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Majaraw Awalabas	Posted - 2005.06.10 17:47:00 - [1] Presently we have received two news broadcasts detailing horror and panic within the Amarr Empire. These reports are grossly exaggarated and far from the truth. Behind these inflammatory broadcasts lies a web of deceit and ill-will. A small operation which poisons slaves, making them deranged and endangering and slaughtering themselves and citizens of the Empire is not the end of the Empire. We have dealt with slaves for centuries, Vitoc being one method of many utilized to keep them under control. We still have plenty others we can, are and will be using for centuries to come. As I fly around Amarr space I do not witness this panic, I see Slaver breeders preparing for massive orders, I see Khanid traitors lurking with their transcranial microthingamyjigs trying to peddle them. I see people watching the aforementioned broadcasts with sadness, sadness because of the lives lost, sadness because of the lives that will be lost and sadness over the lies propogated about them running around like headless chickens and barricading themselves in. They only need to look at each other and see, that it is not so. Not everyone relied on Vitoc, of those who did they usually had backup procedures ready from decades and centuries earlier. A scaremongering reporter being given free reign over a powerful broadcast network does not bring the Empire down. The truth is out there and it's not what you have been reading. The Empire stands forever.
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2005.06.10 17:49:00 - [2] nothing is forever. "Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.06.10 18:39:00 - [3] Oh yes. Im sure one pod pilot knows more that a global reporting news agency, goverments and in fact the people themselves. but you keep telling people nothings happening, its fine go back to your homes. You are running scared from the realities. You have finally stepped that final foot to being truly deluded. - "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
Brute Helmet	Posted - 2005.06.10 18:41:00 - [4] It is appalling to see that the CVA, who say they want to enlighten their slaves, do nothing to prevent the pogroms being carried out by amarrians against defenseless matari. The corruption of the amarr empire is evident for all to see now, laid bare unto the universe.
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.06.10 18:48:00 - [5] ive been thinking about this. Perhaps its true. This Amarrian pilot has truly deluded himself into believing he belongs to a just, righteous society. Do not ask me how And this is his answer to the evils his race is commiting, and currently commits. Perhaps the reality is too much for the poor wretch. - "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
Pulgor	Posted - 2005.06.10 19:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Perhaps its true. This Amarrian pilot has truly deluded himself into believing he belongs to a just, righteous society. Do not ask me how Says the crazy terrorist that dosn't admit the high turnover rate of attempted slave rescuee's vs actual slaves rescued. Oh, this is all for the good of everyone remember . ----------------------------------- Pulgor --- In service to Ubiqua Seraph and Sarum Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
Majaraw Awalabas	Posted - 2005.06.10 19:08:00 - [7] I have witnessed Emilianne Bouteillers mangling of interviews before. I don't doubt she is as creative with her other reporting duties. The press is just one power of many. Unlike God it is not omnipotent nor infallible.
Kait	Posted - 2005.06.10 19:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine nothing is forever. True, but the fall of a giant like the amarrian empire would shatter the world in ways you can't imagine, suddenly hundreds of thousands of ex-military would be left without jobs, wars would start, billions upon billions would die, and if you think that the other empires will still stand when the dust settles then you're mighty wrong. The Blood Covenant desires nothing else than blood, and thats what they're getting trough these "attacks". Just think about what happened when CA fell, and multiply that about 1000000 times.
Gaven Lok'ri	Posted - 2005.06.10 19:17:00 - [9] I would ask something. Why would a cure, cause mass revolt in under a few hours of being distributed? The slaves would have no gaurentee that they had been cured. Vitoc doesnt work that way. The only way they could know it was cured, is if they had been free for a long enough time for it to affect them. Therefor the aerosol CANNOT be a vitoc cure. Rather we have a different issue at hand. Im guessing that the Blood raiders released an agent designed to turn people into rabid killing machines rather than any true cure. Of course they expect the Empire to belive this is a cure and be paralized. But this is no cure, There is no reason a cure would cause the reaction this thing has. Therefor it is not a cure. The blood raiders have attacked with Biological weapons a soverign planet of the Empire. For this sin they will die. Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II!
Xav Vorbarra	Posted - 2005.06.10 21:05:00 - [10] No, it "couldn't" be the Vitoc cure could it? I mean the Blood Raiders have got it, why would they use it right?
Pulgor	Posted - 2005.06.10 21:09:00 - [11] If it is the cure, then it sure is a nifty one. Considering that a slave would not know that he's been cured from vitoc, this cure apparently causes the slave to get a wild hair up his ass and go killing amarrians. How does that work? ----------------------------------- Pulgor --- In service to Ubiqua Seraph and Sarum Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
Xav Vorbarra	Posted - 2005.06.10 21:12:00 - [12] I don't know, call it revenge for all the mis-treatment, bashings, rapes etc. You think you treat them well and pat your consience. But guess what. These ****ers are angry. And they want to cut off your head and put it on a large sharpened pole. Oh what do I care, the more they fight the happier I am
Azure Skyclad	Posted - 2005.06.10 21:26:00 - [13] Edited by: Azure Skyclad on 10/06/2005 21:26:37 Edited by: Azure Skyclad on 10/06/2005 21:26:12 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 10/06/2005 19:26:22 I would ask something. Why would a cure, cause mass revolt in under a few hours of being distributed? The slaves would have no gaurentee that they had been cured. Vitoc doesnt work that way. The only way they could know it was cured, is if they had been free for a long enough time for it to affect them. Therefor the aerosol CANNOT be a vitoc cure. Especially when one considers that there is no way a population on an isolated plantation would even know about this 'cure'. Rather we have a different issue at hand. Im guessing that the Blood raiders released an agent designed to turn people into rabid killing machines rather than any true cure. Of course they expect the Empire to belive this is a cure and be paralized. But this is no cure, There is no reason a cure would cause the reaction this thing has. Therefor it is not a cure. The blood raiders have attacked with Biological weapons a soverign planet of the Empire. For this sin they will die. What you say may or may not be true Mr Amarr. However, an idea planted in the head of human is a powerful thing. Cure or not, it worked. Sleep tight. Star Fraction http://www.voodoorockers.co.uk/
Gaven Lok'ri	Posted - 2005.06.10 21:34:00 - [14] Indeed. But how it worked will be an interesting question. This act will mark the end of the blood raiders in their current form. The Emperor will act and when he does Amarr's foes would be wise to start running. As for these reports... These reports are overstated nonsence. Which is entirely standard these days from the idiots in the intergalactic news service. For example the assumption that this is due to a vitoc cure, and not another bioagent... shows how reactionary and uninformed about the way such things work the press is. An attack did happen. That is true. Slaves have revolted. But that this revolt is anything special, or that it represents a cure to vitoc, is mere speculation that doesnt hold up to scrutiny. Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II!
Ardor	Posted - 2005.06.10 22:38:00 - [15] Originally by: Marajaw Awalabas I see Khanid traitors lurking with their transcranial microthingamyjigs trying to peddle them. 14 months ago the Khanid Kingdom cancelled the transcranial microcontroller deal with Ishukone. When in trouble you should focus your anger against the sharks around your boat and not against those who paddle in the same boat with you. I could also point to many statements from PIE members who praise the transcranial microcontrollers as a good alternative to vitoc. I dont think this is a good time to start another discussion who the traitor to the amarrian race is. We will see if Doriam can handle this situation...
Gaven Lok'ri	Posted - 2005.06.10 23:11:00 - [16] Indeed, I dont think this has much to do with Caldari. Hell I dont think this even has anything to do with SLAVES. I have another question. How did the news get this footage? If we are truly locking down the entirely of the system... how is the news service getting anywhere close without getting their heads blown off? Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II!
Xav Vorbarra	Posted - 2005.06.10 23:25:00 - [17] Ah, denial becomes apparent. I see you use the old "see no evil, hear no evil, see no evil" approach? All very well for those not on Mabnen I I guess. The pictures were probably transferred through holo links or some such.
Gaven Lok'ri	Posted - 2005.06.10 23:41:00 - [18] Who took them? Are you saying the revolters sent pictures up to a Gallente reporter... I would have thought they were more interested in staying alive as the Military *****s down. However I dont deny that a revolt is happening, Just that things across the empire are as out of control as the article implies and that it is a Vitoc cure that caused said revolt. I have my guesses what you scum did, but said article does not hold up to scrutiny. Im postulating that it was actually a much different drug than the vitoc cure that was used. Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II!
Lord Artemis	Posted - 2005.06.11 00:24:00 - [19] I have lived long and wise by not believing everything I hear or read but by everything I see and know. ___________________________ Aegis Militia Conclave official representative
Amataras	Posted - 2005.06.11 00:28:00 - [20] Edited by: Amataras on 11/06/2005 00:28:27 There are no tanks- I mean, vitoc cures in Amarr! -------------- The Eve Diplomacy Table
Gaius Kador	Posted - 2005.06.11 01:28:00 - [21] Febikhin Constellation Kador Prime VI Good evening, peons and pondscum. Even at a secluded location planetside at Kador the news of this insorum reached me. I found it a laugh and a half, and a reminder never to become careless. I've spent some minutes browsing the GalNet via this archaic NoteCom, and I think it would be proper for me to point out a few facts. First of all. Doriam II is the Emperor of Amarr. This 'Emperor Kor-Azor' of which the news report speaks of, does not exist. I suspect little Articio has been desecrating holy ground with his brattish friends, and somehow the reporter managed to get an invitation to said party. Don't listen to Articio, he's got more than one screw loose, or loose screw. Depends which way you like it. Secondly, it should be noted that traditional control measures are preferred amongst planet-bound slavestock. Examples of these are chains, slaver hounds and well trained overseers. Vitoc is primarily used on specimens who can operate aboard a spacefaring vessel. This is no cheap chemical-chain we are talking about, but a cutting edge solution with high production AND maintenance costs involved. Vitoc is not the chain of the people so to speak. Finally, I'd like to offer my sincere lack of sympathy to cousin Terram, and the disaster which struck Mabnen I and his slave colony. Prepare for the worst is about the only advise I have to offer at this moment in time. Complacency makes dead, and you reap what you sow just popped up as well. The House Kador will take care of this mess though, and make things right. Ah well, I have miles to walk until I can rest my aging bones. Enjoy this latest mess up of a news item. ----------------------------------------------
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.06.11 06:38:00 - [22] Perhaps so. I hope to hear more news soon on the matter. There is too much unknown here to jump to these varied conclusions. Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums
Kardinaal	Posted - 2005.06.11 08:46:00 - [23] Edited by: Kardinaal on 11/06/2005 08:46:51 Originally by: Xav Vorbarra No, it "couldn't" be the Vitoc cure could it? I mean the Blood Raiders have got it, why would they use it right? Oh, no doubt they did research on it to make this whatever it is that makes people violent allmost instantly. It's not like Blood Raiders have got the scientific power to come up with this on their own anyway... Typical for terrorists to use something of little harm and turn it into a biological weapon of some kind...
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.06.11 10:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Vitoc Chronicle ow, although still an option, few people are brave enough to dare it. Another new feature is the very pleasurable side-effect created by the antidote: for the first few hours after injection the receiver gets a very powerful euphoric sensation - as long as he is affected by the toxic virus. Both these extra features have helped bind the slaves to the drug, and thus to their slave-masters Emphasis mine. When Insorum de-activates the virus, the pleasurable side-effects are gone. No longer being affected by it means the slaves will know they are no longer affected by Vitoc. Pwned. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Xav Vorbarra	Posted - 2005.06.11 10:32:00 - [25] Edited by: Xav Vorbarra on 11/06/2005 10:32:44 Ha, so again with the "it's all in your heads, it didn't happen!" eh? You could just admit that Mabnen I was hit by the "vitoc cure" the Blood Raiders distributed, and they procured it in that whole Hnolku thing. It caused a short, brutal rebellion in which two undesirables fought eachover and suffered heavy losses resulting in Minmatar slaves with stones and tools fighting, and in some cases winning against Amarr soldiers with lasers? Or is that too much to expect? Y'see, I'd expect the skepticism if somebody had reported it here, but when it's on the news channel you kinda give it some credability. They havn't been far from the truth on most of their reports. Ullia Hnolku did die, his wife was captured by the Blood Raiders etc. The EVE Guardian has reported it also. Now who is the general populace going to believe eh? Several prominent news corporations or some disgruntled Amarrians with a case of the sour grapes?
Aodha Khan	Posted - 2005.06.11 11:01:00 - [26] Edited by: Aodha Khan on 11/06/2005 11:02:35 Aodha Khan watches as the Amarrian propoganda machine tries to cover up the Mabnen disaster behind a vale of lies Xav, let them distort the reality of the situation all they want. It will only make our next strike easier. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Herko Kerghans	Posted - 2005.06.11 11:34:00 - [27] Originally by: Discorporation Originally by: Vitoc Chronicle ow, although still an option, few people are brave enough to dare it. Another new feature is the very pleasurable side-effect created by the antidote: for the first few hours after injection the receiver gets a very powerful euphoric sensation - as long as he is affected by the toxic virus. Both these extra features have helped bind the slaves to the drug, and thus to their slave-masters Emphasis mine. When Insorum de-activates the virus, the pleasurable side-effects are gone. No longer being affected by it means the slaves will know they are no longer affected by Vitoc. Pwned. Hum... guess not... -Toxin is injected on the subject (only once) -From there onwards, antidote is injected (at regular intervals) -Subject feels the euphoria during a few hours after the injection of the antidote -If a third substance (insorum) would permanently deactivate the toxin, the slave would not know it until he gets his next injection of antidote (or perhaps if the insorum deactivates the toxin while the pleasurable effects are taking place). Now, the third toxin is spreaded on the atmosphere... 30 minutes later everything is burning... means that if we attribute the whole issue solely to an antidote, in 30 minutes after reaching the atmosphere the antidote -gets spread to ground level, -the slaves get exposed to the antidote, -it takes effect, -the slaves notices, -it somehow knows that it is for sure the cure, -comunicates with all the other slaves -and they decide to revolt. Yeah, maybe, perhaps... --------- The Snow and the Dragon (Caldari children's Tale)
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.06.11 11:38:00 - [28] Edited by: Discorporation on 11/06/2005 11:38:57 Originally by: Herko Kerghans [or perhaps if the insorum deactivates the toxin while the pleasurable effects are taking place). That was my guess. Slaves in euphoria would notice. Underground movements could have made sure the slaves knew a vitoc cure was found and possibly on its way. Originally by: Herko Kerghans Yeah, maybe, perhaps... It's possible. A little fast, yes. It's certainly possible the raiders altered the drug to induce rage as well as remove vitoc. If it was soleley a rage-inducing agent, the guards'd have been afflicted as well. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Gaius Kador	Posted - 2005.06.11 12:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Discorporation Originally by: Vitoc Chronicle ow, although still an option, few people are brave enough to dare it. Another new feature is the very pleasurable side-effect created by the antidote: for the first few hours after injection the receiver gets a very powerful euphoric sensation - as long as he is affected by the toxic virus. Both these extra features have helped bind the slaves to the drug, and thus to their slave-masters Emphasis mine. When Insorum de-activates the virus, the pleasurable side-effects are gone. No longer being affected by it means the slaves will know they are no longer affected by Vitoc. Pwned. There is too much of the gallente in you, Discorporation, and it shows. While you might jump on the bandwagon as another Prophet of Disaster, those of us with real knowledge on the subject of slavery will simply notice the errors in this poorly written piece of tabloid news, and await official investigation. The idea that so many planetbound slaves were injected with the Vitoc is in itself disturbing, and not a common practise throughout the Empire. We have millennia of experience on re-educating the lesser races, the eventual loss of one tool, does nothing to stop us. As for Sarikusa and his leech servants... You call the Empire a complacent giant, and you strike very close to the Truth with that statement. Ironic that the lost now and then profit due to their blissful ignorance. Whatever the results of the official investigation, you have stirred the Empire, and may yet wake it completely. Woe to you then, when the giant responds. ----------------------------------------------
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.06.11 13:11:00 - [30] More common then you think, seeing that one of the largest slave colonies just revolted, mister Kador. Or did your cousin not inform you that his slaves were kept quiet using vitoc [Heterocephalus glaber]

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