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Shenima Acami
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:24:00 -
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It might seem like simple enough question, but I'm still not quite sure which T1 cruiser to choose. I'm already trying to make up my mind between Arbitrator and Rupture/Stabber. But what are your opinions?
Thanks.  |
Raemes T Quirk
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:28:00 -
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Different play styles for each. Each is excellent though. Arbitrator is a drone ship, rupture more of a brawler and the stabber is a hit and run/ kiter. So where do your skills and likes lie? |
Shpenat
Pafos Technologies
27
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:29:00 -
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You should specify what you intent to do with said cruiser. PvE? PvP? fleet operations? small gangs? solo? |
Rezig Huruta
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
113
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:45:00 -
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With the cruiser love patch, they are all highly usable.
Personally, I prefer the stabber for speed, but you have to decide what you want to do (as mentioned by others). |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
Unclaimed.
444
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:46:00 -
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With the changes i am yet to find a bad T1 cruiser. They each have their good and bad points and all of them can be very effective.
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Shenima Acami
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:54:00 -
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Yeah, I forgot to say what I'm going to use it for. Sorry. :/
I was intending to use it for solo PvP, maybe solo PvE(belt ratting). |
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
Iberians.
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Posted - 2013.01.02 16:58:00 -
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I like the new caracal. With just a few module changes you can be a missile destroyer, a Fleet supporter and DPS (with HAMS and painter) or a L3 missioner/belt ratter (with HMs)
I was planning on getting a Cerberus but with the new tiercide, and the reduction of HAM PG, now this little beast is almost as great for very little price.
Although I agree that all I posted can be applied to all cruisers now. |
Mizhir
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
2265
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Posted - 2013.01.02 17:22:00 -
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They are all 3 pretty good. So it depends alot on your prefered playing style.
The Arbitrator is both a Drone boat and Ewar boat. So if drones is what you prefer it is a solid choice. It has abit low dps compared to many combat/attack cruisers and relies on tracking disruptors for pvp. You could also switch to the vexor, which is more combat focused and can pack a heavy punch (but it requires some crosstraining).
The Rupture is a great brawler (close range combat) but can also be fit for kiting (even though the attack cruisers are better at that). It is very versatile and can both shield and armortank. It has 4 guns, which is one fewer than most other combat/attack cruisers, but the ship bonus makes up for that. The utility high can be used to fend off frigs with a neut or it can be fit with a missile launcher for extra dps.
The Stabber is a attack cruiser and shines at kiting since it is both very fast and has a falloff bonus. Like the rupture it has 4 turrets, but it doesn't have a dmg bonus like the Rupture and it lacks drones as well, so the dmg is quite low, unless you fit the 2 utility highs with missile launchers. Stabbers are mostly shield tanked, but there are some specialized armorfits.
So it all boils down to what playstyle you prefer. Since you seem to be a new player I would recommend you to specialize at one ship so you can fly it really well, and then later start to branch out. The stabber takes a bit more effort to shine and you will need tech 2 guns to kite well. So I would advise you to pick one of the others.
If you intend to solo pvp, you should check out Kil2 and Kovorix's podcast: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42133&find=unread
ChromeStriker wrote:With the changes i am yet to find a bad T1 cruiser. They each have their good and bad points and all of them can be very effective.
Agree. They did a pretty good job balancing them. I rarely see such succesful balancing job in any mmo.
If you are having Smurf problems I feel bad for you son
I got 99 problems but a Blue aint one. |
Taoist Dragon
Forced Penetration
Hopeless Addiction
168
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Posted - 2013.01.02 21:12:00 -
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As a new player I would suggest the Arbitrator is a long training time bfore you have the skills to use properly/effectively as it is a very versitile ship. And with that versitility comes a large number of base skills needed to make it work well.
Pick one of the attack crusiers and one of the combat crusiers for you chosen race and skill up for that if cruisers is your goal. I would recommend that you start off in frigates though as losing cruisers may be hard to fund with such a young toon.
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
I'm NOT a Pirate! I'm a privateer! |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
207
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Posted - 2013.01.02 22:37:00 -
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Shenima Acami wrote:Yeah, I forgot to say what I'm going to use it for. Sorry. :/
I was intending to use it for solo PvP, maybe solo PvE(belt ratting).
For solo pve belt ratting I had go with stabber for the sake of simplicity and dps. With stabber you get guns and missiles. So, just show up and start shooting.
With rupture you got guns, missiles, drones. Now that rupture lost one high slot. You might just go guns and drones. While drones are perfectly usable, they also require more attention, they have their own separate window, they need to be launched. Makes life slightly more complicated when all you want is just simple belt ratting in low sec.
I don't fly amarr so no opinion on that last boat.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat dessert first! |
To mare
Advanced Technology
154
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Posted - 2013.01.03 07:13:00 -
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if you wanna pvp a shield thorax with ECM drones is going to **** off alot of people |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
120
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Posted - 2013.01.03 07:22:00 -
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Of the three you mentioned, I'm absolutely in love with Stabber. It's just something magical about having a cruiser fly like a frigate :D Sure, the damage output is lower, but then the speed gives you option that others can't even consider, a true hit and run T1 cruiser, a Minibond. |
Corelyn
FATAL Warfare
Hopeless Addiction
0
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Posted - 2013.01.03 09:11:00 -
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Pick Vexor.
I fly the Stabber and Rupture, they feel so sub par compared to Thorax, Caracal, Vexor, Omen, Maller, Arbitrator and Moa. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
502
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Posted - 2013.01.03 13:55:00 -
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Training all 4 cruiser skills to 4 doesnt take long at all
find out which 1 you like the fun way, rather than someone else telling you what to fly
then once you know which cruisers you like train the relevant skill to 5
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Vixorz
Lynx Armada
60
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Posted - 2013.01.03 14:27:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Training all 4 cruiser skills to 4 doesnt take long at all
find out which 1 you like the fun way, rather than someone else telling you what to fly
then once you know which cruisers you like train the relevant skill to 5
This. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
379
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Posted - 2013.01.03 15:08:00 -
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Caracal is king imo
But out of those the arby/rupt are the better choices.. stabber is kinda **** |
Shenima Acami
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.01.03 16:18:00 -
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Thanks for the replies guys. :D
I'm now training to get a Stabber, won't be long now. :) |
Rezig Huruta
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
113
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Posted - 2013.01.03 16:26:00 -
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Shenima Acami wrote:Thanks for the replies guys. :D
I'm now training to get a Stabber, won't be long now. :)
Just remember, in the Stabber, one of your defenses is SPEED. You don't have a ton of HP or DMG output. Keep that in mind. |
Rezig Huruta
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
113
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Posted - 2013.01.03 16:34:00 -
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Corelyn wrote:Pick Vexor.
I fly the Stabber and Rupture, they feel so sub par compared to Thorax, Caracal, Vexor, Omen, Maller, Arbitrator and Moa.
So... why do you fly the Stabber and Rupture?
Or did you mean, "I used to fly stabber and rupture, but the Vexor has proven to be superior"?
Just asking, because you said you fly those two and then say they aren't as good as ... nearly every other cruiser. :P |
Corelyn
FATAL Warfare
Hopeless Addiction
0
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Posted - 2013.01.03 17:14:00 -
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Rezig Huruta wrote:Corelyn wrote:Pick Vexor.
I fly the Stabber and Rupture, they feel so sub par compared to Thorax, Caracal, Vexor, Omen, Maller, Arbitrator and Moa. So... why do you fly the Stabber and Rupture? Or did you mean, "I used to fly stabber and rupture, but the Vexor has proven to be superior"? Just asking, because you said you fly those two and then say they aren't as good as ... nearly every other cruiser. :P
My skill plan does not allowe branching out yet. Need to keep things focused. I will eventually branch to Gallente. |
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