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Sura Sa
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:04:00 -
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So I read up on this game, was playing wow, thought I'll give the trial of this a go. Created this dude and now have no clue what to do. I mean there realy is no hint really about creating a "class" for want of a better phrase. Am I a miner? A bounty hunter, pirate? WTH am I? Is there a website that gives me a "build" or advice on how to head toward the aforementioned classes? Have I already made an error with my race choice? This game looks so epic its devoured me like a black hole eating a cheese sandwich. |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
132
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:09:00 -
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There are no "Classes" You can train for whatever you want to do. First thing to do is to get out of your NPC corp, and join a Player Corp. Any corp that is worth it's bones will provide you with help(Not financial, but knowledge)
Do things, do everything, after you've done that, pick something you like and train for that. Want to run missions? Train your Combat/Social skills. Want to PvP? Combat/Electronic warfare skills. Want to be an industrialist? Train those Industry skills.
Refer to; http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Edit; Race means nothing. Every race can train in whatever they want. A good corp to join would be EVE University (IVY League Alliance) They teach the game to Newbro's. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
1428
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:15:00 -
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From the front page of EVE Online site: http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/personality-analysis/
Don't know how useful it is though. |
Tee Kay Solus
Poseidon Industries And Trading
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:16:00 -
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Take a look at this:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6310&find=unread
This is a sticky thread for new players that provides all the necessary information that you`ll need in order to depart on these fantastic journeys that await you within New Eden. Make sure you read them thoroughly and you`ll quickly learn your way around the universe.
Pay special attention to the Golden Rules - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Golden_Rules - as they`ll help you understand the mechanics governing the game and hopefully make you less annoyed should some unpleasantry occur :)
Glad to have you here. I hope you stick with us for a long time ! |
Sura Sa
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:19:00 -
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Tee Kay Solus wrote: make you less annoyed should some unpleasantry occur :)
A very nice way of saying ganking. From what I have read the whole of Eve is Stranglethorn Vale. |
Maire Gheren
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:23:00 -
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Try things out, if something catches your interest. Start trying to get better at it and then look for a corp of people who are doing that thing that can mentor you.
It's better to join a corp of people that are doing something you like than to join a corp because you think you need a corp, and join the wrong one.
You don't want to be the one lonely guy trying to figure out how to, say, pilot a combat cruiser and set up a one-person gate camp without any input or guidance while flying the banner of "Veld-A-Maniacs Mining" while your whole corp channel alternately ignores you and whines that you might get them wardecced.
Likewise, if every day your conversation on the corp channel goes "Hey, we're going on a roam in Curse again, you coming?" "Nah, I see a gravimetric site in this highsec system that has my Retriever's name written all over it", you aren't getting much out of your corp and honestly would probably be better off in the newbie corp. |
Emma d'Acques
Protomonolithic
Emergent Avionics
9
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:36:00 -
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Sura Sa wrote:A very nice way of saying ganking. From what I have read the whole of Eve is Stranglethorn Vale.
Only on a Booty Bay fishing contest day :)
EvE is exactly what WoW is not, here you make your own story, instead of following a more or less predefined path.
If you can adapt to it, and are willing to learn, you'll have a blast.
Do what YOU want, not what somebody else says, THAT is the strength of EvE.
I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example. |
Tee Kay Solus
Poseidon Industries And Trading
22
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:59:00 -
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Hehe yeah, you could put it like that, however losses here are more painful as pretty much anybody can deprive you of your precious belongings almost anytime and anywhere at whim. WoW is much more forgiving when it comes to PvP. If someone ganks you there the only thing that is put in jeopardy is your pride (and rating in Arenas/RBGS). Here you jeopardize your ship, its modules, implants and reputation everytime you click on that undock button, but don`t let it prevent you from doing things you like. As long as you have a smart approach towards anything you do you should be able to minimize the possibility of getting ganked all of a sudden to a great extent.
Sure, there are dbags out here as well, but many people are helpful, even your opressors. Even after getting blown up it`s good to talk to your assailants and ask for some advice. Sometimes you`ll just see "umad bro ?" type of answer, but very often, if addressed nicely, they actually will help you. This game can sometimes be more infuriating than a mosquito buzzing around your ear when you try to fall asleep, so it`s best that you perceive your in-game items as just some pixels of no worth. There are corporations,ekhm, actually alliances that specialize in " tears extraction "and they`ll do anything to hear you cry, try to record it if possible and then brag about it for weeks.
Out here, your actions dictate who you are. There are no builds, no talent trees, just you and what`s inside your head. There is a certification planner available that`ll somewhat help you establish a path for a given activity. Character sheet > skills >certificates>certification planner (if i remember correctly) |
Petra Alleile
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:23:00 -
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As a few-day-old newbie myself, I might as well mention what I'm doing. The game a lot to wrap your head around and the learning curve is pretty steep. I haven't even thought about joining a player corp yet. Right now I'm training for the Core Competency Basic cert and doing the Career Agent missions. The career agent missions give you a good idea of what you might like to do. They also give you a lot of room to fail in safe space while still learning how to fly and fight. If you accidentally get into low sec or null sec and don't have the ship for it, you're gone and you probably won't have the ISK to get back what you lost.
The only advice I have is don't feel like you have to rush. But maybe you're the type who likes to dive right in. I dunno. |
Maire Gheren
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
51
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:26:00 -
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Petra Alleile wrote: If you accidentally get into low sec or null sec and don't have the ship for it, you're gone and you probably won't have the ISK to get back what you lost..
That's why "the right ship" for exploring low/nullsec for the first few times is a cheap t1 banger fitted for pvp with low meta junk that makes for a lossmail comfortably in the middle six digits. |
Phae Rose
Void Investments
Invictus Void
0
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:30:00 -
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The eve uni wiki has an article on the subject of isk-making specialization. Even if you don't know what direction to go in the long run, it can't hurt to try some of those things. |
Solai
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
34
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:36:00 -
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Shop for a corp.
Make sure that their newbie training program is rigorous, not lax.
Make sure they've got decent numbers, at least 15 people or more during your primetime.
Push them to help you find a niche to fill, a task to do as a prerequisite to joining. Figure out, with them, what sorta sounds good to you, so that they can then TELL you what to do. Some people may take issue with that. But the fact is it's very easy to feel rudderless, and sometimes being told what to do can help a new player get over that initial hump. Newbies are priceless commodities to be invested in. I you feel adrift and aimless in your corp, you will probably benefit from finding one that will give you a strong gale.
And remember this: Eve is not about Missions and Mining. It's about corporations. |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground
Side Effect.
1779
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:50:00 -
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Sura Sa wrote:So I read up on this game, was playing wow, thought I'll give the trial of this a go. Created this dude and now have no clue what to do. I mean there realy is no hint really about creating a "class" for want of a better phrase. Am I a miner? A bounty hunter, pirate? WTH am I? Is there a website that gives me a "build" or advice on how to head toward the aforementioned classes? Have I already made an error with my race choice? This game looks so epic its devoured me like a black hole eating a cheese sandwich.
1. Drop anything you learned from WoW. Driving a car and flying a plane are totally different though both are transportation methods.
2. You can do what ever you want as it is. If you want to mine, go mine. If you want to pvp, go pvp. If you want to do "x", go do "x".
3. There are no classes. Anybody can train any skill in game. You just have to find what you like and then get better in it.
4. You are what ever you want and what ever reputation you make for yourself.
5. Race doesnt matter but you looks and where you start. The slight difference in skills is cross trained in less then one day.
6. There are no "classes". You can be a logi pilot (healer) on sunday and a DPS guy on monday (or even 10 minutes later).
7. Learn the golden rules (see link above) and run ALL tutorial (career) agents. They give you a small taste of what eve has to offer.
8. Look at the swift and bitter link for more info on what you CAN do. But remember, if you want something that is not listed there but poasible within the game, you CAN do that too.
9. Find a corp or group of players that you can play with. Player corps can make you stay with the game due too having a community to be part of. They can help with questions etc. If you dont want a corp (yet), there are plenty of people you can contact for help in game or through an evemail or these forums.
10. Forget about WoW as it's unlike EvE in a lot (as in a metric **** load) ways.
If you have questions, dont be affraid to shoot me an evemail.
Jp
Edit:
11. Try anything that sparks your interest. You cant say you hate something unless you tried it. Most people that come to eve have to wonder around to find their niche and then evolve into that.
Old look
Corporation recruitment thread
Corporation Website |
Tomar Martens
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:51:00 -
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As an aside, after a break from the game I would like to:
"Do those Tutorial agents, all five of them."
but I can't seem to pick any of them up. They should be repeatable imho. |
Tomar Martens
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:52:00 -
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Sura Sa wrote:Tee Kay Solus wrote: make you less annoyed should some unpleasantry occur :) A very nice way of saying ganking. From what I have read the whole of Eve is Stranglethorn Vale.
Yes - major ganking everywhere - either have to live with it or not play. |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground
Side Effect.
1779
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:56:00 -
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Tomar Martens wrote:As an aside, after a break from the game I would like to:
"Do those Tutorial agents, all five of them."
but I can't seem to pick any of them up. They should be repeatable imho.
Career agent is one time only.
Lucky for you, each race has 3 sets and running one set still makes it possible to do the others.
So theoretically you can do each career agent 12 times if you move around.
Old look
Corporation recruitment thread
Corporation Website |
Tomar Martens
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.12.31 00:01:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Tomar Martens wrote:As an aside, after a break from the game I would like to:
"Do those Tutorial agents, all five of them."
but I can't seem to pick any of them up. They should be repeatable imho. Career agent is one time only. Lucky for you, each race has 3 sets and running one set still makes it possible to do the others. So theoretically you can do each career agent 12 times if you move around.
Ah - didn't know that - thanks for the info. |
Rache Bartmoss
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2013.01.04 08:34:00 -
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Tomar Martens wrote:As an aside, after a break from the game I would like to:
"Do those Tutorial agents, all five of them."
but I can't seem to pick any of them up. They should be repeatable imho.
They are, but you may have to petition them as stuck and then they will be reset for you (if you flew them more than 3 months ago) |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
551
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Posted - 2013.01.04 11:12:00 -
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Think in play styles, not so much in actions.
Solo or teamwork
small group or large alliances
pve, pvp or piracy
build or destroy
out in the open or sneaky
wealth or power (or both)
So if you like solo pve and have isk as a goal for now then your path will have certain options including missions, exploration and trading for instance. If you want teamwork pve then there's incursions or Wormhole life. Would you like solo piracy then there's many options for that. Would you like to be a sneaky ******* making long term plans to take down people who annoy you then there's many options for that. Perhaps you like the idea of "crafting" and people flying around in ships you built, perhaps you want to become an influential trader. It's all possible.
It takes a while to adapt from the attraction park MMO stuff we've all been force fed for years and fully realise the options you have in a true sandbox. The time in between (which is where you are now) will be filled with "wtf am I doing?". Just realise that it's a phase to go through, many folks never make that step and keep sticking to "must mine" or "must run lvl 4 missions" but if you make the mind leap (which isn't very difficult) to the next step you'll find that there's almost no limits other than your own effort and willingness to succeed. Per one of EVE's teaser videos, you could be leading massive pvp fleets into glorious battles, if you have the aptitude for it and it could be sooner than you think if you do it right.
So, pick a playstyle you'll want to be doing the next few weeks and adapt (if needed) to a new play style after that and then plan for a few months tops. As long as you don't know what you can do it makes no sense to make long term plans so keep it simple, read a lot and ask tons of questions (while realising that most ppl aren't as knowledgeable at EVE as they pretend to be).
Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |
Reiisha
Evolution
The Retirement Club
195
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Posted - 2013.01.04 11:24:00 -
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As other people have mentioned already, join a player corp!
Most, if not all inspiration on 'what to do' comes from other people in the game, whether it's just observing or joining in with them. Joining a player corp is pretty much mandatory unless you already have a clear idea on what you want to do.
EVE University is not a bad place to start if you started playing EVE on your own. |
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