| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Lavinrac Krad
The Holy Order of the Pimp Slap
0
   |
Posted - 2013.01.07 18:58:00 -
[1] - Quote
Tried swiping loot from another guy's can and could not do it....
Also looking to suicide gank jackasses that fly a pod with a large bounty on them, can a Condor with light Kenetic missles get that done? |
Xuixien
Rifterlings
Damu'Khonde
217
|
Posted - 2013.01.07 19:27:00 -
[2] - Quote
You need to set your Safety to orange.
Everyone vs Everyone
Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
521
|
Posted - 2013.01.08 03:44:00 -
[3] - Quote
Lavinrac Krad wrote:Tried swiping loot from another guy's can and could not do it....
Also looking to suicide gank jackasses that fly a pod with a large bounty on them, can a Condor with light Kenetic missles get that done?
You should probably read up on the Retribution changes. They are most applicable to everything you just asked.
Looting someone else's can requires you to change your "safety" to yellow. Looting said can will make you shootable by anyone, not just the can owner. Redistributing said materail while you suspect (or shootable by everyone) will simply allow the original owner to retake the can with no consequence.
Bounty's pay out a percentage of the ship value now (20% unless I missed a patch change somewhere...they were talking about upping it) and this gets broken up and distributed to everyone in space, in fleet. So an empty pod for someone worth 2 billion will net you like 200k. (Assuming empty pods still register as being valued at 1 mil).
EDIT: In order to do anything that would be strictly criminal (I.E. call in Concord) you'll need to have your safety set to red.
Low sec is special now, in that shooting someone only makes you suspect, not criminal. Podding in low sec will make you criminal and grant a kill right. Kill rights are special snowflakes now and advise reading the blogs and patchnotes.
Lestatra: Eve is now fully committed to pvp . |
Zol Interbottom
Nanotrasen Inc
61
|
Posted - 2013.01.08 10:02:00 -
[4] - Quote
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Lavinrac Krad wrote:Tried swiping loot from another guy's can and could not do it....
Also looking to suicide gank jackasses that fly a pod with a large bounty on them, can a Condor with light Kenetic missles get that done? You should probably read up on the Retribution changes. They are most applicable to everything you just asked. Looting someone else's can requires you to change your "safety" to yellow. Looting said can will make you shootable by anyone, not just the can owner. Redistributing said materail while you suspect (or shootable by everyone) will simply allow the original owner to retake the can with no consequence. Bounty's pay out a percentage of the ship value now (20% unless I missed a patch change somewhere...they were talking about upping it) and this gets broken up and distributed to everyone in space, in fleet. So an empty pod for someone worth 2 billion will net you like 200k. (Assuming empty pods still register as being valued at 1 mil). EDIT: In order to do anything that would be strictly criminal (I.E. call in Concord) you'll need to have your safety set to red. Low sec is special now, in that shooting someone only makes you suspect, not criminal. Podding in low sec will make you criminal and grant a kill right. Kill rights are special snowflakes now and advise reading the blogs and patchnotes.
Crime is such a subjective term in EVE, CONCORD aren't actual police and you can grind sec back up with no real consequences to committing one, i prefer the term Unexpected Unsavory Experience
Nivin Sajjad > we fly perpetually networked, neural interfaced spaceships yet can't communicate coordinates to each other without physically passing back and forth little pieces of paper. it's weird |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
6
|
Posted - 2013.01.08 13:59:00 -
[5] - Quote
You can by switching off your safety.
But call us first. We'd like to be there and welcome you to Retribution, when you turn suspect  - like so many before you...
http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15817023
http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15805821
http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15803874
We like it when people steal and kill stuff  |
Lavinrac Krad
The Holy Order of the Pimp Slap
0
|
Posted - 2013.01.08 17:57:00 -
[6] - Quote
Thanks for the update, was wondering what the hell was going on... So can theft makes you KOS in High sec.? Going to have to figure out how to suicide gank better than. |
Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
99
|
Posted - 2013.01.12 21:28:00 -
[7] - Quote
Lavinrac Krad wrote:Thanks for the update, was wondering what the hell was going on... So can theft makes you KOS in High sec.? Going to have to figure out how to suicide gank better than.
In the time that you have been gone, Eve has received both a buff to Concord, and more recently, a ridiculous buff to the HP of mining barges and Exhumers.
Also, everything has changed since Trinity. EVERYTHING.
Trinity was a huge deal because CCP was completely revamping the graphics of their game. Well guess what? They've done it several times since then. They've switched from dedicating entire expansions to graphic overhaul to doing a few ships, or one aspect of the game at a time. Eve is constantly getting prettier. But as a returning player, assuming you can remember what Trinity looked like, some of the biggest graphic changes to you might be the skyboxes (AKA Nebulas), planets, and I guess all of the ships look a lot better now.
There have been a bunch of ships added to the game since Trinity. And most, if not all of the ships that were around when you were last here do not exist in the same form. They have all had buffs and nerfs and balances over the years. Also, they've added/changed other things: Faction Warfare, Wormholes, Planetary Interaction (with Customs Offices that can be owned by corporations in low and null), Nullsec Sov Mechanics, changes to the bounty system, changes to killrights, changes to aggression, changes to wars. Seriously, like I said, everything about the game has changed since Trinity.
I would just recommend reading all patch notes and dev blogs since 2007 if you want to catch up.  |
Vargrh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.01.12 21:50:00 -
[8] - Quote
"Low sec is special now, in that shooting someone only makes you suspect, not criminal. Podding in low sec will make you criminal and grant a kill right. Kill rights are special snowflakes now and advise reading the blogs and patchnotes."
How does this operate for the sentries? Does this mean I can shoot player characters at a 0.4 - 0.1 gates and the sentries will leave me alone?
What if I shoot at someone in a 0.4 belt and then warp to a gate/station? Will the guns engage?
What about doing this and then warping to zero and jumping into high sec? will the faction navy engage still?
|
Vargrh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.01.12 21:52:00 -
[9] - Quote
Also what about the missing killmails? I had several thousand kills since beta and it now seems I can only see a handfull of kills and losses since 2008... everything prior to this date is gone (yes I was afk for a year or two) when I reinstalled the client..
|
Spheranzinne
Viral Infections
11
|
Posted - 2013.01.12 23:24:00 -
[10] - Quote
can flippin is the essence of eve mechanics. when takin smth is not yours will become impossible, eve will become too RLish to be playable. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2507
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 00:19:00 -
[11] - Quote
Can flipping carries heavier consequences in that now ANYONE can shoot you. Also once you go suspect, anyone can open your can. My advice if you're flipping for profit: flip it into your own can, abandon the can, and then have an alt/friend flip from the blue can into a new one. That will put a can on the field that no one can touch.
Trinity was before my time, but if you relied on neutral logi support, know that it has taken a much needed-nerf. Logis will go suspect if they assist a suspect, and they will also inherit weapons timers that prevent them from docking or jumping.
Suicide ganking is still a viable thing, but a LOT of ship stats have changed and you should familiarize yourself with those changes prior to attempting it.
Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Saints Amongst Sinners
34
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 15:22:00 -
[12] - Quote
Brusanan wrote:Lavinrac Krad wrote:Thanks for the update, was wondering what the hell was going on... So can theft makes you KOS in High sec.? Going to have to figure out how to suicide gank better than. In the time that you have been gone, Eve has received both a buff to Concord, and more recently, a ridiculous buff to the HP of mining barges and Exhumers.
For the butthurt one, before the tank of a mining barge or exhumer was at the level of a wet paper bag, a thinking pilot does not come out with meaningless generalisations that show that they are butt hurt by changes, I am affected by the change to the cane and the coming change to the cane, but I accept it and get on with it!
For the OP, a Hulk is still very easy to gank even with a fitted tank, in fact you will find that ship no different to what you saw before. The Mackinaw can be tanked quite well, but even then a determined group of people who know what they are doing could gank even a tanked one, I reckon 7 gank fit catalyst could do it, if properly executed. However this is Eve, so you find that people do not fit their Mackinaws for tank but for yield, I have seen some Mackinaws that were killed still have cargo rigs on when they have a dedicated ore bay, those miners deserve to have you the OP kicking their butt.
The issue for you is if a miner jumps into a Skiff or a Procurer and tanks it, the Procurer can be set to tank at the level of a Tier 1 BC, while the Skiff can be set to tank at the level of a BS you will have to up your game to kill them, the good news for you is that hardly anyone mines in a Skiff or a Procurer. |
Karrl Tian
Exiled Assassins
155
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 17:11:00 -
[13] - Quote
Lavinrac Krad wrote:Thanks for the update, was wondering what the hell was going on... So can theft makes you KOS in High sec.? Going to have to figure out how to suicide gank better than.
History of Can-flipping:
1) No flagging.
Miner: Waaaaah, this isn't fair. CCP let us defend our cans!
CCP Dev: Okay
2) Can stealing flags you to owner/corp.
Miner: Waaaaah, now people are baiting us into flagging ourselves and killing our mining ships.
CCP Dev: But you just asked for----
Miner: Waaaaahhhh! We spent all our SP on mining barges and we're too stupid not to steal from a flipped can.
CCP Dev:  Why is that our responsibility?
Miner: Waaaaahhh! I'm unsubbing I'll do it! I swear to God I'll do it!
CCP Dev:  Well, since apparently half of our revenue comes from highsec miner subs....
3) Can-fliiping flags you to entire universe, owners gets to take from suspec's can, and barges have a huge orebay.
CCP: Happy now?!?!?!? 
Miner: Waaah, now I'm getting bumped!
CCP Dev: My life can't possibly get any worse.
EA rep: That'sssssss a nice game you have there. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Saints Amongst Sinners
34
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 17:44:00 -
[14] - Quote
Karrl Tian wrote:Lavinrac Krad wrote:Thanks for the update, was wondering what the hell was going on... So can theft makes you KOS in High sec.? Going to have to figure out how to suicide gank better than. History of Can-flipping: silliness....
Generalisation is most amusing, when I started playing Eve I was sitting in a belt, someone came in with a Hulk started mining, then a BS came in and dropped a can, had the same corp name, he left. In came can flipper, flipped can, in came BS and blew the can flipper to hell, young Dracvlad was very impressed...
|
Intar Medris
Federation of Elsinore
35
|
Posted - 2013.02.04 16:52:00 -
[15] - Quote
I like these changes. Now I can get payback whether or not the asshat has done me wrong directly or not. |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
317
|
Posted - 2013.02.04 19:08:00 -
[16] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:Lavinrac Krad wrote:Thanks for the update, was wondering what the hell was going on... So can theft makes you KOS in High sec.? Going to have to figure out how to suicide gank better than. History of Can-flipping: silliness.... Generalisation is most amusing, when I started playing Eve I was sitting in a belt, someone came in with a Hulk started mining, then a BS came in and dropped a can, had the same corp name, he left. In came can flipper, flipped can, in came BS and blew the can flipper to hell, young Dracvlad was very impressed...
That was a test, and the miner failed.
Not kidding there were a couple of corps with members who do that.
Makes the stupid ones get podded and help with the learning by direct known cause and effect. |
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |