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Bas Rutten
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Posted - 2003.07.10 05:51:00 -
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I¦m addressing this directly to Pann cause obviously I¦m not the only one who is less then dissatisfied with the current office availability. I have seen quite a bit of threads regarding exactly this topic, but none, not even in Patch Review, got an official answer so far.
I¦d like to know ... what is CCP planning to do about the office situation?
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Pann
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Posted - 2003.07.10 06:49:00 -
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I'll have to ask the crew about this. The primary focus has been to resolve the issues about factories and labs and the necessity to fix the fix. I'll check into it and report back as soon as I can. =)
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Lexs
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Posted - 2003.07.10 06:53:00 -
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Yea, as of now, our corp's offices are somewhat on the edge of civilization. I think it would be a good idea to make the number of offices directly relate to the average population of a system. In fact, you should do that with factories as well.
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Askari
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Posted - 2003.07.10 09:36:00 -
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Yeah - seeing as all the stations have twice as many slots - hows about giving us twice as many offices as well.
And increase the rent to 10,000isk for an office and 100,000 isk for a corp hanger...
O - and add a permission so members can rent offices instead of just directors. :}
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Urza's Factory
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2003.07.10 09:56:00 -
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Giving individual pilots the option of multi-folder hangars could well reduce the demand for office space. The motivation behind creating my one man corp, was purely so I could organise my hangar, but there is never office space where my factories are.
I end up using spare ships and Cargo containers as folders, but you can't name containers, unless I use Industrials as hangar folders, the ships soon run out of cargo hold.
Edited by: Lao Tzu on 10/07/2003 09:56:32
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Lexs
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Posted - 2003.07.10 09:58:00 -
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And CCP: LIMIT IT TO 1 OFFICE PER CORP , in each system, that will definetely help. It's absolutely rediculus to warp around station by station just to see all slots are taken by the same corps.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.07.10 10:05:00 -
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I keep hearing people go on about the lack of office space, yet i've had no problems at all setting up my recently formed corp with office space. Its there, believe me, you just gotta look, ie, not in duripant or chaven or anywhere with a high sec.
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.07.10 10:09:00 -
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No, this isn't just a problem in busy or n00b areas of space.
I'm hunting around Molden Heath for some office space for my corp - not only is there not any, but several corps (names of the guilty withheld) have rented an office *in each station in the system*!
Madness I say!
I'm cutting some people some slack by suggesting that if you could cancel your office lease, some of those corps might free up their multiple offices.
It's just very very annoying.
Cheers,
TOM
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Lexs
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Posted - 2003.07.10 10:09:00 -
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Offices are easy to find in the middle of nowhere, but who'd want that?
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.07.10 10:10:00 -
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Miso, it's also not out along the fringes where most of the high end content is. To get to the hardest pirates and best ore you have to fly through 10 systems with no station. The stations that have office space are in systems where no one goes. I hear jove space might have an office or two left.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.07.10 10:15:00 -
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ok, i see what you mean lola.
Im in Abaim at the mo, and have had no probs setting up in and around there. I agree that there needs to be more office space in general, and that corps that rent offices in every station in a system are taking the mick somewhat. I think 1 office 1 system is enough for any corp.
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Livak
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Posted - 2003.07.10 11:18:00 -
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"And CCP: LIMIT IT TO 1 OFFICE PER CORP , in each system, that will definetely help. It's absolutely rediculus to warp around station by station just to see all slots are taken by the same corps."
And how would that help. Sometimes labs and fabs are not in the same station and you need multiple offices in the same system.
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Kalar Vrask
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Posted - 2003.07.10 11:40:00 -
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Raise the rentals - 100k a week, allow cancellation.
Problem solved, people will rent offices for 4 or 5 things - production, research, sales, remote base and maybe HQ.
Just allow us to cancel before you put the rental up =p
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.07.10 11:41:00 -
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How about a combined office/factory slot? Whenever you rent a slot, it generates both slots, combined in one tab. Or is this too easy?
If you never use the factory part then you don't get charged, use it, you get charged for the job. Problem solved?
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Kashre
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Posted - 2003.07.10 23:30:00 -
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I agree that rental prices should be increased, as well as cancellations allowed. But 100k a week is probably a bit stiff. that would put a serious kink in the workings of any small, new corporation that banded together to get their feet under them.
Perhaps having rentals be cheap (1k/week) in high security space and then increase in cost as the sec rating went down. Any corp that founds an office in 0.0 space should have the resources to afford more... like, 10 - 25k a week maybe.
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Hralti
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Posted - 2003.07.10 23:47:00 -
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Yeah, office space is ridiculously hard to find. They really need to increase the number of available offices, increase rent, and decrease the rental period.
1 isk for 30 days pretty much lets people rent out offices in every station. AFAIK, there isn't even an option for releasing office space... you have to just not pay.
It is incredibly annoying to go to a system with, say, 4 factory stations and each one is rented out by the exact same corps :-/ |
Lexs
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Posted - 2003.07.11 00:54:00 -
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They should range from 25-50k depending on the system. The 1 isk thing is pretty stupid.
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.07.11 02:40:00 -
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Offices should be unlimited. An office is just a place for members to sign up, and store items, its a necessity. It sucks when all offices are taken up and when your corp tries to move its base of operations there are no corp hangars. So your left stuck there.
Raising office rental prices won't help as it would be to costly to maintain the many offices that corps may have throughout the eve universe. It would kill any exposure small-medium sized corps may have as no one would see their logo and description. The ones most affected is new starting corps. The only unaffected corps would be big name corps.
Anyways I'm at work so I kept it short, I might come back and re-elaborate more clearly later..
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Elis Reik
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Posted - 2003.07.11 03:03:00 -
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I believe that unlimited office space is a bandaid solution. I think corps should have a limited number of possible offices and should be able to dissolve offices to make room for others. This would be the best idea so that every corp wouldn't have an office in every station, making it much more realistic.
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Kurganos
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Posted - 2003.07.11 07:30:00 -
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I think the rent should be related to the size of the corps. More members would logically call for bigger offices and hangers, in my mind. This would also make it less hard for new people with small corps to get started. The exact numbers could be argued of course, but this solution seems reasonable to me.
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Bas Rutten
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Posted - 2003.07.11 08:04:00 -
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Hm ... I see 2 different solutions: give us more rentable offices in stations (not unlimited but a fair and above all reasonable number concerning the station size, which might vary of course) and make the max number of offices rentable depend on the skills a CEO has and maybe put the corp size into concern as well .. that could be a solution. Even if a CEO would train his management skills to the max, even if we¦d see a giant megacorp, they still couldn¦t (possibly) rent an office in each and every station in EVE which right now is theoretically possible and complete nonsense.
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Askari
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Posted - 2003.07.11 08:32:00 -
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SISQO said it all.
an office is just for recruitimg members.
I think they should be removed completely.
Instead there should be a station function that lists corps within the game, and after conversing with the CEO, if they want to join, they go to the HQ.
As for corp hangers, These should be 100,000K a week or something.
Looking at it from a RP perspective, it makes no sense. The factions already placed within the universe would of snapped up every corp hanger there is... unless they were expensive!
16 or 18 or whatever it is per station is ridiculous when any corp can have an unlimited number of them.
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Urza's Factory
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Scarlet Fever
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Posted - 2003.07.11 09:18:00 -
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well, how about an option to fight for office space - takeover the corp in those nice prime locations...
that way if you want a iffice in a prime location (newbie station etc) then not only do you have to pay for it - you have to protect it as well!
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.07.11 11:33:00 -
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Fight for offices? Translation: only large, well-established corps get an office.
How is a corp made up of 3 or 4 newbies supposed to protect an office? People DO start playing a game well after it's released, which means the playing field must be level enough that people who join the game NOW are not forced to join a big established corp.
What we really need is a few things:
1) Put the player starbases in already! Big corps can create their own office (and station) anywhere they want then.
2) Include a set of hangar bays with any factory or lab slot(s). There needs to be a separate place for blueprints, minerals, and finished products, and maybe separate slots for different types of goods. Factories and labs cost far more than offices, so include the same type of corp hangar with them.
3) Limit the number of offices a corp can own. Offices are really only needed for recruiting, sales, or for use as a base of operations, so one per region or so should be plenty (if suggestion #2 is implemented)
The thing to remember at all times is KEEP IT FRIENDLY FOR NEW PLAYERS. No new players = dead game. So no taking offices / factories / labs by force or anything like that, at least in Empire space. 0.0 space though... well, that's an entirely different matter. :)
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