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Varren Dar'khel
Starforged Ascendancy
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Posted - 2011.10.08 03:24:00 -
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Found this one earlier today.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/201981886537408/
Just curious what people think. I happen to agree wholeheartedly. |
VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.08 03:42:00 -
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Varren Dar'khel wrote:Just curious what people think.
I don't think most people give this any thought at all. There is no consequence beyond the obvious. Those who know/follow him knew it was coming. |
Varren Dar'khel
Starforged Ascendancy
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Posted - 2011.10.08 03:46:00 -
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Well, either way. I am happy man. |
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
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Posted - 2011.10.08 03:48:00 -
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While I do agree with many things said about him and I have no love of Apple products or the company, I just can't wish ill will on someone like him. He did, for better or worst (more worst if you ask me), change the world in a way.
Now, anyone taking bets on how long Apple can survive as a company? Surrender is still your slightly less painful option. |
Varren Dar'khel
Starforged Ascendancy
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Posted - 2011.10.08 03:52:00 -
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Marie Hartinez wrote:While I do agree with many things said about him and I have no love of Apple products or the company, I just can't wish ill will on someone like him. He did, for better or worst (more worst if you ask me), change the world in a way.
Now, anyone taking bets on how long Apple can survive as a company?
Maybe a year, if Tim Cook can manage that long. |
Myxx
Atropos Group Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2011.10.08 04:06:00 -
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if you were truly happy, you would need to announce it to the world.
oh, and wishing ill on anyone is stupid. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.08 04:33:00 -
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I liked him, he made computers for people that couldn't use real computers.
Of course I know nothing about the guy or what he did, but he was in charge of making those things with the apple on them! |
Varren Dar'khel
Starforged Ascendancy
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Posted - 2011.10.08 05:04:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I liked him, he made computers for people that couldn't use real computers.
Of course I know nothing about the guy or what he did, but he was in charge of making those things with the apple on them!
People who can't use a real computers don't need a computer. If someone can't be bothered to learn how to do something right **** them. Idiot proof technology, with all this focus on accessibility, and user friendliness is ******* stupid.
I remember the days of MS-DOS, I remember when you actually had to have a brain to even turn on a computer. I remember the days when the internet was truly a new frontier, when hacking and programming took skill and knowledge.
All you do when making anything easier to get is let a lower class of diots use something that they should have no right to even touch.
Essentially get a brain learn how to use a real ******* computer, learn how computers work, learn the damn difference between RAM, ROM, SSDs, and maybe just maybe I'll agree you should use a computer.
As long as we focus on making things idiot proof, we invite a substandard group of people to a realm where they don't belong.
Form over function is a waste, catering to people who will only use .5% of a computer's capability is a waste. And robbing truly knowledgeable people of ways to access, change, reprogram, and perform basic maintenance for the sake of keeping a bunch of idiots from ******* up their machines due to ignorance is ******* wrong. |
Dannerkongen
1st Recon
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Posted - 2011.10.08 05:05:00 -
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iDIED-« |
VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.08 05:37:00 -
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Varren Dar'khel wrote: ARRGGGHHH GRRRRR BLAAAAHHH
You're wrong. You're stupid. Steve Jobs was amazing. We should make a memorial.
Now go ahead and type the other twenty pages of strong opinion you have just waiting to explode inside you. Then we can let the thread die.
Don't you know this is what blogs are for? You don't need random forum people who care little for your topic. You can just type to your heart's content and label your opinions with tags and keywords. Then people who feel strongly one way or the other will find it and give you that attention you crave. |
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Vachir Khan
TriSeq Defence Group
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Posted - 2011.10.08 05:46:00 -
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VKhaun Vex wrote:Varren Dar'khel wrote: ARRGGGHHH GRRRRR BLAAAAHHH You're wrong. You're stupid. Steve Jobs was amazing. We should make a memorial. Now go ahead and type the other twenty pages of strong opinion you have just waiting to explode inside you. Then we can let the thread die. Don't you know this is what blogs are for? You don't need random forum people who care little for your topic. You can just type to your heart's content and label your opinions with tags and keywords. Then people who feel strongly one way or the other will find it and give you that attention you crave.
DISCUSSION forum?
While I do agree that the "raah he's the devil he must die" is a bit... dumb, telling someone off because he posted an opinion on the OOPE forum is hilarious.
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.10.08 05:52:00 -
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Vachir Khan wrote:VKhaun Vex wrote:Varren Dar'khel wrote: ARRGGGHHH GRRRRR BLAAAAHHH You're wrong. You're stupid. Steve Jobs was amazing. We should make a memorial. Now go ahead and type the other twenty pages of strong opinion you have just waiting to explode inside you. Then we can let the thread die. Don't you know this is what blogs are for? You don't need random forum people who care little for your topic. You can just type to your heart's content and label your opinions with tags and keywords. Then people who feel strongly one way or the other will find it and give you that attention you crave. DISCUSSION forum? While I do agree that the "raah he's the devil he must die" is a bit... dumb, telling someone off because he posted an opinion on the OOPE forum is hilarious.
Wanna bet he is going to write twenty pages about telling someone off?
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.08 06:16:00 -
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Vachir Khan wrote:While I do agree that the "raah he's the devil he must die" is a bit... dumb, telling someone off because he posted an opinion on the OOPE forum is hilarious.
It's not that he posted an opinion, it's that he made a thread with a strong opinion but didn't come out with it. He wants someone to start for him like he needs an excuse to say it so he doesn't look loony toons for suddenly raging about a topic that doesn't deserve rage.
Alpheias wrote: Wanna bet he is going to write twenty pages about telling someone off?
Me? Or Vachir Khan? |
SpaceSquirrels
Scordite Excavating Xenaphobe
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Posted - 2011.10.08 07:30:00 -
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Immature **** move to be glad someone died of cancer. And then be an internet tough guy to boast about it. Dont have any real love for apple stuff, but I sure dont wish suffering over it. Because of apple completion was created thus pushing the rest of the industry to step it up. Also PIxar! Come on awesome movies.
Probably need to question yourself if you actual take joy in the suffering of someone who died from pancreatic cancer. Especially from someone who didnt have it coming. EG: a mass murdering, child molesting, intolerant ******* etc.
Too reiterate Im not a fan of apple in the least bit, but doesnt mean I care to see people who do like the stuff or flaunt it death and suffering.
TL DR. That's ****** up. |
JordanParey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.10.08 09:06:00 -
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I don't see the tragedy or sadness in his death. A bit young, yeah, but the man had money coming out the wazoo and most likely spent his last days comfortably zonked on painkillers after a fulfilling and interesting life.
I'm far from being happy or glad about it, but it gets a wholehearted "meh" from me. His death affects me in absolutely no way personally. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2011.10.08 09:09:00 -
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JordanParey wrote:I don't see the tragedy or sadness in his death. A bit young, yeah, but the man had money coming out the wazoo and most likely spent his last days comfortably zonked on painkillers after a fulfilling and interesting life.
I'm far from being happy or glad about it, but it gets a wholehearted "meh" from me. His death affects me in absolutely no way personally. in all honesty, this. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Varren Dar'khel
Starforged Ascendancy
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:36:00 -
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SpaceSquirrels wrote:Immature **** move to be glad someone died of cancer. And then be an internet tough guy to boast about it. Dont have any real love for apple stuff, but I sure dont wish suffering over it. Because of apple completion was created thus pushing the rest of the industry to step it up. Also PIxar! Come on awesome movies.
Probably need to question yourself if you actual take joy in the suffering of someone who died from pancreatic cancer. Especially from someone who didnt have it coming. EG: a mass murdering, child molesting, intolerant ******* etc.
Too reiterate Im not a fan of apple in the least bit, but doesnt mean I care to see people who do like the stuff or flaunt it death and suffering.
TL DR. That's ****** up.
It not his death that makes me happy, and I sure hope he went through as little pain as possible. But I won't lie, I am glad he is gone.
Perhaps I could've phrased my OP a little more gently.
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KaarBaak
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Posted - 2011.10.08 13:32:00 -
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It's funny. People like to make references to Apple products and their users as nearly religious fanatics. Ironically, hardcore tech types that believe technology belongs solely in the hands of the people who are properly trained and intelligent enough to understand it are more like the priests of the Catholic church before the establishment of the Protestant churches. Only the truly enlightened and those closest to their God were permitted to talk with Him. All of the "common" people were expected to go through the priests for access.
A lot of the current generation of tech "priests" see themselves as possessing the same sort of exclusive access/knowledge. They are jealous of this power and get defensive when common people deign to access the same. Steve Jobs, in a way broke through those barriers and helped bring computing to everyday users. The democratization of computing is/was a good thing. Withholding knowledge/access is a Dark Ages way of thinking. Enlightenment can only come from ubiquitous access.
All that said, Steve Jobs wasn't altogether altruistic...anyone who steps into an Apple store has seen the price of that democratization...and it ain't cheap. He was a capitalist if ever there was one...creating the highest value corporation in the world.
Personally, I don't think Apple will last in it's current position without him.
KB
PS. I'm sure the Pope was happy when Martin Luther died as well. |
Mercurye
Nubian Sundance
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:15:00 -
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Yes, it's a bit like the reaction EVE'rs tend to have towards WoW, and vice versa, each thinking they are the holy grail when it comes to gaming and the community. They aren't but they are too blind to see it |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:34:00 -
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Wishing ill on anyone is just wrong. I never liked Apple products mainly because of how fanatical people have become about it and because of how Apple teamed up with Microsoft in order to eliminate Google as their competitor (patent wars), but that doesn't mean Steve Jobs didn't change the world for the better. If it wasn't for him, we would never have seen the tablet and smartphone market take off the way it did (among many other things like personal computers, etc.). |
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Froz3nEcho Sarain
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
96
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Posted - 2011.10.08 19:11:00 -
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Varren Dar'khel wrote:SpaceSquirrels wrote:Immature **** move to be glad someone died of cancer. And then be an internet tough guy to boast about it. Dont have any real love for apple stuff, but I sure dont wish suffering over it. Because of apple completion was created thus pushing the rest of the industry to step it up. Also PIxar! Come on awesome movies.
Probably need to question yourself if you actual take joy in the suffering of someone who died from pancreatic cancer. Especially from someone who didnt have it coming. EG: a mass murdering, child molesting, intolerant ******* etc.
Too reiterate Im not a fan of apple in the least bit, but doesnt mean I care to see people who do like the stuff or flaunt it death and suffering.
TL DR. That's ****** up. It not his death that makes me happy, and I sure hope he went through as little pain as possible. But I won't lie, I am glad he is gone. Perhaps I could've phrased my OP a little more gently.
You sir... Really need to get a life or need to get laid. Chose one. Being happy about the death of someone because he brought some product on the marked which you don't like because they take away the boundaries between common people and computers so you feel less superior?
The value of a mans life doesn't change if he created a new brand or company. And you guys are sick in the head for saying that this man should be dead. But what am I talking about? Like Steve Jobs would care or would have cared about you puny persons. His achievements will be not forgotten in 100 years or so. Try to beat that while living in a basement.
~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~ -á-á~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~ |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
76
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Posted - 2011.10.08 21:01:00 -
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Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:
You sir... Really need to get a life or need to get laid. Chose one. Being happy about the death of someone because he brought some product on the marked which you don't like because they take away the boundaries between common people and computers so you feel less superior?
The value of a mans life doesn't change if he created a new brand or company. And you guys are sick in the head for saying that this man should be dead. But what am I talking about? Like Steve Jobs would care or would have cared about you puny persons. His achievements will be not forgotten in 100 years or so. Try to beat that while living in a basement.
I think Steve Jobs does an excellent job of not caring, especially now that he is dead so I think you should really get laid, with all that tension and frustration inside you. Speaking of Jobs, and since you care, I think you should join him. But let's not wait for you to get cancer as it has proven itself to be unreliable.
I do hope you livestream it though.
GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:18:00 -
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When it comes down to it, some guy I did not know die. Happens all the time. And I do not feel anything about it, tho I can relate to his relatives and family and the sadness they must feel.
It is more sad that many people die of starvation in Africa each day, for instance. |
Nak hak
18
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:50:00 -
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Steve Jobs Stanford Commencement Speech 2005
"We look at what our players do and less of what they say."
Best Regards, Nak hak |
Nak hak
18
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:56:00 -
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Steve Jobs Stanford Commencement Speech 2005
"We look at what our players do and less of what they say."
Best Regards, Nak hak |
Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
169
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:31:00 -
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Well i know this will sound heartless, but i too am glad he is dead.
His absolute obsession about propriatory coding, apps and hardware is so backwards and has pushed Apple Inc to such an area that if their fan base dies, they have nothing to fall back on. [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |
Something Random
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:55:00 -
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I cant stand Apples ethos in owning everything they make and that goes on to their hardware - in otherwords cant stand Apples marketing side.
Hardware is lovely though.
That said... Speaking ill of the dead etc. The guy was a Billionaire - and you are ? |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
25
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:32:00 -
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Varren Dar'khel wrote:nerd rage stuff
I look forward to your forum post when the owner of Ford dies. You will no doubt go onto complain that he helped produce cars that made it easier to own and drive a vehicle.
You will probably then make remarks that owners of cars need to understand exactly how cars work and be able to fix them all by themselves.
And if they don't, then they are low IQ morons who shouldn't be let anywhere near cars?
Tell you what, you can carry on driving this and I'll look forward to driving this
'kin myopic neanderthal "Combat in New Eden is either a blob or a work of art...let me paint you a picture" |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
5
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Posted - 2011.10.10 02:12:00 -
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Seems harsh to wish a guy dead because you dislike Apple. |
Valhallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.10 11:07:00 -
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Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:
You sir... Really need to get a life or need to get laid. Chose one. Being happy about the death of someone because he brought some product on the marked which you don't like because they take away the boundaries between common people and computers so you feel less superior?
The value of a mans life doesn't change if he created a new brand or company. And you guys are sick in the head for saying that this man should be dead. But what am I talking about? Like Steve Jobs would care or would have cared about you puny persons. His achievements will be not forgotten in 100 years or so. Try to beat that while living in a basement.
I bolded the part that really sums this guy up, just another selfish billionaire that didn't give a **** about anyone else.
The only reason this guy parted with ANY money at all was to try and improve the image of himself or apple.
He may have changed the world, but the motivation was only to make money.
People that are remembered 100 years after death changed the world for the benefit of others.
HEY STEVE, here's an idea, why not throw some money at cancer research, Oh too late, never mind
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