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Jamie Bauer
Choke-Hold
4
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:36:00 -
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I'm currently running 'Enemies Abound, 3 of 5' level 4.
I locking, shooting and popping the enemy (with missiles and drones) and not one enemy ship has locked me or fought back, in any of the rooms.
Assume this is a bug and isn't an intentional change to recompense for my losing hundreds of drones since Retribution came out.
Anyone else seeing this with other missions? |
Dave stark
841
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:37:00 -
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aand you're complaining because?
Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
236
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:38:00 -
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You sure they aren't just missing your drones?
http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm
Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |
Jamie Bauer
Choke-Hold
4
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:40:00 -
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I'm not complaining - though it's a bit on the boring side.
They are not shooting, locking, missing or anything. Just flying around, completely ignoring my presence. |
Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
236
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:44:00 -
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Small drones and you took out the frigates first, I might guess?
http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm
Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
284
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:45:00 -
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the AI has reached a level of intelligence at which it has a deep understanding of the absurdity of violence
i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling. |
Jamie Bauer
Choke-Hold
5
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:46:00 -
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Nope. Sentries and Ogre II's - and I just dived in ... I'm reckless like that |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2878
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:47:00 -
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Secret Christmas present. 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
100
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:01:00 -
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Maybe they've decided that violence solves nothing...or finally running out of ammo. |
Metal Icarus
Legion Of Idiots
legion of extraordinary Idi0ts
408
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:04:00 -
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FIT FOR MAX DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPS |
Jamie Bauer
Choke-Hold
5
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:12:00 -
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Sentry Guns are working, but no other AI is bothered to shoot back. Maybe they are all resigned to the fact that it's 12/12/2012 tmrw, so it matters not anyway. |
Gillia Winddancer
Shiny Noble Crown Services
158
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:13:00 -
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Emo AI. That sure is something new alright. |
Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
149
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:29:00 -
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I can confirm this, me and a friend just ran enemies abound the last part and npcs became idiotic and didn't shoot back, it was like tags raining from the sky. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
517
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:53:00 -
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Read the new short feedback thread regarding the AI tweak that was put out about a week ago.
Note the highly detailed test feedback given by a couple people.
Note the complete, and I do mean complete, LACK of acknowledgement of any issues by the dev's RE: the AI tweaks.
Then note the dev comments AFTER the new tweak was delivered onto TQ.
Note that they have now gone on vacation, and no is tending the store for a while.
This is not speculation, nor a rant. Look at the chronology yourselves.
Then ask again, are you are surprised that the AI is broken?
CCP can SAY whatever they like about mission income, but their ACTIONS truly state what they feel about high sec income. |
Nytak
Ivar School of Galactic Brotherhood
5
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:07:00 -
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I haven't seen this myself, but a corp-mate experienced the same thing yesterday on a mission. Ran through the whole thing like a nin-JA! |
Perihelion Olenard
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:09:00 -
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I have seen this. After pulling my drones back inside my dominix after a few mission rats shot at them they stopped shooting me as well. They still had me locked, but every single mission rat quit shooting me. I had no drones out.
I wear my sunglasses at night. |
Opal Kina
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:16:00 -
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Hi. Confirming this - just done a few missions where nobody shot back. Now doing an L3 with a Caracal, sitting in space slowly picking off battlecruisers...a little on the dull side! |
ACE McFACE
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
940
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:49:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Read the new short feedback thread regarding the AI tweak that was put out about a week ago.
Note the highly detailed test feedback given by a couple people.
Note the complete, and I do mean complete, LACK of acknowledgement of any issues by the dev's RE: the AI tweaks.
Then note the dev comments AFTER the new tweak was delivered onto TQ.
Note that they have now gone on vacation, and no is tending the store for a while.
This is not speculation, nor a rant. Look at the chronology yourselves.
Then ask again, are you are surprised that the AI is broken?
CCP can SAY whatever they like about mission income, but their ACTIONS truly state what they feel about high sec income.
Because this is you, im assuming you are saying that CCP want no one to earn any money in high-sec (very unlikely), but I fail to see how enemies not shooting back proves your point. All it does is make it easier and more boring.
"No one drove in New York, there was too much traffic." |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
615
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:22:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Read the new short feedback thread regarding the AI tweak that was put out about a week ago.
Note the highly detailed test feedback given by a couple people.
Note the complete, and I do mean complete, LACK of acknowledgement of any issues by the dev's RE: the AI tweaks.
Then note the dev comments AFTER the new tweak was delivered onto TQ.
Note that they have now gone on vacation, and no is tending the store for a while.
This is not speculation, nor a rant. Look at the chronology yourselves.
Then ask again, are you are surprised that the AI is broken?
CCP can SAY whatever they like about mission income, but their ACTIONS truly state what they feel about high sec income. Because this is you, im assuming you are saying that CCP want no one to earn any money in high-sec (very unlikely), but I fail to see how enemies not shooting back proves your point. All it does is make it easier and more boring.
Well, it is a bit of a nerf if you have to slowboat 90KM because you can't get any of the npcs to aggro. Love those missions where the last guy drops the item, and he won't leave his safe spot to come play.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
173
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:22:00 -
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Nerf AFK NPC's! |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
517
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:37:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Read the new short feedback thread regarding the AI tweak that was put out about a week ago.
Note the highly detailed test feedback given by a couple people.
Note the complete, and I do mean complete, LACK of acknowledgement of any issues by the dev's RE: the AI tweaks.
Then note the dev comments AFTER the new tweak was delivered onto TQ.
Note that they have now gone on vacation, and no is tending the store for a while.
This is not speculation, nor a rant. Look at the chronology yourselves.
Then ask again, are you are surprised that the AI is broken?
CCP can SAY whatever they like about mission income, but their ACTIONS truly state what they feel about high sec income. Because this is you, im assuming you are saying that CCP want no one to earn any money in high-sec (very unlikely), but I fail to see how enemies not shooting back proves your point. All it does is make it easier and more boring.
Actually, this screwup likely helps mission runners.
But the fact that something this borked gets jammed onto TQ, with the devs responsible for it now on vacation, is just an indication of how seriously CCP treats the concerns of mission runners.
2-4 weeks from now, once people are back from vacation, CCP will get around to altering the AI for the 3rd time.
Unless of course, the null sec camps starts screaming about easy high sec money, at which point this will get immediate dev attention. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
28
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:00:00 -
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I just finished worlds collide in an ibis! |
Rexorol
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
8
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:37:00 -
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"They either don't see us... or don't see us as a threat."
Commander Riker's words while exploring a Borg cube.
They're just going to come after you when you least expect it. Undock cautiously, NPC's never forgive or forget. |
galenwade
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.12.21 01:27:00 -
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Rexorol wrote:"They either don't see us... or don't see us as a threat."
Commander Riker's words while exploring a Borg cube.
Then Trillions of people where slaughtered ..... Woot the AI is going to wipe us out |
Atticus Lowa
Lowa Corp Industries and Security
15
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Posted - 2012.12.21 01:32:00 -
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So this is CCP's Solution to the AI aggroing all at once... not aggroing at all! |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1444
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Posted - 2012.12.21 01:34:00 -
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Good evening.
We know that this issue is currently occurring and it's being looked at. If you run across this while doing any sort of PVE, we recommend that you file a detailed bug report. The more information you can give us, the better and faster we can resolve this issue. Thank you very much.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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stoicfaux
1858
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Posted - 2012.12.21 02:01:00 -
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Atticus Lowa wrote:So this is CCP's Solution to the AI aggroing all at once... not aggroing at all!
Maybe there's so much aggro on-grid at once that we're experiencing aggro lag? Does CCP need to introduce Aggro Dilation?
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stoicfaux
1858
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Posted - 2012.12.21 02:03:00 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Good evening. We know that this issue is currently occurring and it's being looked at. If you run across this while doing any sort of PVE, we recommend that you file a detailed bug report. The more information you can give us, the better and faster we can resolve this issue. Thank you very much.
You know, it would be easier to just call it a feature and make a quick addendum to the patch notes.
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Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
205
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Posted - 2012.12.21 02:07:00 -
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Maybe they just looked up their win/loss record against capsuleers and realized it's 556,482,453,684 to 7 and figured it didn't even make sense to fight back. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1975
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Posted - 2012.12.21 02:19:00 -
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It's possible the, like incursions leading players to cooperate, missions are starting to mirror the template of other activities in the games.
Targets that don't shoot back is indication of the possibility that the mission is trying to teach you how to be the jamming boat of a typical gate camp.
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