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Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
30
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:11:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote: Because bots use optical character recognition, and can just enter the code.
Citation needed.
Even so many ways to combat such as coloured strike throughs etc Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
425
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:13:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:the moment you mine you're a bot I suspected as much, thanks for confirming.
Reading comprehension helps but whatever. 
Have a nice year full of good things and don't forget your pills, they make you even better, don't stop taking those.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1495
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:16:00 -
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Yim Sei wrote:Vincent Athena wrote: Because bots use optical character recognition, and can just enter the code.
Citation needed. Even so many ways to combat such as coloured strike throughs etc For those you have the bot send a screen shot to a service in a third world country where its deciphered for a tiny fee. Google it, you'll find it.
All those things will do is annoy regular players. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Abu Tarynnia
Abu Tarynnia Corporation
71
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:17:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Some Rando wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:the moment you mine you're a bot I suspected as much, thanks for confirming. Here they are finally. Time to leave Thread as it's all downhill from here.
He he .. but one question remains ? Can you swim ? Because without bots and multiboxing (that I find still too stressful and cheaty) how high can prices for minerals and all other stuff depending on that go ? Can you swim in that ocean all those non-miners will fill with their whimpy tears ? Can you sail on that wailing cries of agony the pvplers will cry as they realize, that the ship just lost cannot be replaced because the prices are too high ? Just go on .. strip missions of ISK, strip the miners of the ability to mine and destory EVE as you know and love it now. I will dance on the grave and cheers havens with a pint for the new beginning afterwards.  YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!! |

Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
30
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:26:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:[quote=Yim Sei] For those you have the bot send a screen shot to a service in a third world country where its deciphered for a tiny fee. Google it, you'll find it.
All those things will do is annoy regular players.
People this would annoy are not 'regular' players.
They are AFKers or Bots
Which are you? hmmmmmmmmmm? Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
1770

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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:35:00 -
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I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread. Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12433
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:38:00 -
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Yim Sei wrote:People this would annoy are not 'regular' players.
They are AFKers or Bots No. Neither AFKers nor bots can be annoyed by it, since they'll automate the process of pretty much insta-skipping it. Actual players, on the other hand, will always be annoyed with stuff that randomly interrupts what they're doing for no reason.
The only ones in favour of captcha in games are those who won't be affected by themGǪ i.e. botters. See how that works? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Stone Roses
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:44:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread.
You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6198
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:45:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: find both botting and multiboxing abhorent.
They achieve the same destructive ends.
Also, an accusation is not a determination.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you multi-box too. Practice what you preach, tia~ ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12433
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:45:00 -
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Stone Roses wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread. You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad. I didn't see any mentions of Elite or Ultima Onine, so no, that's probably not what he meant.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
31
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:46:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Yim Sei wrote:People this would annoy are not 'regular' players.
They are AFKers or Bots No. Neither AFKers nor bots can be annoyed by it, since they'll automate the process of pretty much insta-skipping it. Actual players, on the other hand, will always be annoyed with stuff that randomly interrupts what they're doing for no reason. The only ones in favour of captcha in games are those who won't be affected by themGǪ i.e. botters. See how that works?
Nope - You are very very very wrong.
Don't know why you even posted this drivel to defend them.
If someone is actively there at the keyboard they can use the 'Asteroid events'.
If they are afk or bots - they can not - simple.
CCP have already gone a long way to removing AFK missioniong.
Removing AFK mining would also remove bots.
The only reason anyone would want no interruption is to not be there.
The only reason anyone would defend bots in game is because it benefits them. Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13395
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:54:00 -
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Yim Sei wrote:Nope - You are very very very wrong. You'll find you're wrong, actually. But don't let facts, get in the way of some good old mud slinging.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12433
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:55:00 -
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Yim Sei wrote:If someone is actively there at the keyboard they can use the 'Asteroid events'.
If they are afk or bots - they can not - simple. What you're describing is just prettied-up captchas. They are already easily automated, so yes, they most certainly can. Just because you don't know this doesn't mean it's drivel or hasn't been going on for years now.
Quote:CCP have already gone a long way to removing AFK missioniong. Not really, no. For actual players staying away, it just required a slight adjustment in tactics; with bots, it was just a matter of readjusting the code.
Quote:Removing AFK mining would also remove bots. Nope. There's actually a decent case to be made that removing AFK mining would increase the number of bots.
Quote:The only reason anyone would want no interruption is to not be there. Ok, so we can conclude that you are a bot, then, with this stunning insight into human psychology. No. People don't like interruptions. What you're suggesting is to interrupt people. Botters will automate that and not care one whit; everyone else will dislike itGǪ pretty much exactly like we've seen with all other captchas. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |

Abu Tarynnia
Abu Tarynnia Corporation
71
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:01:00 -
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Yim Sei wrote:Tippia wrote:Yim Sei wrote:People this would annoy are not 'regular' players.
They are AFKers or Bots No. Neither AFKers nor bots can be annoyed by it, since they'll automate the process of pretty much insta-skipping it. Actual players, on the other hand, will always be annoyed with stuff that randomly interrupts what they're doing for no reason. The only ones in favour of captcha in games are those who won't be affected by themGǪ i.e. botters. See how that works? Nope - You are very very very wrong. Don't know why you even posted this drivel to defend them. If someone is actively there at the keyboard they can use the 'Asteroid events'. If they are afk or bots - they can not - simple. CCP have already gone a long way to removing AFK missioniong. Removing AFK mining would also remove bots. The only reason anyone would want no interruption is to not be there. The only reason anyone would defend bots in game is because it benefits them.
The problem with bots in ANY MMO is that they adept faster then you can program anything against them. And by the way .. what do you thing this would change ? Some 'players' stop playing because cannot bot anymore? If so .. CCP would loose money because even a bot needs PLEX or a credit card .. so not allowing bots within certain borders is also bad. Mining is not that intressting that a halfway sane player would pay for that .. and just to be ganged when hes no afking. I do it (afking) when I have other things to do and cannot have 100% concentration on the game. So what ? Do you really think mining .. one of the most annoying professions in most MMOs is something I should pay for ? If they nerf mining the way you purpose .. EVE will be dead within a month. YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!! |

Dave stark
1428
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:04:00 -
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Stone Roses wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread. You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad.
based on the myriad of irrefutable sources you provided. it's a complete scandal that your post was deleted. you should cancel your account(s) as a sign of your displeasure at this hideous conspiracy. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
6795
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:04:00 -
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leoplusma wrote: last night, home system infested by 40 retrievers their pilot names were : "Replicant_****_01" all way to "Replicant_****_40". they were behaving in mining the ice belt like... bots. lol.
petitioned it. i guess many of us did. no response yet.
today i realise that those users dont even exist anymore in eve database! along with them, some other Replicants too (i think Replicant Dew or something) are too missing.
soooo i guess ccp kicked them out of the game.
any chance for an official validation of my assumptions?
thanks ccp
leo
In before Vareah telling us that CCP will never take action against multi-account botters MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |

Stone Roses
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:09:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Stone Roses wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread. You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad. based on the myriad of irrefutable sources you provided. it's a complete scandal that your post was deleted. you should cancel your account(s) as a sign of your displeasure at this hideous conspiracy.
Your blind faith in the integrity of CCP is very sweet.. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
6795
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:11:00 -
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Stone Roses wrote:Dave stark wrote:Stone Roses wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread. You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad. based on the myriad of irrefutable sources you provided. it's a complete scandal that your post was deleted. you should cancel your account(s) as a sign of your displeasure at this hideous conspiracy. Your blind faith in the integrity of CCP is very sweet..
Your blind faith in **** you make up is an inspiration to us all MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13396
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:14:00 -
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Stone Roses wrote:Dave stark wrote:Stone Roses wrote:You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad. based on the myriad of irrefutable sources you provided. it's a complete scandal that your post was deleted. you should cancel your account(s) as a sign of your displeasure at this hideous conspiracy. Your blind faith in the integrity of CCP is very sweet.. Throws out an accusation of bias. Gets called out for lack of proof. Tries to post a witty retort, still failing to show evidence of said bias.
Nice work.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
3246
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:14:00 -
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Andski wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: find both botting and multiboxing abhorent.
They achieve the same destructive ends.
Also, an accusation is not a determination. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you multi-box too. Practice what you preach, tia~
2 Hulks and an Orca max. Hardly need to box.
Correcting you as asked. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde |

Stone Roses
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:14:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Stone Roses wrote:Dave stark wrote:Stone Roses wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:I have removed some rumor mongering from this thread. You mean you removed some posts which make certain CCP favourites look bad. based on the myriad of irrefutable sources you provided. it's a complete scandal that your post was deleted. you should cancel your account(s) as a sign of your displeasure at this hideous conspiracy. Your blind faith in the integrity of CCP is very sweet.. Your blind faith in **** you make up is an inspiration to us all
You seem to be a bit Butthurt son. |

Dave stark
1429
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:15:00 -
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judging from the above replies, it seems like Stone Roses ain't fooling any one.
+1 faith in humanity. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Dave stark
1436
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:16:00 -
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Stone Roses wrote:You seem to be a bit Butthurt son.
pot. kettle. black. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Sayf ulMulk
Royal Starlancers
7
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:16:00 -
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PVP multiboxing is not a problem becouse a loss is very open possibility but yes multiboxing if doing mining is the economy killer since too many things dont work properly and you can just mine from downtime to downtime with multiboxing. Just with few click you can command entire army of mining ships creating infinitive income. Moon income is a joke compared to money created with multiboxing or botting. And the multiboxing armadas will just be the new cool for ex botters. In fact one of the very popular botting program (questor) is based around multiboxing program. Problem is if you restrict multiboxing you are restricting also people who use it for pvp. Best way would be if miners would need scan for belts. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
6796
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:24:00 -
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Stone Roses wrote:
You seem to be a bit Butthurt son.
Yeah I'm super cut up that your posts got deleted that's why I'm the one complaining about it MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |

Abu Tarynnia
Abu Tarynnia Corporation
71
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:25:00 -
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Sayf ulMulk wrote:.... Best way would be if miners would need scan for belts.
he he .. yes, right .. go on .. so all miners then have to learn scanning in order to do their profession ?
I WANT A REMAP OF Skillpoints !!!!! Have to get rid of those pesky mining skills that are worthless!!!
Come on. Botting is a problem .. easiest way would be to scan the IP-adress and kill every client with same adress. He he .. would make ganking also a bit more difficult  YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!! |

Dave stark
1438
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:28:00 -
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Abu Tarynnia wrote:Sayf ulMulk wrote:.... Best way would be if miners would need scan for belts.  he he .. yes, right .. go on .. so all miners then have to learn scanning in order to do their profession ? I WANT A REMAP OF Skillpoints !!!!! Have to get rid of those pesky mining skills that are worthless!!! Come on. Botting is a problem .. easiest way would be to scan the IP-adress and kill every client with same adress. He he .. would make ganking also a bit more difficult 
why? i could find small, medium, and large grav sites in upgraded 0.0 sov with nothing but astrometrics II, and a heron.
i really see no issue with having to scan grav sites, aside from the fact most of them are full of omber which is borderline worthless. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Abu Tarynnia
Abu Tarynnia Corporation
71
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:32:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Abu Tarynnia wrote:Sayf ulMulk wrote:.... Best way would be if miners would need scan for belts.  he he .. yes, right .. go on .. so all miners then have to learn scanning in order to do their profession ? I WANT A REMAP OF Skillpoints !!!!! Have to get rid of those pesky mining skills that are worthless!!! Come on. Botting is a problem .. easiest way would be to scan the IP-adress and kill every client with same adress. He he .. would make ganking also a bit more difficult  why? i could find small, medium, and large grav sites in upgraded 0.0 sov with nothing but astrometrics II, and a heron. i really see no issue with having to scan grav sites, aside from the fact most of them are full of omber which is borderline worthless.
And how does this help against botting or afk-miners ? ... people are lazy .. they want to play a GAME and have some small or more success ... not another job to do ... YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!! |

Dave stark
1438
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:39:00 -
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Abu Tarynnia wrote:Dave stark wrote:Abu Tarynnia wrote:Sayf ulMulk wrote:.... Best way would be if miners would need scan for belts.  he he .. yes, right .. go on .. so all miners then have to learn scanning in order to do their profession ? I WANT A REMAP OF Skillpoints !!!!! Have to get rid of those pesky mining skills that are worthless!!! Come on. Botting is a problem .. easiest way would be to scan the IP-adress and kill every client with same adress. He he .. would make ganking also a bit more difficult  why? i could find small, medium, and large grav sites in upgraded 0.0 sov with nothing but astrometrics II, and a heron. i really see no issue with having to scan grav sites, aside from the fact most of them are full of omber which is borderline worthless. And how does this help against botting or afk-miners ? ...  people are lazy .. they want to play a GAME and have some small or more success ... not another job to do ...
my post had nothing to do with bots. it had everything to do with your downright absurd claim that miners would "have to" learn scanning if everything was moved to grav sites.
i've had longer afternoon naps than it'd take to train the relevant prerequisites to scan down grav sites. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Abu Tarynnia
Abu Tarynnia Corporation
71
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:44:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:my post had nothing to do with bots. it had everything to do with your downright absurd claim that miners would "have to" learn scanning if everything was moved to grav sites.
i've had longer afternoon naps than it'd take to train the relevant prerequisites to scan down grav sites.
Sure .. but non the less I would have to train a Skill I do not want to have ... and further .. moving around systems just for mining with a profit less then any other profession produces .. why in hell should anybody do that then anymore .. and also actually pay for that ?! Where is the fun ? YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!! |
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