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Jimmy Hawks Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2012.12.30 15:25:00 - [1] - Quote No, I am not a supporter of the Amarr (I like their Cloaks and Hoods though...) No, I don't support their Slavery. No, I am not a religious person (Spiritual yes, -not- religious!) However... After reading the EVE Novels and many of the Chronicles I just can't deny that the Amarrian Scriptures are indeed highly fascinating! While I was always like "Pff... damn Amarrians... Keep them away from me!", I've come to notice that I keep reading all the stuff about their Scriptures and how the Amarr interprete them on various occassions to make things seem as if they occured exacly as the Scriptures foretold them. Now I am aware that there are not only multiple versions of the Scriptures within the Amarr Empire, but that the whole of the collection is too big to put it all together into one Book... However, maybe you CCP Savants can put together a 600 - 1'000 Page Book that is The Scriptures. Lore wise you could always explain it's existance as if Sarum I or the Theology Council released a "core" version that counts for all Amarrians as the standard of the Scriptures. You could release that in printed form in a pretty golden Hard Cover version. It sure would be one of my fave Books in my private Library... I just wish this Book to be in my collection! What does the Community think about this? And no... I really am not an Amarr in disguise!
AstraPardus Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans 116	Posted - 2012.12.30 16:11:00 - [2] - Quote I agree, this would bring some more depth to the immersive experience. Much like the Games Workshop folks printing some of the texts they have. Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Sepherim Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 93	Posted - 2012.12.30 16:36:00 - [3] - Quote Jimmy Hawks wrote: However, maybe you CCP Savants can put together a 600 - 1'000 Page Book that is The Scriptures. Lore wise you could always explain it's existance as if Sarum I or the Theology Council released a "core" version that counts for all Amarrians as the standard of the Scriptures. I like the idea of a released Scriptures book, but certainly not 600-1000 pages long!! Probably, a simple pdf of 50-60 would be more than enough to give the most important passages, the structure of how it's organized, and a clear view of the most imortant ideas and concepts. Sepherim Catillah; Ex-Imperial Navy Officer
Jimmy Hawks Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2012.12.30 16:46:00 - [4] - Quote Sepherim wrote: Jimmy Hawks wrote: However, maybe you CCP Savants can put together a 600 - 1'000 Page Book that is The Scriptures. Lore wise you could always explain it's existance as if Sarum I or the Theology Council released a "core" version that counts for all Amarrians as the standard of the Scriptures. I like the idea of a released Scriptures book, but certainly not 600-1000 pages long!! Probably, a simple pdf of 50-60 would be more than enough to give the most important passages, the structure of how it's organized, and a clear view of the most imortant ideas and concepts. Well I was thinking of 600-1'000 Pages so that is has kind of the proper size a "Holy Book" deserves. Thinking of it as the "Amarrian Bible" so to say. From what we see currently from the Scriptures it seems to be mostly structured like the Bible too. Sooo... A printed Hard Cover (even a soft cover would be okay I guess) version in a proper size would make this a very unique release. That way we have something to study a bit deeper than only a hand full of important quotes as we do now.
Mekhana Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 689	Posted - 2012.12.31 15:45:00 - [5] - Quote The gallente constitution would take a whole lot less pages. So do that first.
Sepherim Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 97	Posted - 2012.12.31 16:57:00 - [6] - Quote Mekhana wrote: The gallente constitution would take a whole lot less pages. So do that first. If you have ever read a real constitution, you know how horribly boring it would be to read such a text. Sepherim Catillah; Ex-Imperial Navy Officer
Telegram Sam Shoot 2 Thrill 832	Posted - 2012.12.31 19:32:00 - [7] - Quote Could be a great sourcebook for if you're writing a Amarr-themed story and want to throw in some scripture. Or base your story around a certain scripture. Like Jules the hit man in Pulp Fiction and his Ezekial 12:17 quote: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Rall Mekin Jadablade Redneck Rage 21	Posted - 2012.12.31 19:38:00 - [8] - Quote Yeah, I have to completely agree. It is very, very annoying to have people qouting "scripture" right and left, and theres not one authoritative source text considered "cannon" in game for what is or is not in game Amarr scriptures. It would also help to quantify and pin down their theology a bit too. It would really help out role players of ALL sorts.
Thgil Goldcore Advenus Classem 472	Posted - 2012.12.31 21:12:00 - [9] - Quote http://www.praetorian-guard.org/upload/publications/Book_of_Prayers_and_Devotions.pdf here's a very good player made collection of scripture related to reclaiming. VERY handy for the Amarr milita roleplayer. The author does a very good job writing meditations which help get you into the Amarr mindset. Which truth be told is alien to traditional western culture as it sits now.
Thgil Goldcore Advenus Classem 472	Posted - 2012.12.31 21:16:00 - [10] - Quote I guess it should be noted that the Amarr scriptures isn't limited to one book like we know like the bible, koran, torra, or other holy works. Its practically a library of texts.
Mekhana Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 698	Posted - 2012.12.31 23:07:00 - [11] - Quote Sepherim wrote: Mekhana wrote: The gallente constitution would take a whole lot less pages. So do that first. If you have ever read a real constitution, you know how horribly boring it would be to read such a text. Hehe you mean like reading a bible right?
AstraPardus Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans 135	Posted - 2012.12.31 23:11:00 - [12] - Quote Mekhana wrote: Sepherim wrote: Mekhana wrote: The gallente constitution would take a whole lot less pages. So do that first. If you have ever read a real constitution, you know how horribly boring it would be to read such a text. Hehe you mean like reading a bible right? Some people get REALLY excited when they read stuff from that book aloud... Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Nicoletta Mithra PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 149	Posted - 2013.01.01 03:04:00 - [13] - Quote Thgil Goldcore wrote: http://www.praetorian-guard.org/upload/publications/Book_of_Prayers_and_Devotions.pdf here's a very good player made collection of scripture related to reclaiming. VERY handy for the Amarr milita roleplayer. The author does a very good job writing meditations which help get you into the Amarr mindset. Which truth be told is alien to traditional western culture as it sits now. I guess it should be noted that the Amarr scriptures isn't limited to one book like we know like the bible, koran, torra, or other holy works. Its practically a library of texts. First, there is an official source for snippets of the Scriptures. Second, the Bible (from ancient greek: ta biblia - the books) isn't a single book, but in fact a library of books. Still, the Scriptures encompass a vastly larger corpus than the Bible."They are not limited to just religious dogma; they describe everything from out-of-date codes of behavior to early technological breakthroughs." So while the Bible isn't limited to religious dogma either: actually it seems to contain little dogma at all, as one can ascertain oneself if one delves a bit into the scientific study of the bible, the Bible doesn't involve recordings of technological breakthroughs or complete genealogical records as the Amarrian Scriptures does. Thirdly, that "Book of Prayers and Devotions" is licentiously utilizing Judeo-Christian prayers, exchaging for example in the Intercession of the Saints "virgin mother of God" with Dano Gheinok or simply taking excerpts of psalms without altering them at all - and it isn't even pointing its sources out. I think that plagiarizing like that is especially unlucky, as it might seriously offend Christians and Jews by tacitly associating them or at least their religion and holy scripture with a slave-holding, oftentimes for the modern person blatantly evil Empire. Also, I think it is containing sections that are simply in conflict with PF. In summary, I'd refrain from advocating its use, even though I like the idea behind it. P.S.: That said, I'd like such a book as well, maybe giving an introduction on the nature of the Amarrian Scriptures, how it's dealt with by Amarrian theologians and then giving some new, more extensive samples of what is already established as the religious core of the Amarrian Scriptures ("Those three books, along with the Book of Reclaiming, form the basis of the Amarr religion and are thus considered the most important by the Amarr." see Dano Gheinok - Religous Influences) in addition to those snippets we already have.
Dheeradj Nurgle Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 155	Posted - 2013.01.03 00:50:00 - [14] - Quote I always imagined The Scriptured would be based on the Old Testament.... Would be interesting to actually read CCP's take on it.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 1772	Posted - 2013.01.03 11:24:00 - [15] - Quote Oh, you have no idea how much I'd love to do this. Unfortunately, religious text is a weak point in my writing and it'd take a massive amount of work. Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept @CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents


CCP Falcon 2000	Posted - 2013.01.03 11:45:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Oh, you have no idea how much I'd love to do this. Unfortunately, religious text is a weak point in my writing and it'd take a massive amount of work. I do not want you to do this. I do not want to come home from work to find you whipping slaves in our apartment and screaming about the glory of the Empress while massaging yourself with pieces of parchment. (It's actually a pretty awesome idea to have these printed though, in all seriousness) CCP Falcon -á \|\| -á EVE Community Team -á \|\| -á EVE Illuminati -á \|\| -á-á@CCP_Falcon -á \|\| -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents -- Disciple Of The Delicious Tea --

Jimmy Hawks Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2013.01.03 12:30:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Oh, you have no idea how much I'd love to do this. Unfortunately, religious text is a weak point in my writing and it'd take a massive amount of work. Hmm, close your eyes, feel the Divine~~ Then open your eyes, take a pen and write them all down. God will guide you on this journey (at least that's how it usualy works, doesn't it...? :P ) Have faith Amarrian, for you are the chosen one! On a more serious note, yes it certainly would be a lot of work. However: - It would surely be enjoyable for the writer to do this (assuming the writer is a TRUE Amarr, which I am positive they will be!). - That book would be a jewel for us nerdy Lore-Geeks and Role Players. - It would clearly enchant yours and Falcon's Life (obviousely, hehe) - And it would be good for the treasury of CCP. I call this a Win / Win deal!
Tomiko Kawase Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 103	Posted - 2013.01.03 12:53:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Oh, you have no idea how much I'd love to do this. Unfortunately, religious text is a weak point in my writing and it'd take a massive amount of work. I do not want you to do this. I do not want to come home from work to find you whipping slaves in our apartment and screaming about the glory of the Empress while massaging yourself with pieces of parchment. (It's actually a pretty awesome idea to have these printed though, in all seriousness) Not sure if the idea was ever thrown around, but if not printed form, e-books would be welcomed for EVE lore. I would pay money for a collection of all the chronicles I could easily stick on a kindle. Collecting some of the longer works on the wiki would be awesome, too. Fight us maybe?
Telegram Sam Shoot 2 Thrill 836	Posted - 2013.01.03 15:28:00 - [19] - Quote Mekhana wrote: Sepherim wrote: Mekhana wrote: The gallente constitution would take a whole lot less pages. So do that first. If you have ever read a real constitution, you know how horribly boring it would be to read such a text. Hehe you mean like reading a bible right? Hey, some of the Old Testament stuff is pretty action-packed. Sacking cities, hauling off all the women to be wives and concubines, killing hundreds of Philistines with the jawbone of a donkey.... Robert E. Howard got a lot of his inspiration for the Conan stories from that stuff.
Bloodpetal Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO 1161	Posted - 2013.01.03 17:03:00 - [20] - Quote I think this would be cool, but 600-1000 pages is an ABSURD amount of information. I think just a few more segments of the Amarrian Scriptures would be very intriguing. Where I am.
Telegram Sam Shoot 2 Thrill 836	Posted - 2013.01.03 18:27:00 - [21] - Quote Tomiko Kawase wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Oh, you have no idea how much I'd love to do this. Unfortunately, religious text is a weak point in my writing and it'd take a massive amount of work. I do not want you to do this. I do not want to come home from work to find you whipping slaves in our apartment and screaming about the glory of the Empress while massaging yourself with pieces of parchment. (It's actually a pretty awesome idea to have these printed though, in all seriousness) Not sure if the idea was ever thrown around, but if not printed form, e-books would be welcomed for EVE lore. I would pay money for a collection of all the chronicles I could easily stick on a kindle. Collecting some of the longer works on the wiki would be awesome, too. Me too. I'd gladly pay for a Chronicles compilation or lore compilation in some eformat.
Jimmy Hawks Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2013.01.03 18:41:00 - [22] - Quote Bloodpetal wrote: I think this would be cool, but 600-1000 pages is an ABSURD amount of information. I think just a few more segments of the Amarrian Scriptures would be very intriguing. Maybe absurdly awesome amount of Information? Take the three current EVE Novels. All three together have probably more than 1200 Pages and it's very little Info 600 Pages isn't much believe me. Take some Fantasy or Sci-Fi Novel. Most good books have usualy 600-900-ish Pages anyway. Sounds like much but it isn't really that much.
Arline Kley PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 89	Posted - 2013.01.03 18:52:00 - [23] - Quote It wouldn't need to be a single large book either - Maybe two or three books (or even more if the Scriptures get fleshed out fully) as a small series would work, lessen the amount of writing needing to be done at once, and give people some more impressive appearance on peoples book cases. And maybe have Quafe available again... Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows
Nicoletta Mithra PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 168	Posted - 2013.01.03 21:12:00 - [24] - Quote Maybe we leave the church in town and don't expect too much? I am reading an excellent book on the Tanakh and it's top to bottom ~500 sites. I'd think one shouldn't really expect more than 1/4 to 1/2 of that for a fictional book on the Amarrian Scripture.
Synthetic Cultist Church of The Crimson Saviour 87	Posted - 2013.01.03 23:13:00 - [25] - Quote I was under the impression that "The Scriptures" were... rather large. In that, during an event some years ago, involving the Order of Saint Tetrimon, it took several Bestowers to move some original printings of some Scriptural works. several thousand cubic metres.
Sepherim Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 105	Posted - 2013.01.04 01:11:00 - [26] - Quote They are indeed, Synthetic. We're not talking here about a real compilation of the Scriptures, which would include technology far beyond our current reach, but a compilation of the important part for us RPers and people interested in EvE Lore. Inside the universe they are way too big for any book to gather them. Sepherim Catillah; Ex-Imperial Navy Officer
Jimmy Hawks Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.01.04 11:00:00 - [27] - Quote Synthetic Cultist wrote: I was under the impression that "The Scriptures" were... rather large. In that, during an event some years ago, involving the Order of Saint Tetrimon, it took several Bestowers to move some original printings of some Scriptural works. several thousand cubic metres. Yes there are waaaay too many texts to put it into one physical Book. Hency my idea about Jamyl Sarum or more likely the Theology Council releasing one Book that will be looked at as the basics of the Scriptures that count for everyone in their Empire. Since there are so many texts about the Scriptures, that basic work would logically also have a very huge volume. Therfore I wouldn't be entierly happy with only a 300 Page Scripture Book. Such a small volume, even if it's just the basics, would just not make sense. Further study could then only be done via future Chronicles and future Novels.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 1808	Posted - 2013.01.04 11:08:00 - [28] - Quote Amarr Scriptures: The Abridged Series It would just be 600 pages of "Screw the rules, I have God." Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept @CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents

Jimmy Hawks Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.01.04 11:11:00 - [29] - Quote Nicoletta Mithra wrote: Thirdly, that "Book of Prayers and Devotions" is licentiously utilizing Judeo-Christian prayers, exchaging for example in the Intercession of the Saints "virgin mother of God" with Dano Gheinok or simply taking excerpts of psalms without altering them at all - and it isn't even pointing its sources out. You know I was actually thinking about this and a thought occured to me (no, not given by God, hehe): Since the whole EVE Lore is (solely) based in the Future of (most likely) our current Reality, it would only make sense if knowledge of the Bible would have passed down for Generations. The people now known as Amarrians have basically been Terrans (as any other EVE Race) when the EVE Gate collapsed. The millenias after that collapse must have been really terrible. So the ones that became later known as Amarrians probably clinged to the Bible in order to not lose faith and hope in that harsh times. As it usualy goes, different Preachers go for different approaches over time and so the stories even alter or new ones get added. So... following that thought it would actually be quite possible that some of the Tales and Stories we know from the Bible would have endured the time and could be found in the one or other form in the Scriptures. Any thoughts on that?
Sentient Blade Walk It Off 685	Posted - 2013.01.04 12:00:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Amarr Scriptures: The Abridged Series It would just be 600 pages of "Screw the rules, I have God." This made my day xD

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