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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1510
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:06:00 -
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What gives? I thought they were random. -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |

Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:09:00 -
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Maybe they are random and you randomly got two sets of identical gifts? Just trade the second set for the stuff you don't have, it's all roughly the same value anyway. |

Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
237
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:23:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:What gives? I thought they were random.
Pseudo random, like everything else. |

Dave stark
845
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:26:00 -
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i love how people think random events can't happen more than once in a row. if they couldn't they wouldn't be random. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |

PhatController
Abraxsys Get Off My Lawn
12
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:27:00 -
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There maybe a few dozen "Sets" of gifts and you randomly get a set. |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1510
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:29:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:i love how people think random events can't happen more than once in a row. if they couldn't they wouldn't be random. It makes more sense if you look at it in terms of sets, but at first I thought it was a set of randomly chosen items, not a randomly chosen set of pre-picked items. Getting two of the exact same set in the former scheme is rather unlikely. -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10881
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:31:00 -
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I have all the collection, except that missing 27th card. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

ISVRaDa
Iberians Iberians.
9
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:31:00 -
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Not for me. Immortality is only a word. All that exists can die. Every living thing has a weapon against which it has no defense. Time. Disease. Iron. Guilt.
-+ What can change the nature of a man ? |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
220
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:32:00 -
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Both my accounts got the same stuff also.
Maybe lightening does strike twice.
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1510
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:33:00 -
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Anyway I'm not mad or anything, I just thought it was curious. -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
288
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:33:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:What gives? I thought they were random. the same is here.
maybe this set differs for real pilots? and CCP knows who is who?  |

Dave stark
845
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:33:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Dave stark wrote:i love how people think random events can't happen more than once in a row. if they couldn't they wouldn't be random. It makes more sense if you look at it in terms of sets, but at first I thought it was a set of randomly chosen items, not a randomly chosen set of pre-picked items. Getting two of the exact same set in the former scheme is rather unlikely.
it doesn't matter how likely it is; it can happen. yet you make a post about it as if it's some kind of impossibility that has somehow happened? Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10881
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:34:00 -
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On a side note, I recall a story regarding the random shuffle on iPods having to be scripted to not be random. It seems true random is not random enough.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Dave stark
845
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:37:00 -
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Mag's wrote:On a side note, I recall a story regarding the random shuffle on iPods having to be scripted to not be random. It seems true random is not random enough. computer's can't do true random. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |

Fergus Runkle
Truth and Reconciliation Council
5
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:42:00 -
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Same here, the identical gift set on two accounts.
I saw this in a channel earlier, in relation to CCP's random number generator 
http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2001-10-25/ |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10881
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:47:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Mag's wrote:On a side note, I recall a story regarding the random shuffle on iPods having to be scripted to not be random. It seems true random is not random enough. computer's can't do true random. OK I was wrong in using the term true. Pseudo would have been better. My point was even when we get a good random generator, the random part needs to be throttled back, to not be so random.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Pyre leFay
The Scope Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:54:00 -
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Could be as simple as whatever day your started your account is what particular set you got. |

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
248
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:01:00 -
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Pyre leFay wrote:Could be as simple as whatever day your started your account is what particular set you got.
I didn't see a pattern based on who was skill training, the main or who took the gifts. I got the Amarr pack on a Matar alt for a Gallente main. The Minmatar pack on a Caldari main and so on. I found many of the commodities to be tied to their frigate but as stated, it's all good. Based on the stack of festival launchers I have, nothing they offered is out of reach.
Thanks CCP R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Sara Mars
The Scope Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:02:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:What gives? I thought they were random.
Fap fap fap, if more people spent less time crying on the forums about stupid stuff this game would be better.... |

Gotch Urarse
21
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:09:00 -
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4 accounts, for dirty Amarr ships.... go figure |
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
971
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:18:00 -
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They're distributed based on psychological profiles CCP have been making about all of us. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |

Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
133
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:27:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I have all the collection, except that missing 27th card.  Edit: I can now see my post didn't help at all and I apologize. 
9/10
Beautifully done. |

Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
381
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:28:00 -
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Gotch Urarse wrote:4 accounts, for dirty Amarr ships.... go figure
Sarum Magnate 20/ 31 Vherokior Probe 18/ 27 Sukuuvestaa Heron 32/ 45 Inner Zone shipping Imicus 22/ 30
Current Jita Buy/ sells.
It's too early to tell anything accurate but out of the gate, Heron seems to be shorting. Everything else is coming out in the same numbers. The sell bar seems longer with Imicus but they are the only ones with a unique high slot configuration. Dunno if that's helping them or hurting them. |

Rain6637
Team Evil
28
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Posted - 2012.12.20 23:29:00 -
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chribba is rolling dice as fast as he can, there are bound to be repeats! be understanding |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1511
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:52:00 -
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Sara Mars wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:What gives? I thought they were random. Fap fap fap, if more people spent less time crying on the forums about stupid stuff this game would be better.... Do you need a dictionary? -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |

galenwade
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.12.21 01:16:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:They're distributed based on psychological profiles CCP have been making about all of us.
that explains the blood soaked knife and teddy bear i got in my Gift pack ..
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E.
803
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Posted - 2012.12.21 03:31:00 -
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You do know that in a random event the outcome of the first event has no relation to the outcome of future ones right? Things are only impossible until they are not. |

Goran Konjich
Shiva Furnace
19
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Posted - 2012.12.21 08:14:00 -
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4 accounts -> 4 races -> 4 different sets (all 4 ships) .... i thought this was intentional <> |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
170
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Posted - 2012.12.21 08:46:00 -
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Come on people, realy you believe you are chosen one ? and you recive random stuf on every account? here a lot subscribers, its technicaly impossible to get full unique set of stuf per every account, in fact we got 250.000-350.000 subscribers, if you recive same gift like your main account its nothing wrong with this.
Some people got difirent sets on every account but some got items that reperat, nothing wrong with this. Its because total amount of accounts. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Amber Coldheart
State War Academy Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.12.21 10:14:00 -
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Gotch Urarse wrote:4 accounts, for dirty Amarr ships.... go figure Also 4 accounts, 3 Herons and a Magnate.
Goran Konjich wrote:4 accounts -> 4 races -> 4 different sets (all 4 ships) .... i thought this was intentional I wish, hehe 
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1532
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Posted - 2012.12.21 12:23:00 -
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300,000+ accounts...
Undoubtedly < 100 different gifts sets....
Yeah, there might be one or two repeats....
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

LordSpock
Vherokior Death Squad
9
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Posted - 2012.12.21 12:27:00 -
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4 accounts,
1 imicus, 1 probe, 2 heron. No magnate :(
2 CA1, 1 CA2 and one without an implant |

Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
910
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Posted - 2012.12.21 12:29:00 -
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All I got was Carbon, the hint from CCP was received. |

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
80
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Posted - 2012.12.21 12:49:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Mag's wrote:On a side note, I recall a story regarding the random shuffle on iPods having to be scripted to not be random. It seems true random is not random enough. computer's can't do true random.
Yes they can, just not with the standard math libraries. There's also special hardware solutions. But, I think we're going a bit off topic here.. Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |

Skawl
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2012.12.21 13:19:00 -
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I have 3 accounts and got a different set on each :D |

Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
96
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Posted - 2012.12.21 16:36:00 -
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I think it's sets too, rather than a random populated list. As to the previous poster who speculated that it might be account creation date, I can say it isn't :) I have 3 current accounts. My main got 1 set with a vherokior probe. The other 2 (one is an account from early 2006, the other is only about three months old) got the exact same sarum set, down to the "random" cards.
So yeah, OP, I'd say random "sets" rather than random "items". The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll |
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