To answer the questions in the OP: If you want to learn fleet combat, unless you are in one of the few fleet roles that require a bit of independent thinking (Dics/Ewar), you had best get used to being micromanaged, at least during ops. Start with Eve Uni.

That is why! I found the awnser! Now give a cookie.

Goons are teribad at fleets :) lol
If you want to pvp, open eve-kill find your self a crop that is active in your time zone and give it a try

might be worth the week I'd need to spend to fly those, along with HACs and such. I'll need to look at my EVEmon plan.

Dictors are great. It is really worthwhile to train at least 2 flavors. Sabre for Small Gang, and Flycatcher or Eris for fleets. 10mn AB Dictors are wonderfully fun to fly. You even occasionally survive to drop more bubbles after you bubble their fleet.

HICs are also fun to fly.

HICs and DICs. Fun to fly as it's fun to say.

You mean my passive drake is no longer OP for PvP fleets? Say it ain't so!

Lol, :tenbux:

Why the hell would I bother? I've known I wasn't eligible for the goons since i first made this toon back in 06. same for TEST and a few other web community groups.

Plus while it would be fun to drag out the scammer pitch for maximum LULz and post it here... too much work.

You're not eligible for Goonwaffe or Dreddit.
Nearly every other corp in the CFC and HBC, including corps in GSF and TEST, takes applications and doesn't require membership to some external website. I was a highsec carebear who ran incursions and very occasionally dabbled in PVP. I got into my current corp just fine.

It was a fairly easy process, too. They asked me for my full API, gave me a short questionnaire on their website (multiple choice questions like "what do you do when the FC says hold on the gate", "what do you do if FC tells you to jump into a suicidal situation", that sort of thing. I spent a couple days talking to them in their public channel, quite informally. There was no heady interview. They outlined their requirements, I agreed to them, and they accepted my application.

null sec? You're sure about that?

Not everyone in nullsec is a micromanaging asshat. There are corps that don't do some of the batshit stuff you hear horror stories about, and i even doubt MOST corps are as bad as all the highseccers believe.

If you get caught and yer not blue and you get caught you get shot. We knew that already, it's an accepted fact of life. Moving along.

But I bear firmly in mind, step into a fleet, X up and your ass belongs to the FC until the op's done, your ass explodes or its time to log off. I'm ex-military, I can follow orders just fine. I just don't feel like having a mandate of "you will mine X ore" or, "you will go sit on this gate for the next six hours and do nothing but watch it" when there's nothing major hitting the fan. Got no problem volunteering, but I draw the line when someone tells me what my skill queue must look like at all times beyond reasonable minimum competencies or decdes how I will play the game I'm paying for from the moment I log on to the moment I log off.

Demanding that people not go out of their way to be idiotic isn't reasonable, nor is asking them to follow orders when you're engaging enemy caps or indulging a POS bash, or whatever. That's not micromanagement, it's teamwork.

I was going to write a complicated response about how alliances that take the attitude of "You WILL do X" tend to failscade fairly quickly under pressure, but then I realized that you're a troll.

:effort:

haha -A- is godawful.

if the alliance's name ends with "citizens", it's a renter.
Most nullsec renters are pretty upfront about the arrangement, seeing as they want to collect their dues to pay the landlord with.
So I suggest... asking them?

practicing for when It's my turn to send out rageposts about highsec should burn and needs to be nerfed.

Micromanaged is a vague term, and often used in an insulting fashion.

What sort of micromanaging are you trying to avoid?

Don't move to nullsec.


I'm there and I can't get out.



It's so damn boring.

Not everyone in nullsec is a micromanaging asshat. There are corps that don't do some of the batshit stuff you hear horror stories about, and i even doubt MOST corps are as bad as all the highseccers believe.

If you get caught and yer not blue and you get caught you get shot. We knew that already, it's an accepted fact of life. Moving along.

But I bear firmly in mind, step into a fleet, X up and your ass belongs to the FC until the op's done, your ass explodes or its time to log off. I'm ex-military, I can follow orders just fine. I just don't feel like having a mandate of "you will mine X ore" or, "you will go sit on this gate for the next six hours and do nothing but watch it" when there's nothing major hitting the fan. Got no problem volunteering, but I draw the line when someone tells me what my skill queue must look like at all times beyond reasonable minimum competencies or decdes how I will play the game I'm paying for from the moment I log on to the moment I log off.

Demanding that people not go out of their way to be idiotic isn't reasonable, nor is asking them to follow orders when you're engaging enemy caps or indulging a POS bash, or whatever. That's not micromanagement, it's teamwork.

Does Goonwaffe audit participation?
My corp requires everyone to have at least one active PVP toon. While you're on probation it's wise to go on as many fleets as you can, but once you become a full member they loosen up a bit. I've gone a month without joining fleets (albeit logging on almost every day) but they did start to grumble after a while.