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Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers
Moar Tears
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:50:00 -
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As an Arch Lieutenant for the Amarr Militia I have flown in many fleets against the Matari over the past few months. Deep hatred has slowly turned into begrudging respect and as a sign of improved diplomatic attitude on our side we decided to bring a Bestower filled with over 2000 Matari slaves to Ushra Khan's stronghold in Isbrabata for them to be delivered to freedom in a show of Christmas goodwill. The number was originally intended to be an even 2000, however, due to our unwillingness to seperate familes the finally tally ended up 2,184.
The Bestower and our Amarrian escort fleet landed on their Pator Tech School home station at roughly 20:30, however we were denied docking access. We attempted to establish communications via local channel to request docking rights and were informed that Foxstar Damaskeenus that Scotty their docking manager was away for the holidays. Lowhyres then informed us that if our intentions were genuine to leave the slaves outside the station, however, cramming slaves into jetcans and subjecting them to the harshness of space is not how the Empire treats anyone, slaves or not. Plus, we wanted to personally see the slaves off and ensure that they would truly be freed and not indentured into a life of military service and killing, an atrocious lifestyle I one day hope will come to an end for all of us.
As we sat on the undock, the Matari slowly undocked more and more combat ships. We remained vigilant, but merely hoped it was active pilots undocking in a show of support. It turns out our naivete was not rewarded and our glorious Amarrian escort fleet was fired on despite our announcement of peaceful intent. Many of our brave pilots ships were destroyed in the ensuing chaos with von Khan of PIE the first to be downed in his Inquisitor carrying nothing more than antibiotics. Not wanting the slaves to die before they had a chance to be freed, brave pilot James Mysu attempted to warp his transport out, however, Ushra Khan pilot, Lowhyres had already begun his onslaught on the peaceful transport. Hearing on comms that the cargo area had hull breaches forming with many of the families being sucked into the void of space and the rest slowly dying of asphyxia, we finished off the hauler lest the slaves suffer any more than they had to.
I fully denounce these clear terrorist actions. Apparently, Ushra Khan had taking lessons from CVA, straying from their founding goals and practicing advanced methods of teachery and deception. They claim to come for their people, so we attempted to bring them their people only to have them murder their people.
I awknowledge that one deed does not respresent the actions of an entire peoples, but this is truly a day that will be remembered in infamy by both sides.
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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:04:00 -
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For shame.
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith
or the devils gonna claim your soul
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CAAN0N
Project Nemesis
Touch Fiberoptic
18
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:13:00 -
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer more deserving hard working bunch of individuals. |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
97
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:45:00 -
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On behalf of the Matari, I would like to formally declare that these are all Lies! It is an outrage!
The Matari group delivering necessary Christmas supplies to Egghelende were fired upon unprovoked!
Luckily we managed to jettison our essential supplies prior to the unwanted destruction visited upon my ship by an Amarrian Loki! This was just another massacre initiated by the Amarr in an attempt to create negative publicity. |
Kraven Fawkes
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:54:00 -
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Miss Feldman, I have no dog in this fight, but I will say that your entire story stinks. You allege that you flew a transport, laden with slaves, into a war zone with the destination of a star base you knew you could not dock at controlled by your enemies to deliver said slaves to freedom. You say you did this in the spirit of goodwill, but your story doesn't pass the smell test, it does however smell of a setup. The Minmatar in question gave you an opportunity to deliver your "gift" and leave with your asses in tact, but this wasn't what you wanted to actually do.
Had your intentions been genuine, you would have taken the chance to drop the cargo, and get while the getting was good, or perhaps arranged a meeting at a neutral location to make the transaction. Instead you took a transport, a tasty target in any low sec system, and took it through a war zone, knowing that no matter what you would be attacked, sure as a wounded Kravi Seal will attract a Fraxian Shark, and waited for the trap to be sprung. You wanted a propaganda bit to come rushing here and crying "the minmatar are evil, see what they did when we were trying to be nice?".
You have failed Ma'am, whats more it looks like your own "friendlies" did more damage then the "enemy" did to the Bestower. |
Salena Ashera
14
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:55:00 -
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I wont question the validity of your story, but...
There is a reason neutral parties exist, Pinky. That your entire alliance failed to point this out and hire someone to deliver them for you is.. Well it speaks volumes of the schools you all were educated in.
Salena Ashera, Shandian Lu clan Mystic, private contractor with Stillwater |
Kentt Em'asep
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
37
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:57:00 -
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Hmm... did you call anyone before you made a trip into enemy territory? Because camping outside of a enemy headquarters might gain some unwanted hostilaty. Along with the name you pilots fly under. Plus... I question the loyalties of your pilots, as two seemed to have switched sides during your dealings.
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~"Forever?"
~"Yes - forever. It's what I do." |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers
Moar Tears
422
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:10:00 -
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Kraven Fawkes wrote:Miss Feldman, I have no dog in this fight, but I will say that your entire story stinks. You allege that you flew a transport, laden with slaves, into a war zone with the destination of a star base you knew you could not dock at controlled by your enemies to deliver said slaves to freedom. You say you did this in the spirit of goodwill, but your story doesn't pass the smell test, it does however smell of a setup. The Minmatar in question gave you an opportunity to deliver your "gift" and leave with your asses in tact, but this wasn't what you wanted to actually do.
Had your intentions been genuine, you would have taken the chance to drop the cargo, and get while the getting was good, or perhaps arranged a meeting at a neutral location to make the transaction. Instead you took a transport, a tasty target in any low sec system, and took it through a war zone, knowing that no matter what you would be attacked, sure as a wounded Kravi Seal will attract a Fraxian Shark, and waited for the trap to be sprung. You wanted a propaganda bit to come rushing here and crying "the minmatar are evil, see what they did when we were trying to be nice?".
You have failed Ma'am, whats more it looks like your own "friendlies" did more damage then the "enemy" did to the Bestower.
Over 2000 souls perished today. The fact you would even mention propaganda and attempt to turn this into a political affair is reprehensible. Even the pilots involved realized the err of their ways and delivered gifts of yuletide cheer to our home station following the calamity. Sadly, even such amends cannot bring back the dead.
Salena Ashera wrote:I wont question the validity of your story, but...
There is a reason neutral parties exist, Pinky. That your entire alliance failed to point this out and hire someone to deliver them for you is.. Well it speaks volumes of the schools you all were educated in.
We are warriors, not bureaucrats. In fact, it is not historically uncommon, even in active warzones for both sides celebrating holidays to take vacationis, albeit short, from hostilities. While in retrospect, I now realize such channels should be taken, what many forget is that factional warfare is not the environment many politicians and civilians are accustomed to and without fighting and seeing our warzone firsthand I denounce anyone seeking to pass judgement on what takes place. What many people fail to realize is such actions have been attempted before through "proper" channels and the conclusion was that the slaves would die before the politicians could agree to mutually agreeable terms.
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Kraven Fawkes
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:15:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote: Over 2000 souls perished today. The fact you would even mention propaganda and attempt to turn this into a political affair is reprehensible. Even the pilots involved realized the err of their ways and delivered gifts of yuletide cheer to our home station following the calamity. Sadly, even such amends cannot bring back the dead.
You have already failed in your **** poor attempt to frame the Minmatar, as most things fail with your group. Please for the love of your God, know that you were beaten by your own stupidity and stop posting crap propaganda. Perhaps in the future when you want to try this again, do not link a kill mail that proves you are not only bad at fleet engagments, but also at creating lies and subterfuge, leave that to the pro's at Guiding Hand Social Club.
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Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers
Moar Tears
422
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:18:00 -
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Kraven Fawkes wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote: Over 2000 souls perished today. The fact you would even mention propaganda and attempt to turn this into a political affair is reprehensible. Even the pilots involved realized the err of their ways and delivered gifts of yuletide cheer to our home station following the calamity. Sadly, even such amends cannot bring back the dead. You have already failed in your **** poor attempt to frame the Minmatar, as most things fail with your group. Please for the love of your God, know that you were beaten by your own stupidity and stop posting crap propaganda. Perhaps in the future when you want to try this again, do not link a kill mail that proves you are not only bad at fleet engagments, but also at creating lies and subterfuge, leave that to the pro's at Guiding Hand Social Club.
Right, I forgot that the only acceptable archetype for the Amarr in the IGS is Lord Vaari. While attempting to rustle my jimmies, you seem to have forgotten the cardinal rule of not allowing your own jimmies to be rustled.
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Kraven Fawkes
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:23:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:
Right, I forgot that the only acceptable archetype for the Amarr in the IGS is Lord Vaari. While attempting to rustle my jimmies, you seem to have forgotten the cardinal rule of not allowing your own jimmies to be rustled.
First, Lord Vaari is an IGS legend and much loved. He is like the IGS equivalent of one old and senile grandfather that runs around family get together s flashing and talking about how back in his day they used to wear radish's on their belts because it was the trend back then.
Second, what is this about a desire to rustle my jimmy? |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2012.12.25 07:12:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:We decided to bring a Bestower filled with over 2000 Matari slaves to Ushra Khan's stronghold
And that was a huge mistake.
They are tribals, savages, primitives, why did you think they would accept it? Her Majesty herself freed so many slaves, did it prevent the war? Did it pacified raging savages?..
Despite what they claim, they just don't care about their own people. All they care about are twisted ideals, implanted by their gallentean overlords into their primitive brains.
Leave diplomacy to those, who can comprehend. When dealing with minmatars or gallentes, diplomacy is simple useless: they either doesn't want or just can't understand our sides. The only way to make them listen to you, is back your words with firepower. Bring them not gifts, but death.
Consider next time bringing in a bestower filled with explosives, to shake out their sorry a****s from that station. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
84
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Posted - 2012.12.25 09:55:00 -
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This massacre took place last year? It's YC 114 this year - for the next few weeks, of course. |
Lyn Farel
Kitzless
357
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Posted - 2012.12.25 11:34:00 -
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As benevolent the intentions might have been, your operation could have benefited from a little more planning, as explained by others above. The way it was done sounds rather foolish to me.
It is easy to jump into a pool unprepared and lose an arm to a shark, and then blaming it for what happened. You seem as guilty as the people that shot down the transports to me, or you would have brought secure blockade runners, contacted neutral parties, or just made the transfer in a more secure place like high security space. Alternative solutions are legion.
Or maybe are you still quite novice in that kind of matters ? Ignorance often kills.
Sidenote : "I whip my slaves back and forth" alliance ? |
Elisa Endeavour
Endeavour Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2012.12.25 12:21:00 -
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Better Communications should have made this act one to remember.
It's a shame |
Salena Ashera
15
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Posted - 2012.12.25 13:14:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:
We are warriors, not bureaucrats. In fact, it is not historically uncommon, even in active war-zones for both sides celebrating holidays to take vacations, albeit short, from hostilities. While in retrospect, I now realize such channels should be taken, what many forget is that factional warfare is not the environment many politicians and civilians are accustomed to and without fighting and seeing our war-zone firsthand I denounce anyone seeking to pass judgement on what takes place. What many people fail to realize is such actions have been attempted before through "proper" channels and the conclusion was that the slaves would die before the politicians could agree to mutually agreeable terms.
I am both a Luminaire General and Valklear General. I've fought for 2 consecutive years in the Militias, I know the show. If you failed to reach an agreement in proper channels, You have totally failed as a soldier tasked with protecting these people, due to your own in-competencies, don't blame the other militia.
You could have sent them to live long and happy lives for the rest of their lives for about 200 million ISK, a penitence for most capsuleers. Instead you created a situation that walked and talked like a trap and try to blame your opponents for responding to the threat of said trap.
If you didn't want to spend the ISK why not look for a corporation in the Fed/State/republic that would hire them and house them? There are quite a few, Ishukone for example would have gladly taken them in.
Over two thousand citizens of the Amarr Empire (by will or not) died in your failure to protect them or flee for their sake. Your fleets incompetence as soldiers and tacticians killed them. End of story.
Salena Ashera, Shandian Lu clan Mystic, private contractor with Stillwater |
Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
34
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Posted - 2012.12.25 16:23:00 -
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Why didn't you go through Electus Matari? You want to show goodwill and free some slaves? Take the poor souls to a neutral station you know for certain you can dock at. Contact Electus Matari. Transfer the people into their care. Done deal! No hassle!
Amarrian hubris at its finest here. "Well our superior morals will protect us from the fact we didn't contact the right people, choose the right drop-off point, or even bother to fit the Bestower with warp core stabilizers like any reasonable lowsec hauler pilot would. Hurrrr." You lot did NOTHING to absolutely ensure anyone's safety. |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers
Moar Tears
423
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Posted - 2012.12.25 18:07:00 -
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Streya Jormagdnir wrote:Why didn't you go through Electus Matari? You want to show goodwill and free some slaves? Take the poor souls to a neutral station you know for certain you can dock at. Contact Electus Matari. Transfer the people into their care. Done deal! No hassle!
Amarrian hubris at its finest here. "Well our superior morals will protect us from the fact we didn't contact the right people, choose the right drop-off point, or even bother to fit the Bestower with warp core stabilizers like any reasonable lowsec hauler pilot would. Hurrrr." You lot did NOTHING to absolutely ensure anyone's safety.
Typical Matari attitude. Complain about a situation, and then when people seek to give assistance complain they're not trying hard enough. I'm sure the reason we haven't seen more acts of goodwill towards the Republic is due to this "give a mouse a cookie" attitude, where even if the incredibly time consuming efforts like you mentioned were met, there would still be criticism and demands for more reparations, which i'm sure would just be used to fund weapons of destruction like Gallente relief money.
The hubris was not the assumption that our superior morals would protect us, rather the assumption that the Matari would not murder their own people, the assumption that when someone strolls up to your front door in a lightly armed escort fleet bearing a white flag they do not have hostile intentions. Your arguement that it is Amarrian hubris that killed the slaves is as valid as the argument that when a rapist attacks a provocatively dressed female, the female is at fault.
You can attempt to divert blame onto our actions, but the fact remains, we declared peaceful intentions, our fleet was clearly not hostile, we were fired upon first. If the Minmatar fleet had decimated the escort fleet but left the hauler unharmed, the arguements might be different, but the fact is the entire fleet was wantonly attacked and the coordinated fleet undock shows pre-meditated hostilities and not the result of a solo pilot failing to get the memo.
This conversation only reinforces to me that the Matari do not in fact come for their people, but come for war and only war, choosing to use any and all means to justify further war mongering. Even had we gone through more bureaucratic channels, I foresee a scenario ending in a similar situation with Amarrian bloodshed at the hands of the Matar only the Matar resecuring the slaves rather than killing them and still accusing the Amarr of hubris for trusting the Minmatar would uphold any formal agreement.
As i've stated before, its disappointing that rather than mourn this tragedy and working together to prevent this from ever happening again, there are parties seeking to turn it into a propaganda piece.
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Kraven Fawkes
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.12.25 18:28:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Streya Jormagdnir wrote:Why didn't you go through Electus Matari? You want to show goodwill and free some slaves? Take the poor souls to a neutral station you know for certain you can dock at. Contact Electus Matari. Transfer the people into their care. Done deal! No hassle!
Amarrian hubris at its finest here. "Well our superior morals will protect us from the fact we didn't contact the right people, choose the right drop-off point, or even bother to fit the Bestower with warp core stabilizers like any reasonable lowsec hauler pilot would. Hurrrr." You lot did NOTHING to absolutely ensure anyone's safety. A bunch of bullcrap words by Pinky.
STOP you damned idiot....that hauler was killed by friendlies and you know it! It was in the kill mail you posted. Everyone, stop giving this moron the benefit of the doubt that "she may have had good intentions but was just a moron in how she did it" and read the fugging killmail, you will see that the UK pilot did some damage, but it was the haulers own allies that did most of the damage and, here's my favorite part, got the final blow.
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Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
34
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Posted - 2012.12.25 18:31:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:
The hubris was not the assumption that our superior morals would protect us, rather the assumption that the Matari would not murder their own people, the assumption that when someone strolls up to your front door in a lightly armed escort fleet bearing a white flag they do not have hostile intentions.
And you assume further that the actions of a few capsuleers reflect the mindset of an entire people. The actions of U'K reflect only upon U'K. Pure and simple. I know as a fact and will vouch for Electus Matari as an appropriate organization for turning freed slaves over to. They take care of them, rehabilitate them, and so on and so forth. While I won't bash against U'K in this thread, I know Electus Matari has a very proud track history that can be trusted. One does not do business with an organization possessing relatively unknown intentions, but rather with a well-established organization.
And that is how you avoid these sorts of things in the future. Happy?
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Alizabeth Vea
Demon-War-Lords
Fatal Ascension
58
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Posted - 2012.12.25 20:26:00 -
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Hello, you may have missed my announcement on this Summit. However, the next time you want to set up the Minmatar into killing a couple thousand of their own people, please contact me first. Not only will the story be more believable, but I will help you handle the PR.
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Kraven Fawkes
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.12.25 21:57:00 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:Hello, you may have missed my announcement on this Summit. However, the next time you want to set up the Minmatar into killing a couple thousand of their own people, please contact me first. Not only will the story be more believable, but I will help you handle the PR.
While I am not a huge fan of what Ms. Vea offers as a service, in the future perhaps using a professional "spin doctor" would serve you well as opposed to leaving it to someone who fumbled so badly at a frame job. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
349
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Posted - 2012.12.25 22:32:00 -
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Psychological Experiment: Put 2184 Matari in a ship with 1 Amarrian at the helm.
First Question: Would a Republic terrorist kill over two thousand of his own kinsman just to get to the one Amarrian?
Answer: See OP.
Q: Which does the Republic value more; freeing the Matari people, or killing Amarrians? Or to put it another way, are they more motivated by love or hate?
A: Hate... by a factor of 2184.
I am Kat's utter lack of surprise.
I am not surprised that they would do this. I am even less surprised that they'd try to shift the blame back onto the very same Amarrians who were trying release those slaves from bondage. Truth be told, if an Republican on Pator gets hooked on gambling, starts snorting crash and finds his wife ran off with a Gallente poet... he will wave his fist in the air and blame it all on the Amarrians.
The Amarr don't believe in a devil, but the Republic certainly does. They drill the idea of the Amarrian boogey-man into their heads before they learn to walk, so it's no surprise that blaming the Amarr for every little problem that they face in life is a literal reflex action for them. Every misfortune, every failure, every pointless death - yep, all the Amarr's fault. Your buddy flies a kamikaze ship into an Amarrian passenger liner and you'd blame the Amarr for building the passenger liner which so unjustly took your poor friend's life. Oh you poor little victim you.
It's such a crock of crap that there is no point in even arguing against it. It's a social psychosis, perpetuated by their own junta and they're quite happy with being able to blame all their woes on someone else. After all, it absolves them of any sense of responsibility for their actions - which is important when you're doing things like, oh I dunno, blowing up a transport ship with 2185 innocent people onboard.
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Los Muertas
Servant Brothers of New Eden
87
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Posted - 2012.12.25 22:42:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote: A lot of words that demonstrate a lack of reading comprehension.
It has been clearly shown that this was a frame job, and while I will be the first Minmatar here to acknowledge that more often then not my kinsmen have a terrible tendency to act before thinking, you and the OP have proven that your ilk have a tendency to murder and try and, as is usual, place the blame elsewhere.
Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers
Moar Tears
426
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Posted - 2012.12.25 22:44:00 -
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Streya Jormagdnir wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote:
The hubris was not the assumption that our superior morals would protect us, rather the assumption that the Matari would not murder their own people, the assumption that when someone strolls up to your front door in a lightly armed escort fleet bearing a white flag they do not have hostile intentions.
And you assume further that the actions of a few capsuleers reflect the mindset of an entire people. The actions of U'K reflect only upon U'K. Pure and simple. I know as a fact and will vouch for Electus Matari as an appropriate organization for turning freed slaves over to. They take care of them, rehabilitate them, and so on and so forth. While I won't bash against U'K in this thread, I know Electus Matari has a very proud track history that can be trusted. One does not do business with an organization possessing relatively unknown intentions, but rather with a well-established organization. And that is how you avoid these sorts of things in the future. Happy?
I purely understand that the actions of few do not reflect the actions of the whole and have specifically said that in previous postings. In fact, they brought us sincere gifts and reparations shortly after the tragedy occured, yet before this post. In fact, I spoke to many of them on voice comms afterwards and we both concluded that it was neither side's finest hour. I believe there are more good people on both sides than there are bad, however, as many of us know, all it takes is a select and vocal few to ruin things for the whole.
I appreciate, the contact information about E'M and will seek to contact them in the future, however, instead of making criticisms for the Amarr not doing more, perhaps it would be in order for the Minmatar to meet somewhere in the middle and you could have the group you vouch so strongly for get in contact with me.
If this thread came across as a propaganda post, I would like to apologize for that as it was written in the heat of disappointment and anguish and many of the comments were in response to inflammatory replies. If there is anything I want this post to stand for its the importance of communication on BOTH sides in order to improve relations, and while there are lessons to be learned on our part, the massacre would only truly be a wasteful tragedy if the Matar did not also learn from this sad occurance.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
352
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Posted - 2012.12.25 23:19:00 -
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Los Muertas wrote:I suffer from delusions intelligence
See? I can play that game too.
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Los Muertas
Servant Brothers of New Eden
87
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Posted - 2012.12.25 23:34:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Los Muertas wrote:I suffer from delusions intelligence See? I can play that game too.
Yes...but not very well.
Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism |
Flyingleanpocket
Amarrian Vengeance
24eme Legion Etrangere
12
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Posted - 2012.12.26 03:46:00 -
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Provi full of slaves incoming. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
950
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Posted - 2012.12.26 03:55:00 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.12.26 04:07:00 -
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance
24eme Legion Etrangere
241
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Posted - 2012.12.26 10:40:00 -
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If our counter parts from Ushra' Khan cannot live up to their own motto of 'we come for our people'......
Then Might I suggest the Amarr 'liberate' the people of the UK home system of Isbrabata.
Something along the lines of what TEST alliance did for OWN alliance not to long ago.
If the UK are killing the people they 'came for' then the Amarr should organize a 'We Come For Your People' campaign.
My two isk.
We fly outgunned, We fly outnumbered. It's what we do.
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance
24eme Legion Etrangere
241
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Posted - 2012.12.26 10:48:00 -
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In fact and further to my above post I suggest high level talks should begin among the top Amarr corps to kickstart a relief program for the people of Isbrabata.
Whereby much needed supplies of food, tools and medicine (not to mention some copies of Pax Amarr) are delivered to the oppressed people of Israbata that currently reel under the rule of dual faced terrorists. Terrorist that speak one thing and do another.
No 'freedom fighter' would kill the people he seeks to 'free'.
More on this after further discussions with the Amarrian consul.
We fly outgunned, We fly outnumbered. It's what we do.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Flyinghotpocket/videos |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance
24eme Legion Etrangere
241
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Posted - 2012.12.26 10:52:00 -
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Flyingleanpocket wrote:Provi full of slaves incoming.
Indeed
We fly outgunned, We fly outnumbered. It's what we do.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
507
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Posted - 2012.12.29 10:24:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:The Amarr don't believe in a devil, but the Republic certainly does.
Los Muertas wrote:It has been clearly shown that this was a frame job
I rest my case.
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Late Night Alliance
105
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Posted - 2013.01.19 13:48:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:If our counter parts from Ushra' Khan cannot live up to their own motto of 'we come for our people'......
Then Might I suggest the Amarr 'liberate' the people of the UK home system of Isbrabata.
Something along the lines of what TEST alliance did for OWN alliance not to long ago.
If the UK are killing the people they 'came for' then the Amarr should organize a 'We Come For Your People' campaign.
My two isk.
^ Signed.
After you are done, you should try to save fortress Kamela from us.
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts.
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.19 13:50:00 -
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kraiklyn Asatru wrote:On behalf of the Matari, I would like to formally declare that these are all Lies! It is an outrage!
The Matari group delivering necessary Christmas supplies to Egghelende were fired upon unprovoked!
Luckily we managed to jettison our essential supplies prior to the unwanted destruction visited upon my ship by an Amarrian Loki! This was just another massacre initiated by the Amarr in an attempt to create negative publicity.
Who made you spokesmen for us?
Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts.
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