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Species 8472	Posted - 2005.06.09 12:42:00 - [1] Now i have played for 2 Years and have always been honest but now i hear of Corruption within EVE Is this true thata group of Mercenaries not naming which corp got 5 POS in 2hrs thats destroyed POS in 2HRS Also you cannot say so much or say anything about ATUK as Some IDS will BAN u from Forumns or will make sure evrything that is seen herte is wiped. I have alot of formal complaints from alot of pple whom had made formal complaints but are are ignored i just like to state publicly that this should be notic3ed "The Weak Will Perish".
Cannedbeef	Posted - 2005.06.09 12:45:00 - [2] dunno if this counts as discussing moderation, but still this is one guys opinion.. dunno why they would want to snuff it out.
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.06.09 12:48:00 - [3] Originally by: Cannedbeef dunno if this counts as discussing moderation, but still this is one guys opinion.. dunno why they would want to snuff it out. Cos theyre mean !! Cept Eris ... /emote is in love Would still love to pop her dreadnaught though Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5 Originally by: Eris Discordia gives Typherin some loving
SinBin	Posted - 2005.06.09 12:51:00 - [4] Originally by: Species 8472 Now i have played for 2 Years and have always been honest but now i hear of Corruption within EVE Is this true thata group of Mercenaries not naming which corp got 5 POS in 2hrs thats destroyed POS in 2HRS Also you cannot say so much or say anything about ATUK as Some IDS will BAN u from Forumns or will make sure evrything that is seen herte is wiped. I have alot of formal complaints from alot of pple whom had made formal complaints but are are ignored i just like to state publicly that this should be notic3ed I also dunno what info ya have but the whole mail it in game is a good way that noone can keep track of & i only ever got 1 relpy & the was a m defending himself & anwsers nothing I had asked even after i reply to his personal addy still no responce. My foums are no realy used & we could start storing user complains & responces. This post aint here for log now soz but hard to dissucs our issue if we cant dissus. or if nothing to hide how about a fresh forum for complaints ? _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks Maybe end the election round will do it ? & could save hundred of Users & Mods pain.
Vee Bot	Posted - 2005.06.09 12:51:00 - [5] Originally by: Typherin laidai Originally by: Cannedbeef Cept Eris ... /emote is in love Would still love to pop her dreadnaught though Is that what we're calling it nowadays??? Cos i poped yo mommas dreadnaught last nite ;) ------------------ (_8(\|) BEWARE. EBIL HOMER. IF SPOTTED CALL THIS NUMBER 0-800-I-C-HOMER
Vee Bot	Posted - 2005.06.09 12:51:00 - [6] Originally by: Typherin laidai Originally by: Cannedbeef Cept Eris ... /emote is in love Would still love to pop her dreadnaught though Is that what we're calling it nowadays??? Cos i poped yo mommas dreadnaught last nite ;) ------------------ (_8(\|) BEWARE. EBIL HOMER. IF SPOTTED CALL THIS NUMBER 0-800-I-C-HOMER
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.06.09 12:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Vee Bot Originally by: Typherin laidai Originally by: Cannedbeef Cept Eris ... /emote is in love Would still love to pop her dreadnaught though Is that what we're calling it nowadays??? Cos i poped yo mommas dreadnaught last nite ;) If you had actually seen my momma you wouldn't be bragging about that m8 In fact... presuming you aint old youd be ashamed Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5 Originally by: Eris Discordia gives Typherin some loving
Vee Bot	Posted - 2005.06.09 12:55:00 - [8] Edited by: Vee Bot on 09/06/2005 12:58:23 Originally by: Typherin laidai Originally by: Vee Bot Originally by: Typherin laidai Originally by: Cannedbeef Cept Eris ... /emote is in love Would still love to pop her dreadnaught though Is that what we're calling it nowadays??? Cos i poped yo mommas dreadnaught last nite ;) If you had actually seen my momma you wouldn't be bragging about that m8 In fact... presuming you aint old youd be ashamed Lets just say she doesnt come in peace, and i left before paying! Thread hijacking 4tw! PS on topic it sux if the devs take anysides or help any of there normal accounts... ------------------ (_8(\|) BEWARE. EBIL HOMER. IF SPOTTED CALL THIS NUMBER 0-800-I-C-HOMER
Kaemonn	Posted - 2005.06.09 13:06:00 - [9] Do not discuss moderation on the forums. If you have any questions or concerns dont hesitate to ask us at [email protected] P.S. Lets get this thread back on track.
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.06.09 13:07:00 - [10] Quote: PS on topic it sux if the devs take anysides or help any of there normal accounts... The DEV's are gamers too, they made the game, I'm sure they will protect their own interests, even if means cheating the rest of the playerbase... Nothing we can do about it... We are playing with their toy... They can bend the rules I suppose... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Vee Bot	Posted - 2005.06.09 13:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Bhaal Quote: PS on topic it sux if the devs take anysides or help any of there normal accounts... The DEV's are gamers too, they made the game, I'm sure they will protect their own interests, even if means cheating the rest of the playerbase... Nothing we can do about it... We are playing with their toy... They can bend the rules I suppose... true but i pay ccp for an equal opertunity to play the game and have access to all the things all the other normal players get, i can handle not having my own personnel one-ova-kind dreadnaught ;) ------------------ (_8(\|) BEWARE. EBIL HOMER. IF SPOTTED CALL THIS NUMBER 0-800-I-C-HOMER
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:25:00 - [12] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Bhaal Quote: A dev will not abuse his ingame powers, period. If he does he faces dismissal, period. This crap ahs been dicussed to death over and over again, yet still we get crybabies that cant cope with losing something ingame. I'm not saying the original poster is correct in his assumptions, but do you honestly think that DEV's completely abide by the same restrictions that players do? I just can't believe that is 100% true... Bhaal, I have unmeasurable tolerance for a lot of things, but accusing any of my employees to be cheaters or abusing their position publicly without having any evidence to back it up is not one of those things. Consider this a warning. Either bring evidence or you will be banned by me personally. You're right, whoever said it. Angry Oveur = Scary.... "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:26:00 - [13] Edited by: Bhaal on 09/06/2005 14:28:30 Quote: I'm sure every dev char is known to those responsible for checking up on em. It's a simple matter of checking what those chars do ingame and you've prevented any real abuse like /commands and that kind of stuff. Knwoledge however cannot be checked on. But I'm sure the eve devs have the best intentions. If a dev would ever be caught abusing his position and if that information would subesequently leak, it would have some serious consequences for the game I'd expect. So I trust they handle things carefully. I'd like to hope you're right... Even the advanced knowledge & market monopolies etc would ** some ppl off to the point of quiting the game, etc... I'm just resigned to the fact this stuff might go on, and live with it... Not my game, nothing I can do about it... Quote:** Bhaal, I have unmeasurable tolerance for a lot of things, but accusing any of my employees to be cheaters or abusing their position publicly without having any evidence to back it up is not one of those things. Consider this a warning. Either bring evidence or you will be banned by me personally. I'm not accusing any one DEV of anything, don't even know any of their characters... I'm sorry... Just giving my take on things... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Karkazz	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Discorporation The thing is, if devs take advantage of their status, they lose their job. Would you cheat in a game, to lose your job? (Angry Oveur = scareh, I'm told :\|) Some devs arent easily replaceble especially in crunchtime so close to a big expansion and i really doubt that the security mecahnism that are put in place to keep gm¦s and such from abusing their power extends to devs. Just my humble oppinion.
Trooper B99	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:31:00 - [15] Dev's, GM's and Aurora staff all have higher resstrictions on their play style than regular people because of the abilities they have on special accounts. They are audited and suffer harsher penalties than players because of the trust AND contractual clauses they have violated. As oveur said: put up or shut up. And tbh, even if there is evidence then it should be passed on via petition, not bandied about on the public forums causing unrest in the player base. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Kami Kessie	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:34:00 - [16] Edited by: Kami Kessie on 09/06/2005 14:35:54 Originally by: Oveur Bhaal, I have unmeasurable tolerance for a lot of things, but accusing any of my employees to be cheaters or abusing their position publicly without having any evidence to back it up is not one of those things. Consider this a warning. Either bring evidence or you will be banned by me personally. Note: The same of course goes for everyone else here, including the original poster. God has spoken.
Stormfront	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:35:00 - [17] Edited by: Stormfront on 09/06/2005 14:38:38 This is there job, doubt they would risk losing it over a few more ISK in game. And for the one guy who did, the result was far from good. If you wish to call them unfair, plz do so by email. That way after 2-3 emails when they ban you, atleast you wont look like a complete fool on the forums :p Don't worry, I have recieved 2 warnings for not sending any more emails on closed matter. I'm a member of the [5] mind you. T20 gave all of [5] a 100 bajillion ISK btw. /me checks wallet sigh 7mil ISK and my ships are running outta insurance :(
NAFnist	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:42:00 - [18] I remember FA being accuised for favourtism aswell. I really really doubt it, but GM's, dev's and others are still human, but Im sure if anything like this is true it would eventually come out in the open, and appropriate measures taken. As the latest devblog testifies. _____________
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:46:00 - [19] evol got accused of being devs, m0o did, atuk did, uhm.. me and viceroy get accused of having insider ISD info because we like to crash events. its a common fact that big corps are likely to have one or two isd in them, maybe dev, just based on statistics.. but to say that has anything to do with their success is like trying to justify why you suck and can't be as good as them only god can do that. <3 oveur _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Hast	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:47:00 - [20] Originally by: Malken it is no secret that T20 have been frequenting atuks teamspeak alot. and atuk and 5 gets their ships replaced for basically just lag. but when others sit inside a friendly POS for days and then it starts shooting randomly those ppl gets the usual "we cant see anything in the logs" story. yay dual standards 4tw lets just say that the GM responses are different in our camp aswell. I wont go much further then say that I have never gotten a ship replaced, even when others in the same engagement has gotten one back... To say thay are biased towards us is vague at best... And remember when we were capturing stations and such? didnt see much help from the GM's back then
Gariuys	Posted - 2005.06.09 14:48:00 - [21] Edited by: Gariuys on 09/06/2005 14:50:27 Do you honestly believe, that Devs would abuse their power for a advantage in the world they've created? Ofcourse having knowledge no ordinary player has, has people making slightly different desisions then they would perhaps otherwise, but there's no way to prevent that, since it's not a conscious thing. But if you honestly believe people that have put so much into this game, to consciously abuse their position for a advantage in their game, risking both their own jobs, and losing a LOT of customers ( people don't take kindly to people having a unfair advantage in a MMOG ) you really need to get a clue. And the whole bloody rumour mill, people should learn to realise they're not the best there is, and that they can't do something doesn't mean it's impossible, it just means you ain't all you think. But that's too much to ask for for most human beings, if someone is better, he's got to have some unfair advantage right? Cause it's unthinkable that you yourself suck. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool

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