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David Goodwill	Posted - 2005.06.10 14:34:00 - [31] Originally by: Anne Lewis Originally by: David Goodwill And about the dissapointed wit -V- bit, we didn't expect you to come "rescue" us, as we were quite capable of fielding our own fleet. It was small, and we only did what we could. We were more dissapointed that you didn't put up more of a fight for your own region than anything else, and while we still love you guys, we were a bit annoyed at how easy you seemed to take it. What did FSA wanted -V- to do? Fight the war for you? Come on! As already said, you got the help of ATUK. At least with their forces and combined powers you should have reached your goals. But as far as I know ATUK did also not to much to help FSA. So don't blame others! I have the intention that you can't say this freely in an open forum. Am I right? ATUK only tolerates FSA, but to say they are really helping you I think is to much said! But lets end this! It's leading us nowhere! ATUK have never helped us in any fight Vs RA and I would have it no other way even if they had offered, so putting their name in here is silly. As I have said often before, we were annoyed at your lack of commitment to holding your own region. We always have held -V- in VERY high regard (higher than you know possibly) and we had commited ourselves to helping you if you asked us. We felt that we were basically left by ourselves, which was fine, but we were under the impression that our friendship meant more to you? Anyway, Apoc was steaming by the way you let your region go, and I had to give him a triple backrub to calm him down! I just hope this thread gets locked soon, cos it is gonna go round in circles. As it stands, you know how we feel. It is a fact and we in no way mean to disrespect you, we just felt we had to let it be known. If you want to talk about it more, convo me in game and we can talk about it as much as you like, but stop replying here please as it goes nowhere except into the forum warriors flame infested lairs. ----------------------------- Mating call of a pirate... "rarrggghhh, omg r0x0r, ph34r meeeee" Average age: 12..
Touk	Posted - 2005.06.10 15:49:00 - [32] need i remind all FSA members that 1 of the main factors in the agreement we had with V to stay in thier region was to solidify thier position and defend thier space when needed.......i realise we were not strong enough to fend of RA but blaming others for our short comings really isn't the brightest idea ive ever heard...... For all the FSA members that will reply with less than nice remarks......i know this because i was part of the initial meeting with V on that fateful day you all woke up to having no station whilst in Scalding pass. btw omeega........i lub u
Katya Detia	Posted - 2005.06.10 15:53:00 - [33] -V- is only a small alliance (smaller than FSA). We commit our forces to fighting in GW. You guys knew this. I explained countless times to APOC what we were doing, and the fact that we were not in a position at this time to move back into Insmother. FSA wanted to take a RA region at all costs. Apoc you didnÆt even want to consider the possibility of a NAP with RA, even though you couldnÆt fight this war. In short the only chance you had of winning the war against RA, was to drag -V- in. Apoc himself wanted us to stop our war with foundation to work 100% upon RA, which we didnÆt want to do. -V- asked FSA to consider the NAP so you could rebuilt, allowing us time to establish in GW. In the mean time your pvp'ers if board could of assisted us. We could of then helped defended and helped FSA. The short sightedness, hatred or obsession of certain people meant that FSA was not prepared to NAP or cease aggression against RA. RA quite rightly took the area FSA were using to base from. The FSA leadership expected -V- to stop our war, and come flying into Insmother.. Sorry FSA.. --------------------------- CEO: Black Sea Industries
Touk	Posted - 2005.06.10 16:00:00 - [34] Nail.......Head....Hit on the.... someting like that katya
David Goodwill	Posted - 2005.06.10 16:08:00 - [35] Ok, seriously, for the last time, we do not blame -V- for anything. We never demanded they help. All we have said is we were annoyed because we felt they let their region go so easily. At least that is the way it seemed to us. Now, please, let this thread die. ----------------------------- Mating call of a pirate... "rarrggghhh, omg r0x0r, ph34r meeeee" Average age: 12..
Chippie MS	Posted - 2005.06.10 17:06:00 - [36] Edited by: Chippie MS on 10/06/2005 17:06:12 We who is this We????? I know for a fact i wasnt annoyed with -V- they where busy else where... what **ed me off was our own members docking and waiting for someone to bail em out........ bah to that ole crap id rather loose every ship I own than sit in a station *ing and crying. ------------------------------------ There's one * in the world, one *** with many faces
ph33rf4ct0ry	Posted - 2005.06.10 17:27:00 - [37] From this view it looks like FSA wanted to play with the big boys and it didnt work out. Grats on having the stones to admit your defeat and going to rebuild (in empire?)
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2005.06.10 17:57:00 - [38] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: KIAEddZ RA should consider themselves very lucky. Dissapointed in you FSA. Men or mice? lol. We'd have loved to have some real pvp deal in empire KIAddz ;) The vote is already cast. Shame we won't get to use it now. Or will weeeeeeeee ;) ;) xx http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Krilos Nereth	Posted - 2005.06.10 17:57:00 - [39] Thank you for the professional fights RA and to Botox Bandits. Enjoyed fighting you guys and enjoyed the local chats with some of you also. To those who seem to enjoy posting the words "mining b*****", whether we are or not is irrelevant. It takes guts to start an alliance, it takes guts to swallow ones pride and it takes guts to stand-up and fight for what we want. But most of all it takes guts to post acknowledgement that we cease hostilities to the better half. Look forward to the next time
FdD Banshee	Posted - 2005.06.10 18:30:00 - [40] Originally by: Chippie MS Edited by: Chippie MS on 10/06/2005 17:42:43 Edited by: Chippie MS on 10/06/2005 17:42:09 Edited by: Chippie MS on 10/06/2005 17:06:12 We who is this We????? I know for a fact i wasnt annoyed with -V- they where busy else where... what **ed me off was our own members docking and waiting for someone to bail em out........ bah to that ole crap id rather loose every ship I own than sit in a station *ing and crying. Also "In the mean time your pvp'ers if board could of assisted us. We could of then helped defended and helped FSA." Well thats news to me i would have been up for some of that... oh well the "powers" that be know whats going on.... supposidly Sounds more reasonable to me than anything else that has been said before. To all the other FSA guys that posted here i just want you to keep in mind who started that topic so pls dont tell us that this thread need to be locked. Originally by:** APOC UK The Free Space Alliance has been upset that -V- did not put up more of a fight on our behalf. Originally by: Katya Detia .. Sorry FSA..
Bannion	Posted - 2005.06.10 19:19:00 - [41] "Respect" is one of the strongest words in EVE imo. That word speaks volumes
WarRages	Posted - 2005.06.10 22:18:00 - [42] To RA thxs for all the good fights it was a great pleasure to fight with you guys, I was always told respect will never be learned, instead it has to be earned. You have are respect FSA keep your heads up this was one hell of a learning process. And to think we lasted so long against some of the best PVP'ers in the game, that says alot. And as for REQUIEM INC. Next time show up for battles to say that you helped in any way, well thats for another thread me thinks. Stay strong m8ts and fly safe. Keep the flames to a minimum as always you don't need to answer the trollers of eve. WarRages
EternalDark	Posted - 2005.06.11 00:08:00 - [43] Originally by: WarRages To RA thxs for all the good fights it was a great pleasure to fight with you guys, I was always told respect will never be learned, instead it has to be earned. You have are respect FSA keep your heads up this was one hell of a learning process. And to think we lasted so long against some of the best PVP'ers in the game, that says alot. And as for REQUIEM INC. Next time show up for battles to say that you helped in any way, well thats for another thread me thinks. Stay strong m8ts and fly safe. Keep the flames to a minimum as always you don't need to answer the trollers of eve. WarRages Yes I have to admit that due to the limited ammount of empire activity "in anything but the FSA alt corps that were created shortly after the war dec.." Req inc was only able to kill little over a dozen FSA bs's this week. However taking no losses and having limited opportunities for kills and no FSA blobs to assault I consider our contract against FSA a success. However it is true we did not ftw pawn you. That was the russians. No more Rip posts on this thread please. Rule #1 -EternalDark
Shiwan Khan	Posted - 2005.06.11 00:19:00 - [44] Originally by: TyPower You forgot to add the bit about REQUIEM INC constantly hounding u in empire, shutting down your operations and causing half your corps to leave your alliance. Thanx :) So much for your "NO POSTING ON THE FORUMS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES" rule...especially in this flaming context
EternalDark	Posted - 2005.06.11 00:51:00 - [45] Originally by: Shiwan Khan Originally by: TyPower You forgot to add the bit about REQUIEM INC constantly hounding u in empire, shutting down your operations and causing half your corps to leave your alliance. Thanx :) So much for your "NO POSTING ON THE FORUMS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES" rule...especially in this flaming context In three months this was our first unofficial indescresion and it will be handeled internally, thank you for your concern. - Eternal Dark
Phoenicia	Posted - 2005.06.11 08:10:00 - [46] Originally by: EternalDark Originally by: Shiwan Khan Originally by: TyPower You forgot to add the bit about REQUIEM INC constantly hounding u in empire, shutting down your operations and causing half your corps to leave your alliance. Thanx :) So much for your "NO POSTING ON THE FORUMS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES" rule...especially in this flaming context In three months this was our first unofficial indescresion and it will be handeled internally, thank you for your concern. - Eternal Dark Iii smeeell aa spaaaanking... Anyway, kudos to you Requiem fellows too. I have observed you for a while when you just declared (especially in Yulai), and you really have that "Invulnerability is an aspect of one's self" thing down. Damn near untouchable. ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--- CCP deleted my sig pic cause it was 50 pixels too wide and all I got was this lousy text.
fisty	Posted - 2005.06.11 11:24:00 - [47] Originally by: David Goodwill Nice alt, does it make coffee as well? if u make showinfo on my name ull see im no alt... i guess u better learn to know whta ya talking about before u do:D im sorry but b4 reading here i never heard of FSA
Fred0	Posted - 2005.06.11 15:46:00 - [48] Bwahaha, stop pretending anything else Fisty. All knows you're a noob alt created for flaming
BadgerBadgerBadger	Posted - 2005.06.11 15:47:00 - [49] Edited by: BadgerBadgerBadger on 11/06/2005 15:48:40 Originally by: Katya Detia -V- is only a small alliance (smaller than FSA). We commit our forces to fighting in GW. You guys knew this. I explained countless times to APOC what we were doing, and the fact that we were not in a position at this time to move back into Insmother. FSA wanted to take a RA region at all costs. Apoc you didnÆt even want to consider the possibility of a NAP with RA, even though you couldnÆt fight this war. In short the only chance you had of winning the war against RA, was to drag -V- in. Apoc himself wanted us to stop our war with foundation to work 100% upon RA, which we didnÆt want to do. -V- asked FSA to consider the NAP so you could rebuilt, allowing us time to establish in GW. In the mean time your pvp'ers if board could of assisted us. We could of then helped defended and helped FSA. The short sightedness, hatred or obsession of certain people meant that FSA was not prepared to NAP or cease aggression against RA. RA quite rightly took the area FSA were using to base from. The FSA leadership expected -V- to stop our war, and come flying into Insmother.. Sorry FSA.. Katya, I would just like to say that Lunar Dawn wishes to distance itself from any adverse comments aimed at V. You guys tried to do FSA a favour and got nothing but grief and lost stations for youe trouble. You know what they say, No good deed goes unpunished. Doh. It defaulted to an alt for some unknown reason, but this post by Jemson Brightson - Lunar dawn CEO. .
Konietzko	Posted - 2005.06.11 16:25:00 - [50] Originally by: Saladin Respect to all involved. RA are old friends and I wish them the best of luck in their future endeavors As for FSA, cudos for the battles fought. I spoke with many FSA people and learned that they were new to 0.0 and to pvp in general, but were willing to learn from mistakes and give credit where it was due. Never once did I or any of my corp mates get flamed by them either in local or on the boards. True gentlemen in every sense of the word. Well said. FSA have some awesome members. I'm sure they'll be around for a long time. --- Konietzko [botox bandits]
fisty	Posted - 2005.06.11 16:39:00 - [51] Originally by: Fred0 Bwahaha, stop pretending anything else Fisty. All knows you're a noob alt created for flaming
David Goodwill	Posted - 2005.06.12 00:15:00 - [52] Originally by: fisty Originally by: David Goodwill Nice alt, does it make coffee as well? if u make showinfo on my name ull see im no alt... i guess u better learn to know whta ya talking about before u do:D im sorry but b4 reading here i never heard of FSA Hmmm, I was actually referring to the "Star Burst" char, who I did look up before posting, n00b corp for 8 months. Case rested, thx. ----------------------------- Mating call of a pirate... "rarrggghhh, omg r0x0r, ph34r meeeee" Average age: 12..
Hugo Kaviene	Posted - 2005.06.12 02:11:00 - [53] Edited by: Hugo Kaviene on 12/06/2005 02:13:24 /me salutes. If FSA is one thing, it is very resilient. Apoc's enthusiasm about the potential that his alliance has can be matched only by very few in the Eve universe. FSA, keep your head held high, you fought the good fight until you could not. I was there, since the beginning 6 months ago, and I have nothing but praise for the pilots that I fought alongside in FSA. As for RA, what can I say, they were just better organized, better trained, and better prepared. If people still think that days of alliances are over, just look at RA. They are supremely dedicated. Hats off to you RA. FSA Finance Minister (Retired)
Omeega	Posted - 2005.06.12 09:52:00 - [54] omg thx :=) Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Phoenicia	Posted - 2005.06.12 20:43:00 - [55] The Lunar Dawn has left the Free Space Alliance. Now that the FSA is no longer at war with anybody, we have decided to break from the alliance, hang out in 0-space, and decide on our next course of action. We wish the Free Space Alliance the best of luck. ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--- CCP deleted my sig pic cause it was 50 pixels too wide and all I got was this lousy text.
Hassis	Posted - 2005.06.13 10:13:00 - [56] Originally by: Phoenicia Now that the FSA is no longer at war with anybody, we have decided to break from the alliance, hang out in 0-space, and decide on our next course of action. kudos to you ;) UA Industry :: We produce frags
MrCjEvans	Posted - 2005.06.13 18:16:00 - [57] pity really :) goodluck to everyone involved :D

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