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Scaramanga Erquilenne
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Posted - 2012.12.29 23:43:00 -
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Four months in to eve and still enjoying it apart from a few things like the sheer expense of every thing in game and the lack of financial reward from missions exploration and mining compared to the costs of good ships and good moduals .I am slowly working though all the different ways to play the game and decided to invest in a blueprint research in and build some stuff as well as exploration and running missions.Unless you want to grind for endless hours you have no option but to buy plex and well as you 10 euro a month sub at least for the fist year.
I Invested 30 mil in a retriever and 7 mil on insurance and another 10 mil on fitting it out to mine some ice now that's almost 40 mil there.It takes many hours of game play for a new player to get 40 mil.I found a ice Field last night in brapelille 07 and started to mine some blue ice.Seemed to take for ages to fill up the ore hold and to my surprise about 1 hour on mining bluice only yielded me 4 million isk .So that would work out at 10 hours of mining blue ice just to cover the cost of what i spent on the equipment and ship.
Understand that as the weeks , months, years pass and i improve my skills and equipment that the yield will increase.But at the moment as a new player this is were i am.So i am sitting mining the ice and i notice some odd behaviour and ships coming in and out of the sector and some one talking about having to pay 100 million for a licence to mine ice in the area .I Align my ship to the gate and got ready to jump and sure enough 1 min later 8 catalysts warp in on a suicide mission i warp out and manage to get away.
I changed ship and returned to the sector to see what happened and i noticed that the player who was mining ice next to me did not make it out and lost his ship.Now unless he was using a alt this player was also a new player like my self according to his profile.So i read the local chatter and it turns out the new order is trying to run a extortion racket on the mine field.Plain to see that they were all alts used by experienced eve players to suicide miners under the guise of a supposed cause.
My guess is they all have great incomes from there other alts are some goo ISK rolling in with little effort.And it would be fine if they had to live with the consequence of their actions but they don't, sure all the alts will disappear in a short while and new ones will appear and repeat.Now if i lost my 40 mil investment while grinding for just 4 mil a hour in a ice field in 07 space I would start to think the cards are all stacked against new players and its pointless.
Its just experienced bored players with lots of spare ISK preying upon new players for laughs and giggles and in the end i am sure all it will do is turn new players away from the game.I would be happy with this if these people stayed with these characters and used them as their main but they dont .Just seems a lame war to fight to me, plenty battles out there they could get involved in with people who can fight back.
Not saying all high sec should be safeI have no problem with losing a ship in high sec and if ccp want to make it more of a challenge throw in some harder AI at high sec mining sites i just think experienced players with ISK to burn who suicide new players who grinds for hours and days weeks to make a start in the game is bad for the game.The use of alts just make it all pointless and why on earth would any station let wanted players dock in it anyway.
Maybe us new players should get some cheap ships and go and pod the one day accounts coming out of a station unless they pay us 10 mil sure CCP would like that . Its the same principle as what New order is trying to do and its a game breaker.
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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2012.12.29 23:59:00 -
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What an important message for the head cheese at CCP. Should move this to crime and punishment so it gets the proper attention it deserves! |
Zoe Athame
Lowddit
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:00:00 -
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If they can fight you, you can fight back.
Really nothing else to it. |
Jacob Rider
Rifterlings
Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:10:00 -
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No, you don't have to pay. You can mine somewhere else. Or you can find a different way to earn ISK.
This type of behavior is allowed in EVE. It isn't against the rules. It might drive some people away, but more are staying than going.
Working as intended. HTFU. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:11:00 -
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The issue you are describing is at this moment well and thoroughly looked at by CCP.
You can read CCP Falcon's post regarding the matter here, and that it's now in the hands of the GM's for review here.
As this is considered a thread about miner bumping, it will be locked.
ISD Ezwal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:15:00 -
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Considering that ice mining is roughly 1/5 or less the ISK of ore mining, I don't know why you're worried about it.
If you really want to mine ice, try a system a little further from the local trade hub (more than 4 jumps), mine a long way off the warp-in and d-scan for trouble |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:18:00 -
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Just go mine somewhere else.
There are many systems with ice
This website allows you to search for them.
They only continue to harrass people because the people that mine there either a) pay them   , or b) Don't Move/Fight Back
What they are doing falls under the ninja salvaging, hisec gate ganking, shiny L4 missioneer ganking style of gameplay.
You might not like it, you might not approve of it, but it's a gameplay style that is allowed within the rules and mechanics of the game, and it's here to stay because they like that style of play. |
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