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Pitrolo Orti
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.07 02:57:00 -
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Hi all,
Currently I am in a point where I can pretty much get any of the strategic cruisers in about the same time. After this new patch what is the best T3 Cruiser in your opinion.
Thanks for your help! Your wallet contains only 110.56 ISK, but you require 405,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation. |
Wolvun
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
166
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Posted - 2013.01.07 03:31:00 -
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Proteus. |
Pitrolo Orti
State Protectorate Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.07 03:46:00 -
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Any fits you would like to share? I was told before that Legion is the best because of the ammo issues if you plan to stay long time in a WH and have no POS. Your wallet contains only 110.56 ISK, but you require 405,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation. |
Wolvun
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
166
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Posted - 2013.01.07 03:48:00 -
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What is this solo no POS life you speak of? |
Pitrolo Orti
State Protectorate Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.07 03:50:00 -
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Wolvun wrote:What is this solo no POS life you speak of?
Go in the WH run sites and get out. Hopefully meet a WH corp at some point and join them. But something that in case I get trapped for a long period of time I still have something to fight back and enough space to carry stuff. Your wallet contains only 110.56 ISK, but you require 405,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1019
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Posted - 2013.01.07 04:05:00 -
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Pitrolo Orti wrote:Wolvun wrote:What is this solo no POS life you speak of? Go in the WH run sites and get out. Hopefully meet a WH corp at some point and join them. But something that in case I get trapped for a long period of time I still have something to fight back and enough space to carry stuff.
I saw a guy soloing in a Legion the other day. I couldn't get any DPS online so I literally just had to watch. He was salvaging as he went that surprisingly worked ok it seemed. |
TomyLobo
U2EZ
107
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Posted - 2013.01.07 04:20:00 -
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Join my corp. We are currently recruiting. |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1208
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Posted - 2013.01.07 04:38:00 -
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for PVE? still the tengu. for PVP? proteus |
Wolvun
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
166
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Posted - 2013.01.07 04:39:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:for PVE? still the tengu. for PVP? proteus
So skip the PVE and just go solo proteus like he said. |
Walextheone
The Red Circle Inc.
16
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Posted - 2013.01.07 09:37:00 -
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Yeah the Tengu is still the king for PvE when solo or in small groups. If you are aiming for C1s and C2s you can use other cheaper ship types to get some experience first. TBH joining a WH corp is more fun than try to do everything by your self
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lanyaie
796
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Posted - 2013.01.07 09:50:00 -
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grab a proteus screw sleepers and get some farmer tears :) Hay |
Bliss20
Freyr Vipers Invictus Void
2
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Posted - 2013.01.07 12:34:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:grab a proteus screw sleepers and get some farmer tears :)
Stop playing Blink and take out a fleet yourself! |
lanyaie
796
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Posted - 2013.01.07 12:53:00 -
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Bliss20 wrote:lanyaie wrote:grab a proteus screw sleepers and get some farmer tears :) Stop playing Blink and take out a fleet yourself!
*stalker*
I'm not playing blink..2 more days..I'll play eve again then Hay |
Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Bitten.
104
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:25:00 -
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Proteus for following reasons:
600DPS with its guns while cloaky 50m3 dronebay (25m3 bandwidth) ECM drones let you escape when your tackled. High buffer tank. Spare midslot for web, more jams, cap booster etc.
Tengu for bearing obviously |
chris elliot
EG CORP Talocan United
87
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:59:00 -
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Don't try and make one t3 do two jobs, just don't. You will fail miserably at both.
If you want solo pvp, get a proteus strictly for pvp.
If you want pve, either get a different proteus for that purpose only, or get a tengu.
T3's do not do well when you try and make them do two jobs that have very different requirements.
If you want Proteus fits go scroll around the Ships & Fittings section of the forums for a tick. I know Jack Milton and myself have commented on at least half a dozen threads each in there that contain fittings and uses for Proteus's. |
Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
141
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:20:00 -
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solo proteus is going to battle to kill a well fit PVE tengu. I was jumped in a C4 by a solo proteus in my ultra blinky tengu with a pithum a medium SB, 67 k ehp and 2k tank... proteus never got my shield red for more than 1 rep cycle while I chewed through is huge buffer.. he warped off as I had no way to hold him.. and I still have my tengu.. sold the pithum to get a NM.. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1022
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:02:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:solo proteus is going to battle to kill a well fit PVE tengu. I was jumped in a C4 by a solo proteus in my ultra blinky tengu with a pithum a medium SB, 67 k ehp and 2k tank... proteus never got my shield red for more than 1 rep cycle while I chewed through is huge buffer.. he warped off as I had no way to hold him.. and I still have my tengu.. sold the pithum to get a NM..
Yea honestly, even as much as I love a cloaky proteus, solo you are still limited as to what you can engage. Given the tank and resists of most PVE T3's (like the tengu) a proteus will have a tough time solo.
Maybe non-T3's like a passive drake
Personally that's why my favorite solo ship is still generally a stealth bomber. Yea I'm mostly ganking squishy stuff. But it can still be satisfying putting 2 volleys into a salvaging thrasher that drops 100mil of sleeper loot.
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adding a buddy in a cloaky neut legion however can make tons of difference. |
Comy 1
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
134
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:51:00 -
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A the above dude stated, having an alt or a friend in a cloaky neut legion is awesome.
People hate me for this, but I use my alt in a cloaky probe legion with an armor resist link, mindlink and some unbonused neuts. It might not be optimal but it does what I want it to, call the fit **** as much as you want. But atleast I don't have to waste slots on my proteus, plus I can tackle anything instantly that I come across while scouting. The amount of times you suddenly have an Orca with light support decloak on a wormhole you land on is actually higher than expected. |
Pitrolo Orti
State Protectorate Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.08 15:57:00 -
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Thanks to all for the replies! The focus I am looking for this T3 is making ISK and having funs doing sites in WH and if i see someone in WH other than me I GTFO. I am not yet in the position to drop tons of ISK in PVP in really expensive ships. To satisfy my appetite for tears I PVP in null in cheaper ships :P But my final goal is to make more ISK to be able to PVP more and enjoy the sweet taste of tears :) Your wallet contains only 110.56 ISK, but you require 405,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation. |
Pitrolo Orti
State Protectorate Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:57:00 -
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Bump Your wallet contains only 110.56 ISK, but you require 405,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation. |
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Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
143
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:16:00 -
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What you want then is a drake.. its cheap and can solo c3's. I would have said tengu, but you said too expensive to loose.. When you jump into a wh, go with the thought that you have just lost your ship and you will be podded.. otherwise don't jump in cause its going to happen. |
illy velo
Timber Wolves Splinter Cell.
27
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:55:00 -
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I would recommend you completely scan out the J System with a t2 scanning frigate before committing a T3 to running sites alone in a WH. T3's can scan ok but the frigates are better and cheaper to lose. Once scanned, come back in a non-proby / cloakie ship. Having a scanning alt with you on these trips is ideal for a bunch of reasons. Orbiting the hole cloaked and probing for new sigs are the main ones.
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Pitrolo Orti
State Protectorate Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.09 01:09:00 -
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illy velo wrote:I would recommend you completely scan out the J System with a t2 scanning frigate before committing a T3 to running sites alone in a WH. T3's can scan ok but the frigates are better and cheaper to lose. Once scanned, come back in a non-proby / cloakie ship. Having a scanning alt with you on these trips is ideal for a bunch of reasons. Orbiting the hole cloaked and probing for new sigs are the main ones.
That is exactly what I do and I created all sorts of bookmarks...the thing is that doing site in a drake seems to take forever. I dont know if is because I don't have maxed missiles. I am willing to put the ISK for a T3 at this time and have some to replace but I feel like I dont want to PVP with it. I just want to go in grab what I can of WH without being seen. Pretty much that is the whole idea. All this of course until I find a place to call home. Your wallet contains only 110.56 ISK, but you require 405,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation. |
Marsan
Caldari Provisions
66
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Posted - 2013.01.09 17:50:00 -
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Your problem is the idea that solo in a wormhole will be more profitable, and fun. It isn't. |
Pitrolo Orti
State Protectorate Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.09 23:13:00 -
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Marsan wrote:Your problem is the idea that solo in a wormhole will be more profitable, and fun. It isn't.
I agree but idk why is it so hard to convince people to join me in WH exploration even null sec people. It seems people don't like to try the unknown and to me WH are the best part of EvE and I feel I am missing it out. Your wallet contains only 110.56 ISK, but you require 405,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation. |
Markoh
The Hybrid Box Exodus Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.01.10 03:14:00 -
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Pitrolo Orti wrote:Marsan wrote:Your problem is the idea that solo in a wormhole will be more profitable, and fun. It isn't. I agree but idk why is it so hard to convince people to join me in WH exploration even null sec people. It seems people don't like to try the unknown and to me WH are the best part of EvE and I feel I am missing it out.
Because living in a WH is a pain. I recently just started living in a pos in a c3, low sec static, and I can tell you that it isnt all peachy "lets go mine or gas harvest or run sleepers". It's a lot of prep work and cautious behavior, which isnt comfortable. People want to have fun, and WH space isnt fun all the time.
But, if you are willing to put in the work, you can make your wallet fat enough to spend on pvp ships, while making a plex. Of course having a few buddies makes it that much sweeter, so a WH corp is nice. Just getting members is a ***** , for the sense that it is relatively dangerous all the time.
But **** that I need iskies for Pvp ships, been far to long since ive died in a fire, and the last death i had was so damn lame(stupid stations and their fitting restrictions). So yea its worth the pain of living there to make $$ on gas, artifacts, ore, PI, and get pew pew mobiles.
-edit- Tengu for pve, proteus for pvp, or you can toy around with the protues and make it work, sorta. -edit- |
Irya Boone
Escadron leader
153
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:21:00 -
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Oo you have a LOW sec static and you don't have fun ?oO
Maybe you're doing it wrong a schedule
Connect to the game >> get in a prober ship>> scan the exit and ladar and whatever.
Do 1 hour of gas harvesting ( i like this) do some anomalies in your Own hole maybe 2 or 3 no more.
Get you Pvp Alt and Go in LOW sec do some Noise or go in your other static do some noise
and if your have mates ... it's awesome.
Wormhole Life is just Awesome Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
31
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:23:00 -
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100-mn-tengu! with shield booster. Whatever tries to grab you, kill it :o If you're getting the resist sub you even got 5 launchers, a cloak, a probe launcher!
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Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
31
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:25:00 -
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Irya Boone wrote:and if your have mates ... it's awesome.
Wormhole Life is just Awesome
I totally sign this. Where else you'd just tackle a tengu straight away, batphone your corpmembers and have only like 5 battleships and battlecruisers warp-in!
Much better than k-space 25 man recon-blob coming in! |
Markoh
The Hybrid Box Exodus Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.01.10 18:49:00 -
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Irya Boone wrote:Oo you have a LOW sec static and you don't have fun ?oO
Maybe you're doing it wrong a schedule
Connect to the game >> get in a prober ship>> scan the exit and ladar and whatever.
Do 1 hour of gas harvesting ( i like this) do some anomalies in your Own hole maybe 2 or 3 no more.
Get you Pvp Alt and Go in LOW sec do some Noise or go in your other static do some noise
and if your have mates ... it's awesome.
Wormhole Life is just Awesome
Wish I had more Corp mates :/. But yea , I want to bugger around low sec once I get a good stock of ships. |
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