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Daniel Whateley
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
4
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Posted - 2012.12.28 08:56:00 -
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So today i went out to pvp, came across a tempest, had a buddy in system in a moa, i was in my deimos, this guy in the tempest is sitting 60km off gate in the bubbles, well i go over and tackle him with a disruptor, shred his shields, everthings going okay, he starts neuting me, and then managed to web and scram me, keeping my guns online and disruptor with my small nos, my friend comes in with his moa and scrams him, he switches to my friend, eventually he goes pop, and then i'm cheering to myself going he's almost down, he has 10% STRUCTURE left, and then initiates his microjump drive... now i wouldn't normally complain about this such a good fight, but why does a scram work to disrupt them....... and a normal disruptor doesn't, they're not a microwarp drive, why did CCP decide that they would make such an Over-Powered device for battleships for them to escape so quickly, you cant even clear 100km distance with a dramiel before their battleship is able to warp out, i think theres a bit of balancing that needs to take place with microjump drives, perhaps a longer start up timer ? instead of the 12 seconds it is, or maybe make disruptors turn it off aswell as bubbles, you can bubble or even focus disrupt a capital ship but you cant stop a battleship from getting away unless you have 1 type of module ? thats kind of hilariously dumb. |
Juan Andalusian
Bastion 437
1
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:01:00 -
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Wts Micro Paragraph Generator I |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
418
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:04:00 -
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You are just doing it wrong.
/thread
"Also, your boobs  " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
277
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:04:00 -
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The MJD is now something that you have to consider when in the objective to kill a batlteship.
I know it makes them harder to be caught, but it adds new possibilities and for that I'm thankfull to CCP :) Also, some Battleships were too close to their Tier 3 Battlecruiser counterpart, and thus had to have something 'more'. (After all, you're flying the heaviest size of sub-cap ship, it desserves a bit of challenge isn't it ?)
I'm just sad of it's use not allowed for sniping T3 BCs.
MJD will remain almost non-used in many situation, and this will make them a very good element of surprise for some cases. As a tiny-sized gang fleet commander I think : More strategy, more moaaar !
My two isks.
Edit : If you let a battleship with 10% hull escape despite the 8-12 sec scool up charge, you might consider that you deserved it :D
After years and years of research around ice mining, they finally found how to make snowballs again :D |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
2623
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:08:00 -
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Battleships were kind of underpowered, and in cases where they weren't adding a MJD won't make them overpowered anyway.
It's a good module.
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Syn Fatelyng
Redanni
59
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:13:00 -
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Daniel Whateley wrote:Stuff So, you want to take a module that gives more tactical opportunities by nerfing it to not work under scramblers, disruptors, and bubbles. More or less every major pvp scenario imaginable in EVE. |
Scrindle Kavees
Vengeful Swan
16
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:16:00 -
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Why did you have a disruptor on a Deimos instead of a scram?
OH MY GOD. Were you using rails on a Deimos? :( |
Seranova Farreach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:20:00 -
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Daniel Whateley wrote:So today i went out to pvp, came across a tempest, had a buddy in system in a moa, i was in my deimos, this guy in the tempest is sitting 60km off gate in the bubbles, well i go over and tackle him with a disruptor, shred his shields, everthings going okay, he starts neuting me, and then managed to web and scram me, keeping my guns online and disruptor with my small nos, my friend comes in with his moa and scrams him, he switches to my friend, eventually he goes pop, and then i'm cheering to myself going he's almost down, he has 10% STRUCTURE left, and then initiates his microjump drive... now i wouldn't normally complain about this such a good fight, but why does a scram work to disrupt them....... and a normal disruptor doesn't, they're not a microwarp drive, why did CCP decide that they would make such an Over-Powered device for battleships for them to escape so quickly, you cant even clear 100km distance with a dramiel before their battleship is able to warp out, i think theres a bit of balancing that needs to take place with microjump drives, perhaps a longer start up timer ? instead of the 12 seconds it is, or maybe make disruptors turn it off aswell as bubbles, you can bubble or even focus disrupt a capital ship but you cant stop a battleship from getting away unless you have 1 type of module ? thats kind of hilariously dumb.
they workd on the same principal of MWDs so you NEED a scram for them. |
CaiIyn Dove
Perkone
Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:20:00 -
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You don't trust a warp disruptor on vagabond, now just plus battleships. |
Seranova Farreach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:21:00 -
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Juan Andalusian wrote:Wts Micro Paragraph Generator I
i laughed. |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
2595
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:22:00 -
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So a Tempest barely escapes from you and your buddy, you are declaring it over powered?! I think you need a larger sample base to make that kind of declaration. One encounter just seems a bit lacking on the data.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
11077
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:34:00 -
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Scrindle Kavees wrote:Why did you have a disruptor on a Deimos instead of a scram?
OH MY GOD. Were you using rails on a Deimos? :(
Nah. It was probably a Vamos GÇö scrams don't really reach the 20GÇô25km you want to be at in one of those.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
471
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Posted - 2012.12.28 10:41:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Scrindle Kavees wrote:Why did you have a disruptor on a Deimos instead of a scram?
OH MY GOD. Were you using rails on a Deimos? :( Nah. It was probably a Vamos GÇö scrams don't really reach the 20GÇô25km you want to be at in one of those.
Actually, shield kiting Deimos is quite good.
Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
266
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Posted - 2012.12.28 10:46:00 -
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I love my Large Micro Jump Drive. It's a fine module.
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The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
6545
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Posted - 2012.12.28 10:47:00 -
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I love the MJD, would like one for smaller and bigger ships as well. The neat thing is that even if you jump, if you have range skills you will still keep the lock, both as the jumper and the leftover pilot. Sneak attacks!
/c
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
1147
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Posted - 2012.12.28 10:50:00 -
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UMAD UMAD UMAD UMAD UMAD UMAD |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
266
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Posted - 2012.12.28 10:51:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I love the MJD, would like one for smaller and bigger ships as well. The neat thing is that even if you jump, if you have range skills you will still keep the lock, both as the jumper and the leftover pilot. Sneak attacks!
/c
I do like that you retain lock after jumping. Was a neat feature I showed my corp mate when we were messing around, mwa ha ha ha! 
( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2321
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Posted - 2012.12.28 10:55:00 -
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Oh crap I just realized I don't know the difference between a scram and an disruptor.
I would just use a large nuet on them and run away in with 100MN AB in by Cyclone.
(oh the power grid! what torture)
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To mare
Advanced Technology
79
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Posted - 2012.12.28 12:46:00 -
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i think that giving to the most heavy subcapital ship a tool to run away to make them useful its like going against their nature.
if they really needed a boost i i would have preferred something to make them more deadly in combat rather than better at running away. |
Pewty McPew
Pillage Plunder And Rape Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:01:00 -
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Daniel Whateley wrote:So today i went out to pvp, came across a tempest, had a buddy in system in a moa, i was in my deimos, this guy in the tempest is sitting 60km off gate in the bubbles, well i go over and tackle him with a disruptor, shred his shields, everthings going okay, he starts neuting me, and then managed to web and scram me, keeping my guns online and disruptor with my small nos, my friend comes in with his moa and scrams him, he switches to my friend, eventually he goes pop, and then i'm cheering to myself going he's almost down, he has 10% STRUCTURE left, and then initiates his microjump drive... now i wouldn't normally complain about this such a good fight, but why does a scram work to disrupt them....... and a normal disruptor doesn't, they're not a microwarp drive, why did CCP decide that they would make such an Over-Powered device for battleships for them to escape so quickly, you cant even clear 100km distance with a dramiel before their battleship is able to warp out, i think theres a bit of balancing that needs to take place with microjump drives, perhaps a longer start up timer ? instead of the 12 seconds it is, or maybe make disruptors turn it off aswell as bubbles, you can bubble or even focus disrupt a capital ship but you cant stop a battleship from getting away unless you have 1 type of module ? thats kind of hilariously dumb.
haha, the pirate fail tears are so delicious
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1592
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:09:00 -
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Juan Andalusian wrote:Wts Micro Paragraph Generator I
Winning!
MJD sounds like it is working as intended. I need to go play with these...
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Santo Trafficante
the united
Negative Ten.
3
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:39:00 -
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Daniel Whateley wrote:So today i went out to pvp, came across a tempest, had a buddy in system in a moa, i was in my deimos, this guy in the tempest is sitting 60km off gate in the bubbles, well i go over and tackle him with a disruptor, shred his shields, everthings going okay, he starts neuting me, and then managed to web and scram me, keeping my guns online and disruptor with my small nos, my friend comes in with his moa and scrams him, he switches to my friend, eventually he goes pop, and then i'm cheering to myself going he's almost down, he has 10% STRUCTURE left, and then initiates his microjump drive... now i wouldn't normally complain about this such a good fight, but why does a scram work to disrupt them....... and a normal disruptor doesn't, they're not a microwarp drive, why did CCP decide that they would make such an Over-Powered device for battleships for them to escape so quickly, you cant even clear 100km distance with a dramiel before their battleship is able to warp out, i think theres a bit of balancing that needs to take place with microjump drives, perhaps a longer start up timer ? instead of the 12 seconds it is, or maybe make disruptors turn it off aswell as bubbles, you can bubble or even focus disrupt a capital ship but you cant stop a battleship from getting away unless you have 1 type of module ? thats kind of hilariously dumb.
yo dumb homie... get real |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3109
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Posted - 2012.12.28 14:54:00 -
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To mare wrote:i think that giving to the most heavy subcapital ship a tool to run away to make them useful its like going against their nature.
if they really needed a boost i i would have preferred something to make them more deadly in combat rather than better at running away.
The ability to control position, or reposition, on a slow but powerful ship has always been a critical element in actually bringing their firepower to bear.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Toku Jiang
Jiang Laboratories and Discovery
51
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Posted - 2012.12.28 14:54:00 -
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It appears this mod is working as intended and looks like it made the battleship a viable bait ship  |
Ammzi
Infinite Covenant
Tribal Band
1256
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Posted - 2012.12.28 14:59:00 -
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HHahahahahahhahahahaahahhahahahahhahahahaha
Holy ****, try to be more butthurt about it.
That's the difference between a disruptor and a scrambler. Less/more range, more disruption power/less disruption power.
If you want an I-WIN button go play something else.
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade
The East India Co.
656
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Posted - 2012.12.28 15:03:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I love the MJD, would like one for smaller and bigger ships as well. The neat thing is that even if you jump, if you have range skills you will still keep the lock, both as the jumper and the leftover pilot. Sneak attacks!
/c
Target from 100k to make them think you're long range fit then MJD ontop of them and **** face with blasters.
What's this - strategy? In MY EVE?!? This will not stand!
Bumping, leave it alone. |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade
The East India Co.
656
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Posted - 2012.12.28 15:05:00 -
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To mare wrote:i think that giving to the most heavy subcapital ship a tool to run away to make them useful its like going against their nature.
if they really needed a boost i i would have preferred something to make them more deadly in combat rather than better at running away.
You realize this does make them more deadly in combat right?
"Oh, you're way too close to my sniping Rokh"
zzzzzzip
"problem solved, pew pew pew"
Bumping, leave it alone. |
YoYo NickyYo
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
342
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Posted - 2012.12.28 17:21:00 -
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I call shenanigans! A Deimos with rails could not even get thru a Pest's shields before running out of ammo!
"Working as intended" |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
C.L.O.N.E.
1023
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Posted - 2012.12.28 17:23:00 -
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I've yet to even see someone use a MJD. I'm surprised, I assumed we'd see more battleships in lo sec since they were introduced.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
953
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Posted - 2012.12.28 17:26:00 -
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The intention with introducing micro jump drives was to give battleships a different means to keep themselves at range from things. But yeah you're going to see people use it as a means to escape, that much was apparent from even before the module was actually introduced. |
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