EVE Search - PVP Black Bird setup?

Check My IP Information

All Channels

Ships and Modules

PVP Black Bird setup?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Azeal Reece	Posted - 2005.06.12 13:46:00 - [1] Heya just got the bpo for the bb and wondering what mods bpo's i should get for it. Highs im thinking Fof heavies dunno about the rest :/, so any setups would be appriciated, remeber this is for large engangments, so no tanking is really worth it cheers Az
Cannedbeef	Posted - 2005.06.12 13:49:00 - [2] To be honest, I think it depends what other ships are going to be on your side in the engagement. I dont think a BB has enough mid slots, grid/cpu to run a full EW setup, I usually use mine to specialize on jamming two races, webbing/scrambling, or sensor dampening.
Remedial	Posted - 2005.06.12 14:07:00 - [3] 3x heavy missile launchers (2 widowmaker, 1 havoc), 1x medium Nos 1x 10mn AB, 1x warp disruptor, 4x multispectrals 2x cap relays Easy, cheap, effective.
Azeal Reece	Posted - 2005.06.12 14:15:00 - [4] Originally by: Remedial 3x heavy missile launchers (2 widowmaker, 1 havoc), 1x medium Nos 1x 10mn AB, 1x warp disruptor, 4x multispectrals 2x cap relays Easy, cheap, effective. Thanks Remedial, looks about right :)
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2005.06.12 14:36:00 - [5] FoFs do less damage than normal missiles and are used as a backup if you get jammed.
DarkFenix	Posted - 2005.06.12 16:06:00 - [6] Multispecs arent too effective in my experience, go with either racial jammers or sensor damps i reckon.
Remedial	Posted - 2005.06.12 16:09:00 - [7] Originally by: DarkFenix Multispecs arent too effective in my experience, go with either racial jammers or sensor damps i reckon. If you mount 1 of each racial instead of four multis and have no sensor dispersion skill, your total dampening power against any ship is 6 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 12. With four multispectrals your total power is 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 16. While they take more cap, multis are 25% more effective than a mixed racial jammer setup unless you specifically know what kind of ship(s) you'll be fighting.
Danii	Posted - 2005.06.12 16:30:00 - [8] One multispec will jam any ship, some of the time, with the "wonderful" chance based jamming system we have now. I don't know if it was just me that didn't notice, but at some point named multispecs started dropping, with strengths of -4.2, -4.4 etc.
Clementina	Posted - 2005.06.12 16:54:00 - [9] This is a setup I'm fond of. Highs 3 heavy launchers (kenetic missles, what ever their name it) 1 medium nosterafu Meds 4 multipecs 1 sensor booster 1 mwd Lows 2 cap relays there are some tweeks to this setup of course, You could swap the mwd out for another jammer for 5 multipecs and you could get rid of one of the heavy launchers for an assult launcher with defenders. Also about jammers, the named jammers are great, but avoid the tech twos. the tech twos give as much jamming stringth as the best named, but use more cap.
HeLlRaIzA666	Posted - 2005.06.12 17:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Remedial Originally by: DarkFenix Multispecs arent too effective in my experience, go with either racial jammers or sensor damps i reckon. If you mount 1 of each racial instead of four multis and have no sensor dispersion skill, your total dampening power against any ship is 6 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 12. With four multispectrals your total power is 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 16. While they take more cap, multis are 25% more effective than a mixed racial jammer setup unless you specifically know what kind of ship(s) you'll be fighting. erm... jammers dont stack no more, where u been since last patch? they hav chance based, so 1 multi spectral has a chance of jamming anything -------------------------------------------- In War There Are No Runners Up... Image by Denrace

Pesht	Posted - 2005.06.12 18:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka FoFs do less damage than normal missiles and are used as a backup if you get jammed. With level 5 fof missiles you do the same damage with fof as you do with normal missiles, since they also get the normal missile damage bonus ontop of the fof damage bonus. Still not practical to use them as a primary though since you don't get much control over what they go after.
Remedial	Posted - 2005.06.13 04:48:00 - [12] Originally by: HeLlRaIzA666 Originally by: Remedial Originally by: DarkFenix Multispecs arent too effective in my experience, go with either racial jammers or sensor damps i reckon. If you mount 1 of each racial instead of four multis and have no sensor dispersion skill, your total dampening power against any ship is 6 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 12. With four multispectrals your total power is 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 16. While they take more cap, multis are 25% more effective than a mixed racial jammer setup unless you specifically know what kind of ship(s) you'll be fighting. That's 12/X and 16/X where X = sensor strength of the enemy ship. So if the enemy Armageddon has 17 sensor strength, you have about a 12/17 chance of jamming him with one setup and a 16/17 chance of jamming him with the other. erm... jammers dont stack no more, where u been since last patch? they hav chance based, so 1 multi spectral has a chance of jamming anything
Farjung	Posted - 2005.06.13 05:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Remedial Originally by: HeLlRaIzA666 Originally by: Remedial Originally by: DarkFenix Multispecs arent too effective in my experience, go with either racial jammers or sensor damps i reckon. If you mount 1 of each racial instead of four multis and have no sensor dispersion skill, your total dampening power against any ship is 6 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 12. With four multispectrals your total power is 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 16. While they take more cap, multis are 25% more effective than a mixed racial jammer setup unless you specifically know what kind of ship(s) you'll be fighting. That's 12/X and 16/X where X = sensor strength of the enemy ship. So if the enemy Armageddon has 17 sensor strength, you have about a 12/17 chance of jamming him with one setup and a 16/17 chance of jamming him with the other. erm... jammers dont stack no more, where u been since last patch? they hav chance based, so 1 multi spectral has a chance of jamming anything They don't work like that. Each module has an individual chance to jam, like he said, they don't stack. E.g. in your example: Chance to not jam a geddon using 1 multi = 1 - 4/17 = 13/17 Chance to not jam a geddon using 4 multis = (13/17) ^ 4 = 34.2% So chance to jam a geddon using 4 multis = 1 - 0.342 or 65.8%. Chance to not jam a geddon with the correct racial = 1 - 6/17 = 11/17 Chance to not jam a geddon with the incorrect racial = 1- 2/17 = 15/17 Chance to not jam a geddon with one correct racial and three incorrect racials = 11/17 * (15/17)^3 = 44.4% Chance to jam a geddon with one correct racial and three incorrect racials = 55.6% If operating in empire, carrying 4 of each racial with you and refitting as required is ideal, but of course this isn't always possible. Racials also have a greater useful range than multis. Good intel is key to an EW pilot's success nowadays. Someone really needs to keep me away from the Taranis
Justice Bringer	Posted - 2005.06.13 08:32:00 - [14] Originally by: Azeal Reece Heya just got the bpo for the bb and wondering what mods bpo's i should get for it. Highs im thinking Fof heavies dunno about the rest :/, so any setups would be appriciated, remeber this is for large engangments, so no tanking is really worth it cheers Az Well I just built myself a BB so I'm no expert, but if you're in a large fleet battle would the following be any use: Hi: 2 x Assault launcher, rocket launcher - all loaded with defenders med: 5/6 x multi racial, sensor booster/AB II/cap booster/cap recharger. lo: 2 x cpr I was just thinking that you'd be a prime target in a large engagement so you'd need to keep the spammers off your back long enough for your fleet to reduce the attackers to dust. The rocket launcher would be the primary defender and the assaults would augment when the rocket is reloading. I've never been in a fleet encounter, but if I was then I'd think about something like that.
Helmut 314	Posted - 2005.06.13 09:05:00 - [15] BB can be used for other stuff, like remote sensor boosting, tracking boosting, remote armor repair etc. Its a real Multitool with all those medslots. [email protected] or -6@20k scramble strength, anyone ? ___________________________________ Trying is the first step of failure - Homer J Simpson
Plague Black	Posted - 2005.06.13 09:49:00 - [16] PVP as in 1 on 1? Or fleet battles? If you aim to help your fleet go with the following: high: never mind, you are not a damage dealer, something to take care of tacklers like NOS. med: 1 sb, 5 dampers or multis low: 1600mm tungsten, cap relay I (you need that cap) This way you can help your fleet, any other setup and they will cut trough you like trough butter.
Dark Silver	Posted - 2005.06.13 11:01:00 - [17] You might wanna dump that mwd altogether considering that you can jam out to phenominal distances with the right skills anyway Hi: 3 x Heavy Launchers, Med Nos Mid: Sensor Booster, 5 x Multi/Racial Jammers (keep a change in yer hold) Lo: 2 x Cap Pow Relay The only time you might want the MWD and scrambler is if you are alone, but then again a support ship like this shouldn't be alone, its desgined to help people kill without the risk of being shot at themselfs...


Pages: [1] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.