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Linia	Posted - 2005.06.09 13:59:00 - [1] Well as Occator is SUPREMELY slow you like just HAVE to put a mwd on it, my setup is: High: nada Medium: Cap Recharger I(or named or II) 10MN Microwarpdrive I (thinkin about II?) Low: 6x Expanders, (if 0.0 ill put armor rep on) Currently Training: Astrogeology V /Rank3/
Arciadian	Posted - 2005.06.09 16:09:00 - [2] Try putting a cloaking device in the high slot. it really comes in handy.
FCPORTO	Posted - 2005.07.04 14:55:00 - [3] how many m3 can the occator take with 27% expanders? iteronV i think its 27k m3 ?
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa	Posted - 2005.07.04 17:06:00 - [4] Edited by: Shan''Talasha Mea''Questa on 04/07/2005 17:06:47 Both with full Local Hull Expanders on low. Iteron Mark V: 25.211 m3 Occator: 26.774 m3 Edit: Naturally that is without using Giant Secure Containers.
Daniel Jackson	Posted - 2005.07.04 17:21:00 - [5] Iteron Mark V's base cargo space is 6,000, with skills +5% per gal indy skill lev = 25% that = 7,500 and with 5 27.44% expanders on not including cargo containers: 75001.2744^5 = 25211.0002873742 cargo space. Occator's base cargo space is 5,000, with skills +5% per gal indy skill lev = 25% that = 7,375 and with 6 27.44% expanders on not including cargo containers: 73751.2744^6 = 31593 cargo space. Math Done by: Kawasemi Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime! Image done by Denrace
RedClaws	Posted - 2005.07.04 17:23:00 - [6] why does everybody like the occator so much and not the impel?
Daniel Jackson	Posted - 2005.07.04 17:24:00 - [7] i guess cause of the all the thrusters on the back :P Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime! Image done by Denrace
FCPORTO	Posted - 2005.07.04 17:27:00 - [8] because most ppl trained for markV in the first place and now ccp made the amarr tech2 better, makes ppl wonder :)
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.07.04 18:02:00 - [9] Edited by: Grimpak on 04/07/2005 18:03:13 having that much of expanders gimps the ship's speed to an unbelivable level thou. oh and try to slap med cap batts instead the cap chargers. DS transports have a low warp range. ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Rocket Revenger	Posted - 2005.07.04 18:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Daniel Jackson Iteron Mark V's base cargo space is 6,000, with skills +5% per gal indy skill lev = 25% that = 7,500 and with 5 27.44% expanders on not including cargo containers: 75001.2744^5 = 25211.0002873742 cargo space. Occator's base cargo space is 5,000, with skills +5% per gal indy skill lev = 25% that = 7,375 and with 6 27.44% expanders on not including cargo containers: 73751.2744^6 = 31593 cargo space. Math Done by: Kawasemi occator equation is incorrect. 5000 * 1.25 = 6250 6250 * (1.2744^6) = 26774.08.... Impel: base cargo 4000 * 1.25 for skill = 5000 5000 * (1.2744^7) = 27296.71....

Steve Buscemi	Posted - 2005.07.04 18:56:00 - [11] I would try to fit at least 1 explosive hardener and 2 warp core stabilizers in a 0.0 setup
Daniel Jackson	Posted - 2005.07.04 21:27:00 - [12] Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 04/07/2005 21:30:36 aqctualy dude no it isent cause i have 6 27.44% expanders on my occator and it does have 31,593m3 cargospace Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime! Image done by Denrace
anthonieak	Posted - 2005.07.06 11:16:00 - [13] Edited by: anthonieak on 06/07/2005 11:16:29 The occator setup i use. Smartbomb in highslot, Y-T8 microwarpdrive Base speed 42 m/s activating (Y-T8) 220 m/s 627,44 base 6250 cargo hold 26774m3 Using of Giant Secure Containers 83900+ 2774 = Total cargo hold of 33974m3 The Impel setup i used (sold this ship no use for it) Smartbomb in highslot, Y-T8 microwarpdrive Base speed 15 m/s activating (Y-T8) 74 m/s 727,44 base 5000 cargo hold 27294m3 Using of Giant Secure Containers 93900+ 294 = Total cargo hold of 35394m3 The speed was the bottleneck of the Impel. *********************************************** Miner Addicted
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.07.06 11:30:00 - [14] Edited by: LUKEC on 06/07/2005 11:30:23 nvm
Bracius	Posted - 2005.07.06 11:32:00 - [15] is occator worth buying? I need hauler for fueling pos in 0.0, and itty 5 does it job ok. Also i have viator and it was good investment. But low speed and little base cargo on occator are discouraging me.
Blydchyld	Posted - 2005.07.21 21:07:00 - [16] is 41070.9m3 enough space for you? ------------------------------------------------ I want you to be a fish.
Namarus	Posted - 2005.07.21 21:28:00 - [17] High - Improved cloak II Mid - Medium Capacitor Battery II (miles better than a t2 cap recharger), 10mn shadow serp MWD Low - 6 local expanders WTB +5 Charisma/Perception/Willpower
Vivus Mors	Posted - 2005.07.23 03:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Daniel Jackson Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 04/07/2005 21:30:36 aqctualy dude no it isent cause i have 6 27.44% expanders on my occator and it does have 31,593m3 cargospace ??? then apparently youÆve performed a miracle as the math doesnÆt followà Occator Local Hull Conversion Occator Base cargo capacity: 5000m3 Number of low slots: 6 Local Hull Conversion Cargo Expander: 27.44% expansion bonus Cargo Expansion Bonus from skill: 25% Cargo Expansion Formula: Base Cargo Capacity * Skill Bonus * Expander Bonus (multiplied compounding on how many expanders there are and their expansion values) 5000 * 1.25 * 1.2744 * 1.2744 * 1.2744 * 1.2744 * 1.2744 * 1.2744 = 26,774.08 curiously, even if Cargo Expander 2Æs where being used, the Occator would get up to 29,478.04163, which is still well short of the ô31,593m3ö you mentioned. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks...
Savyor	Posted - 2005.08.01 18:29:00 - [19] OK, so a summary of the breakdowns on 3 ships mentioned are: (Assuming skill lvl 5 and all 27.44% expanders used in all low slots available) Iteron Mark V 25,211.00 m3 5 expanders Base speed = 110 m/sec. Base price = 1,125,000 isk Occator 26,744.08 m3 6 expanders Base speed = 90 m/sec. Base price = 13,273,046 isk Impel 27,296.71 m3 7 expanders Base speed = 80 m/sec. Base price = 13,278,594 isk From comparing these stats, it seems to me like the Mark V is the better deal. For roughly 1/12 the price of the Transporters, the Mark V is faster (not only by base speed, but considering less expanders = less penalty) and holds only about 1500-2000 m3 less cargo...which isn't really much of a difference for this range. Forgive my newbly ignorance, and please tell me why I would want the Transporters over the Mark V. Only negatives I can see is the Mark V has a way lower power grid, which will make it possible but tough to fit in a MWD rather than an AB.
Palx	Posted - 2005.08.01 18:50:00 - [20] Transports have high resists, more armor/shield etc. - therefore can surivive better than the Itty5

Dimitri Forgroth	Posted - 2005.08.01 19:09:00 - [21] CCP already answered your question. "Deep space transports are designed with the depths of lawless space in mind. Possessing defensive capabilities far in excess of standard industrial ships, they provide great protection for whatever cargo is being transported in their massive holds. They are, however, some of the slowest ships to be found floating through space." \| Don't be a bad loser \|
Savyor	Posted - 2005.08.03 14:26:00 - [22] Well, the defensive bonuses were obvious, and I already knew about those. But for hauling in "safe" zones (ie. when you are still relatively no0Bish like me)with few skills and nothing but lint in yer pockets....the Itty sounds mighty good to me. I do appreciate the responses though.
Matthew	Posted - 2005.08.03 14:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Savyor Well, the defensive bonuses were obvious, and I already knew about those. But for hauling in "safe" zones (ie. when you are still relatively no0Bish like me)with few skills and nothing but lint in yer pockets....the Itty sounds mighty good to me. I do appreciate the responses though. Indeed, the IttyV is still a great option in secure space. But bear in mind that if you're transporting expensive goods around, or even just kitting out something expensive like a full rack of local expanders, you become a target in high-sec space. People can and do suicide attack IttyV's with expensive stuff as it's worth the loss to get the loot. The extra resilience of the transports really comes in handy in that situation, as suiciding one means losing a lot more isk in ships downed by concord. You can do anything. But you can't do everything.
Isparian	Posted - 2005.10.19 14:31:00 - [24] Ine thing I really dont understand is - with overall balance of ships between the races in EVE - why Gallente are the only race with lvl5 Industrial ship? ... yes - now there is Impel too ... just sad ... because it seems that 90% of all freighters will be Gallente too - since other races have basically no use for industrial lvl5 skills ... only thing coming close - Minmatar lvl4 industrial ship :/
Justin Cody	Posted - 2005.10.19 14:44:00 - [25] omg...who put expanders on their occator.../me instalocks+pwns ok...you really need to rethink this. Try putting 6 nanofibers, or 3 nanos and 3 stabs, cause uhhh...warp bubble anyone? you will want to be faster and agile. This is kind of why I prefer blockade runners tbh. Viator for the win? /shrugs "Ill armed and half starved, they were still desperate men, to whom danger had lost all fears: for what was death that they should shun it to cling to such a life as theirs?"--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Bear grrr	Posted - 2005.10.26 12:03:00 - [26] Tech2 haulers can also access 5/10 complexs. standard haulers can't Which means you can get all the loot !
Pluppo	Posted - 2006.01.22 12:41:00 - [27] I just got myself one of these beauties, and I use it mostly to pick up loot. I know, I could have used another ship for it, but I felt like trying it out. So my setup for loot gathering is: 10MN Microwarpdrive I 10MN Afterburner II 6x Beta Hull Modified Nanofiber Structure I used the Iteron V before, and being able to comfortably use MWD is a blessing, I get to above 1500m/s. I have the AF on there for the cans that are closer than 10k, because you bounce quite far off the can when using the MWD. Of course, I have expanders and WCS so I can use it for other things, but I really love this ship as a loot gatherer :)
Hon Kovell	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:02:00 - [28] Originally by: RedClaws why does everybody like the occator so much and not the impel? It's the slave transport air to it. It's hard to fly a ship that you know was built just to transport slaves.
Wesley Harding	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:40:00 - [29] I can get my Impel up to 10,348 M3 with 3 Local Hull expanders. With 4 Local Nanos added on she can do 1000 M/3 with MWD.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.01.22 15:33:00 - [30] these ships need x2 base cargo in my opinion I use no guns... i smack to death.



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