 -
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No Megablocks, Megablocks are crap. |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
284
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Posted - 2013.01.15 06:24:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Frankly I think Lego is missing out. They fail to realize that the base customers that made them what they are today are the people like us in our 20s-40s, not the little kids they are trying to pander to right now. I am sure there is a huge market for Lego's with adults. They just need to broaden their horizons a bit. As someone else so aptly stated in this thread...their loss. You are sorely mistaken if you think that a $500 Millenium Falcon is aimed at children. The niche you are envisioning for EVE-themed sets (starships for adult collectors at a premium price point) is already firmly covered by Star Wars. Everyone knows Star Wars and despite George Lucas' best efforts most older Lego collectors are probably feeling nostalgic about episode 4-6. Star Wars reminds them just as much of their childhood (or of what they wish their childhood had been like) as Lego does. A perfect match. Why would you replace that established line of Lego sets with some newfangled franchise that probably less than a million people have ever been involved in? There is no point in confusing customers by offering them competing products that fall in the same niche and an EVE-themed set would compete directly with the Star Wars-themed collector sets. There can be no serious doubt that the latter are a much better choice for Lego. Come back in 20 years when EVE is as widely known and evokes the same feelings of nostalgia as Star Wars, Batman or Back to the Future do today and Lego might listen. Only induces nostalgia if its dead, no, in 20 years eve will be the hippest, most mainstream game ever, and it will have NO HIGH/LOW, 50k WH systems, and the goons will have disbanded from EvE in favor of MLP Online. |
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