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Freya Selene	Posted - 2005.06.09 19:22:00 - [61] Originally by: Trina Tron Originally by: Wardog 1 2005.04.26 15:04:00 Victim: AsianSuperfly Corporation: Lordless wow so uh were posting out of date kill mails so we can think were cool? I think the confusion started when someone explained his logoff tactics as a "raid-0 failure" and showing logs that date 2 months back........
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2005.06.09 19:53:00 - [62] Hey, get back on topic. This thread is about sexual innuendo. "Polecat" sounds kind of kinky if you know what I mean and I think you do.
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2005.06.09 21:22:00 - [63] <Insert an attempt at being funny with relation to the question Remedial has posed>
Kane Mercy	Posted - 2005.06.09 21:22:00 - [64] Originally by: Kage Getsu <Insert statement of approval for Remedial's choice of dessert here>
Dentara Rast	Posted - 2005.06.09 21:24:00 - [65] Originally by: Kage Getsu <Insert remark with the intent of provoking Dentara to write another essay here> lets cut the smacktalk and flamefest. You think you won, everyone knows we won, so tell you what Issue a war declaration Instead of hiding behind alts and trying to mess up rast corp, show the entire community of eve what great pvpers you are and wipe us out The only corp that makes me money is ironopolis engineering and transorbital dynamics, and there closed doors, so dont worry about this one losing isk. Rast corp costs me isk anyways, but im not bothered as I want to put something back into the game. Prove to the whole community Kage you lordless guys are the uber. I await the war declaration
Dentara Rast	Posted - 2005.06.09 21:26:00 - [66] Originally by: Turretson Dentara you are pathetic, you've threatened logs and video about 4 times now, but have come up with nothing. Why? There's no reason for you to hold them back. Either the logs arent there or you haven't finished forging them yet. I would put nothing past your willingness to keep up the inane version of events you've been spouting. If you want them ill post them here. Quote this on your next pointless post and ill follow with the links
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2005.06.09 21:28:00 - [67] <Insert question of Dentara's sanity here> <And here's some kind of taunting insult>
Monstrous Issue	Posted - 2005.06.09 21:31:00 - [68] You sure can put an 'interesting spin' on the facts Dentara. Fair dues.
CitzNo 097864	Posted - 2005.06.09 21:38:00 - [69] Edited by: CitzNo 097864 on 09/06/2005 21:54:03 As meaningless as this is now, I had a pretty good feeling you were leading us into a trap, and I wasn't alone. But since we did show up you did a good job tricking us, even if we didn't have any losses during it. To simplify why I think Rast "won" the war: If you have ever played a game of mercy you know that you're trying to put your opponentÆs hand in a painful enough position for him/her to up. We may have broken every one of Rast's fingers but in the end we still gave up before they did. Also, this is in no way an attempt to get rid of my bounty. I enjoy a little risk when I'm playing a game and if I get attacked because of it I'll just laugh it off. Its only a game.
Dentara Rast	Posted - 2005.06.09 22:00:00 - [70] Originally by: CitzNo 097864 Edited by: CitzNo 097864 on 09/06/2005 21:54:03 As meaningless as this is now, I had a pretty good feeling you were leading us into a trap, and I wasn't alone. But since we did show up you did a good job tricking us, even if we didn't have any losses during it. To simplify why I think Rast "won" the war: If you have ever played a game of mercy you know that you're trying to put your opponentÆs hand in a painful enough position for him/her to up. We may have broken every one of Rast's fingers but in the end we still gave up before they did. Also, this is in no way an attempt to get rid of my bounty. I enjoy a little risk when I'm playing a game and if I get attacked because of it I'll just laugh it off. Its only a game. Well said citzno. I applaud you honesty and you have my respect.
Dentara Rast	Posted - 2005.06.09 22:12:00 - [71] Aftermath of the first battle. None of the other members would accept a convo from me so i contacted virgil who accepted..... [ 2005.04.27 19:15:31 ] Virgil Aquilis > Oh hi Dentara [ 2005.04.27 19:15:49 ] Dentara Rast > the surrender fee is 1 billion and the name of your contact [ 2005.04.27 19:16:11 ] Dentara Rast > learn your lessonyou are newbiies [ 2005.04.27 19:16:16 ] Virgil Aquilis > Be sure to congratulate your fleet. Nice work. I guess you didn't make it back in time. [ 2005.04.27 19:16:24 ] Dentara Rast > i was there :) [ 2005.04.27 19:16:50 ] Dentara Rast > got it all on fraps [ 2005.04.27 19:17:01 ] Dentara Rast > we have been testing you the last few days [ 2005.04.27 19:17:03 ] Virgil Aquilis > Oh, on that alt of yours. Right. [ 2005.04.27 19:17:15 ] Dentara Rast > shame about the mega [ 2005.04.27 19:17:19 ] Dentara Rast > i like them [ 2005.04.27 19:17:25 ] Virgil Aquilis > Uh-huh. And you decided to test us with an 8v4? [ 2005.04.27 19:17:31 ] Dentara Rast > yep [ 2005.04.27 19:17:36 ] Dentara Rast > no before that [ 2005.04.27 19:17:46 ] Dentara Rast > with frigates and cruisers [ 2005.04.27 19:17:53 ] Dentara Rast > silly ships [ 2005.04.27 19:18:07 ] Dentara Rast > the proper war started 20 mins ago [ 2005.04.27 19:18:15 ] Dentara Rast > now you know what your dealing with [ 2005.04.27 19:18:21 ] Dentara Rast > you were warned [ 2005.04.27 19:18:51 ] Virgil Aquilis > You won the first battle. We were totally overconfident and unorganized. [ 2005.04.27 19:18:58 ] Dentara Rast > yup [ 2005.04.27 19:19:06 ] Dentara Rast > never underestimate your enemy [ 2005.04.27 19:19:18 ] Virgil Aquilis > So the first battle goes to you. Congrats. The war is far from over, though. [ 2005.04.27 19:20:10 ] Virgil Aquilis > This was fun ^_^ [ 2005.04.27 19:20:22 ] Dentara Rast > 1 billion surrender fee and the name of your employer [ 2005.04.27 19:20:29 ] Dentara Rast > or else the war is indefinate [ 2005.04.27 19:20:36 ] Dentara Rast > think it over [ 2005.04.27 19:20:39 ] Dentara Rast > :) [ 2005.04.27 19:20:40 ] Virgil Aquilis > Uh-huh. We'll keep that in mind. [ 2005.04.27 19:20:48 ] Dentara Rast > bye for now
Turretson	Posted - 2005.06.09 22:16:00 - [72] Originally by: Dentara Rast Originally by: Turretson Dentara you are pathetic, you've threatened logs and video about 4 times now, but have come up with nothing. Why? There's no reason for you to hold them back. Either the logs arent there or you haven't finished forging them yet. I would put nothing past your willingness to keep up the inane version of events you've been spouting. If you want them ill post them here. Quote this on your next pointless post and ill follow with the links Thats like the fifth time, stop threatening and post em.
Olympa Matar	Posted - 2005.06.09 22:19:00 - [73] hmpf I share the universe with bots.
Dentara Rast	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:01:00 - [74] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Dentara Rast, can you offer more intel on where these guys normal fly. Region information will do just fine. As well supply any information on typical ships they might fly would be helpful too. Just some input from me on the arguing going on between 2 parties. You were on top with the first post you made Dentara. Don't argue with them, just wait and hope the die. They have nothing to gain from arguing at the topic. I was posting some chat logs to show them what they asked for, and if required ill post the videos too of them getting owned by frigates and cruisers too. As for location they operate in the syndicate region mostly, however there obviously going to deny this. Convo me in game and ill provide more intel via eve mail. As for ships... Dionysus usually flys round in inty's although he sometimes uses the dominix. El mole's favorite ship is the raven, however wether he can afford on atm is a different matter, so its probably a ferox for him. Kage getsu is probably an alt of one of the other characters with the corp management skill as he was rarely seen in anything more than a frigate, but this could be due to him avoiding combat not certain on his ship abilities. The others mainly use battlecruisers, or tech 2 frigates. As for pvp ability, its very poor. Unless they out number you 5 to 1 they wont fight, and tend to stay docked if you show up with 2 bs or more. During the war those using battleships only seemed to use medium sized turret on them, so wether this was an indication of lacking skills, or lacking isk, im not sure. But as I said, convo me or send me mail, and ill get a location for you within 10 minutes or so either way. Happy hunting
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:17:00 - [75] Edited by: Kage Getsu on 10/06/2005 00:19:50 That's a lie. We were happy to fight in any situation where the enemy force is up to slightly larger than ours. Most of the times we didn't fight were 2-1 or better numerical odds in your side's favour. We were cowards in that case, according to you people. We were also cowards when we had more people than you. I don't understand, is the only way to not be a coward to come alone in an unarmed BS and let you guys blow me up and pod me? Edit: Medium turrets on BSes? The BSes we fielded were either missile-based or filled with cap draining and disruption. Actually, his whole post is so ful of lies that it looks to me like he wants to give out misinformation.
Entarii	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:19:00 - [76] Edited by: Entarii on 10/06/2005 00:19:31 Originally by: Dentara Rast ..tend to stay docked if you show up with 2 bs or more. That kind of makes this contract you proposed pretty pointless doesn't it? Unless you want 5 gigs of fraps footage of a station from different angles. :)
Yeep	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:22:00 - [77] Originally by: Dentara Rast ...frigates and cruisers... ...battleships only seemed to use medium sized turret on them... Surely medium turrets are a much better idea if you know you're going up against frigates and cruisers. Being reasonably new to the corp I've tried not to take sides but when you contradict yourself in the same post it makes me think.
Dentara Rast	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:23:00 - [78] Originally by: Entarii Edited by: Entarii on 10/06/2005 00:19:31 Originally by: Dentara Rast ..tend to stay docked if you show up with 2 bs or more. That kind of makes this contract you proposed pretty pointless doesn't it? Unless you want 5 gigs of fraps footage of a station from different angles. :) True if your at war, but there always going to go on their mining trips for some isk to cover there impending losses, or go on there level 3 secdurity missions, so there will be plenty of opportunity to take them out
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:25:00 - [79] Edited by: Kage Getsu on 10/06/2005 00:28:31 Mining? We can do whatever we want in this corp, as otherwise would contradict the name, but as far as I know, none of my members choose to mine. Edit: And what's wrong with making money? "I don't think I'll ever lose a ship ever again, so I choose not to do anything to add isk to my wallet." Even a PVP God like you knows that money is always good to have.
Dentara Rast	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:34:00 - [80] Originally by: Yeep Originally by: Dentara Rast ...frigates and cruisers... ...battleships only seemed to use medium sized turret on them... Surely medium turrets are a much better idea if you know you're going up against frigates and cruisers. Being reasonably new to the corp I've tried not to take sides but when you contradict yourself in the same post it makes me think. obviously you have more brains than they did to see this, but with them it was lack of combat experience. When RAST and POLECATS attacked them in jita and got their bs's scrambled they returned fire on our bs's with med turrets. When they attacked with their "firepower" nothing bigger than a medium turret weapon was used. We made our first combat assessment based on this and used it in our attacks on them. They hadnt changed their setups in any fight anyway so this lead us to believe that they either couldnt aford bigger guns, couldnt use bigger guns, or were just too stupid to realise we were testing there firepower and didnt change setup.
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:37:00 - [81] Dude, we didn't use turrets on BSes. We went in with missile launchers and nosferatu and cap destroyers. Of course, you wouldn't know the difference, leading your men into battle in your mighty Tristan.
Dentara Rast	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:41:00 - [82] Edited by: Dentara Rast on 10/06/2005 00:44:21 Originally by: Kage Getsu Dude, we didn't use turrets on BSes. We went in with missile launchers and nosferatu and cap destroyers. Of course, you wouldn't know the difference, leading your men into battle in your mighty Tristan. Ya i warp scrambled and webbed one of your bs in my tristan, and 30 secs later that bs went boom after the damage dealers warped in and fed it some torpedoes. I didnt get nos'd or cap destroyed. the only nos'ing being done was me on the bs to sustain my cap and my mwd whilst I scrambled and webbed it. Yeah you fired missiles, but they were pretty useless trying to hit a group of frigates using mwd and orbiting you faster than the missiles fly.
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:46:00 - [83] I noticed that you aren't trying to refute any of my points I made in prior posts.
Cally	Posted - 2005.06.10 00:49:00 - [84] Originally by: Kage Getsu Dude, we didn't use turrets on BSes. We went in with missile launchers and nosferatu and cap destroyers. Of course, you wouldn't know the difference, leading your men into battle in your mighty Tristan. why does he put himself through this? does he realise how pathetic he looks? Why doesnt he just stop being childish, and take his defeat with dignity like citzno did? Oh and an apology for flaming rast's recruitment thread should be in order too..
Big McHuge	Posted - 2005.06.10 03:18:00 - [85] Edited by: Big McHuge on 10/06/2005 03:18:23 :page10snypa: <posting chatlogs on the internet> Sup Lordless buddies. You have my sword!
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.06.10 03:20:00 - [86]
Remedial	Posted - 2005.06.10 05:07:00 - [87] Edited by: Remedial on 10/06/2005 05:07:54 Edited by: Remedial on 10/06/2005 05:07:31 From what I recall, I lost a cheap heavy nos setup Mega and about half a dozen thoraxes in a week long period, and destroyed seven ferox/cyclone/brutixes solo, half a dozen caracals solo, a couple of frigates, had assists on two crows (one with a gisti MWD), an assist a harpy with a fairly expensive setup, and two assists on battleships: a tempest and a megathron both owned by Polecats. At one point in the war I was outside in my thorax and I challenged Bendmaster to a 1v1, with him in a ferox. He undocked with friends in a catalyst, caracal, and him in his ferox. Instead of running I fought all three, blew up the destroyer and cruiser, and got the ferox into structure before I finally blew up. I got a round of applause from the DNA guys watching and a bunch of smack talk about how much I sucked from Bendmaster. One day later we killed Necromnomicon in his riced out Raven and split about 800M in isk between the participants. The next day some other Lordless destroyed his megathron with the help of a covert ops friend. Later in the war, about 10 people left Rast for various other corps like Imperial Empire mining, and I decided to retract the war against those Rast subsidiaries if they promised to leave Ishisomo. It was about this time that Dentara hired the Bob0s, and we decided it wasn't worth spending more money on the war even though nobody in Rast was really mining to any extent and Polecats didn't even bother logging on to fight DNA. So we had a corp chat and retracted, and I suppose that means Rast gets to declare victory - but it's a pyrrhic victory in every sense of the word. Numerically, the aggregate cost of lost ships versus loot was clearly on their side; we picked up nearly a billion isk in loot from one guy after all, and that more than paid for any expenses we incurred during fighting. More importantly the entire mining operation Rast depended on was ground to a halt for about a week, long enough to drive about a quarter to a third of the active membership away, and intense enough to prevent most of them from ever undocking. So we spent money, made it back on a lucky kill, and declined to pursue the war after it became apparent Dentara would rather sell every newbie in his entire corp down the pvp river rather than pay us the 150M we wanted to end the war. I'm not posting here to start flaming or anything, but the record really does need to be set straight on the facts of the war, and not on hyperbole by either side.
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.06.10 07:20:00 - [88] Originally by: Kyogen Steiner Originally by: Typherin laidai Originally by: Kyogen Steiner Originally by: Serilla haha kill the griefers.. attacking poor 1-2 month old newbs. so sad. i wonder how many people you have made quit the game for your actions... Yes and i think this proves a valualbe point. No matter how good you think you are, one day, you will pick on someone that can hurt you more What and alliances & megacorps dont attack people smaller than them ? give me a break Attacking those smaller than you is the natural food chain is it not ? if these 1-2 month old noobs as you put it cant defend themselves or get others to do it for them then they need to consider a different corp. (and I think that comment is bs tbh unless you can bring me a list of all the members theyve dec'd and their in-game ages) If theyre making money and enjoying the game who gives a flying ** what you think ! they pay money to play the same as the rest of us and theyre not breaking rules. Stfu tbh Having your period again Typherin? Whats BS about my comment? If a corp goes around and picks on people/corps, eventually, he will get his ass kicked for picking on the wrong person. Its not BS, its simple logic. Shouldnt be that hard to understand. I never said that megacorps nor alliances shouldnt attack smaler corps/alliances. Learn how to read before you open your mouth I have to say im very supprised by your sudden outbreak of nonsense, but if you wish to rude, i will of course change level of conversation. urrr who are you ? Ive made bold the original bit I was talking about... sorry I couldn't be assed to scroll back to read the thread you quoted from. hehe wasn't on about your comment Il try to make it more clear in future And whats wrong with outbursts of nonsense Typherin Care Negotitation Expert level 5 Originally by:** Eris Discordia gives Typherin some loving
Josiah Bartlet	Posted - 2005.06.10 10:27:00 - [89] Too long, didn't read.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2005.06.10 13:52:00 - [90] Locked for flaming I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.

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