The simplest solution for anyone who dislikes any AFK activity would be to have an auto-logoff function after a long time - like an hour, two hours, or even three hours.

After X hours of no activity the game logs you out.

But, is this really a problem? I've had AFK cloakies doing their AFK thing in 0.0 space with me before and it really wasn't a problem.... so.. shrug. Doesn't matter to me.

Solve the problem with an AFK indicator in the local.

Little red dot appears next to the name.


fixed. Red dot dissappears, the guy put in a command or something.

But let's be honest here, you *ARE* one of the better posters here at complete obfuscation and talking around the actual topic, ya know.

nerf cloaks? I don't understand why people continue to not bother reading my first post! why are so many people hell bend on misdirecting this thread?

Irrelevant the issue is players going AFK! Why does this simple concept escape so many people?

the whole point is to eliminate afk cloakers! not the mechanics behind them! you can still use cloaks as they were intended and more! just not while being AFK for a long period of time!

I don't know why this is such a hard concept for many to understand?

it's irrenlavent because my argument inst about reds making locals paranoid its about addressing being AFK

You and a lot of others seem to be missing the point entirely! its not about the old argument of not being able to mine or rat because a red is in local! its about being able to affect the game while you are not even behind your keyboard.

why are you logging into eve just to remain afk?

My only issue with cloaks is the absolute lack of a counter. Every other form of defence/ECM has a counter that at least reduces the effectiveness of the tactic.

Why not have a, very expensive/hard to build/skill intensive, probe or module that lets you scan down a cloaked ship. If you make the cloaked ship have a very small sig it would be challenging to get a warp in quickly which means the alert cloaker would have time to warp to a new safe or log off. Once on grid the hunters would need to get close enough to actually decloak the cloaker so it would still be challenging for the hunters while encouraging active gameplay by both sides which seems to me to be what we all should want.

AFK cloaking the problem that isn't a problem while we're heading for page 9!

3 simple things. Just 3


1 - let me hunt them, give me probes or special cov ops ship with special probes....would love to hunt em

2 - make cloak consume fuel not gazillion gallons, but say 1hr or 2hr worth of ozone or something like that

3 - cycle the cloak....don't let it run forever - force a reactivation.

My personal preference is to have new tools to hunt cloakies ... But fuel would also provide reasonable limits on them.

~R~

I have said numerous times already your and others attempt to redirect the thread is getting beyond the joke now!

I'm not avoiding your line of questions! I'm only allowed certain quotes per day on these threads, please don't make the mistake of believing you're important enough to always warrant answers!

and what mechanic are they using again? well the fact their allowed to remain AFK while cloaked!

its about being able to affect the game while you are not even behind your keyboard.

its about being able to affect the game while you are not even behind your keyboard.

No troll.

I do genuinely believe prolonged cloaking to be a problem, I absolutely believe it to be a risk-averse activity and you can be sure I think it breaks the risk vs reward paradigm. If you search older forums posts of mine you will see this is generally my stance.

As with any discussion one will try to persuade the other of one thing or another, I was merely trying to coax you to agree. To me it felt like you wanted to agree, you seemed almost there with the presentation of a counter.

I think many of the folks that join in the 'cloaky' discussion seem hesitant about admitting its risk-free nature, folks seem to almost convulse at the idea that there is much to be gained from this activity, its self-evident that there is gain else folks just wouldn't undertake the activity, this is Eve, nobody does anything for nothing.

I hope those that are reading this thread can see that a possible cloaker is not totally against the idea of a counter, to me thats progress. These discussions do need more input from people that actually do cloaky stuff, but it also needs for those involved to be objective, and by objective, I mean not denying the value of prolonged cloaking.

Fly safe. o7