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Xilyphonia
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:00:00 -
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Is it posible? What ship? Which wh class?
Helpz plz :) |
Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:06:00 -
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TENGU ... |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:08:00 -
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Yes. Spaceship. 1-4.
noz probz
Shiva Furnace is recruiting! Small gang PVP in wormholes and lowsec. |
Cheesy Feet
Reconfiguration Nation Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:08:00 -
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There are two guides at the top of the page, best start there
Then this will help with PvE in the different classes of WH sites:-
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpace |
Xilyphonia
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:01:00 -
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Ty for the answeres, the site you provided was very usefull.
Was thinking of running a tengu (a good solo fit would be usefull) on this char, and a scaning/looting alt in something smaller.
I was wondering what exactly brings the isk while running WH sites in lets say C1-4 (bounty, loot, salavage)? And also what is the usual ISK/hour in C1-4 WH? |
Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:08:00 -
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TBH shooting sleepers is soooo 2012... Everyone just mines gas in the Venture these days ... |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:32:00 -
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lol Rek :D
Xily, no bounty from Sleepers, so loot and salvage. Salvage accounts for more of the total in lower classes, and loot (it's called blue loot, basically same type of items as empire tags, it's sold to NPC buy orders) is most of the total value in upper classes (C5/6).
I run only C3s, which are a bit over 100mil on average from anomaly running, to all the way up to 200mil/hr if you're really doing it optimally and if there are magnetometric and radar sites in the system (they are harder combat sites with hackable cans).
As a side note, Sleeper PVE is almost as boring as empire PVE. You'll have a stronger erection, succeed on your career and sleep better if you focus on the main thing what wormholes are about- shooting other players.
Shiva Furnace is recruiting! Small gang PVP in wormholes and lowsec. |
Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:56:00 -
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Once in a while there is actually useful stuff on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/105eqv/daytrippin_a_guide_to_being_a_wormhole_scavenger/ If you are having Smurf problems I feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but a Blue aint one. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:04:00 -
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there is nothing more boring than solo wormhole PVE. while it is profitable it is as repetitive as it gets. warp to one of four differnet types of site, shoot the very same sleeper ships for 15 minutes, then warp in the noctis and salvage. rinse, repeat. mash dscan the whole time like a robot. it does pay well though.
as for the fit, this here will get you through C1 and C2: [Tengu]
[Subsystems] Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
[High Slots] Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Expanded Probe Launcher II
[Med Slots] 10MN Afterburner II Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Medium Capacitor Battery II
[Low Slots] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
[Rigs] Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
the tank is pretty weak for C3 but you can improve it with a crystal set and more expensive hardeners.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
chris elliot
EG CORP Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:26:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:there is nothing more boring than solo wormhole PVE. while it is profitable it is as repetitive as it gets. warp to one of four differnet types of site, shoot the very same sleeper ships for 15 minutes, then warp in the noctis and salvage. rinse, repeat. mash dscan the whole time like a robot. it does pay well though.
as for the fit, this here will get you through C1 and C2: [Tengu]
[Subsystems] Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
[High Slots] Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Expanded Probe Launcher II
[Med Slots] 10MN Afterburner II Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Medium Capacitor Battery II
[Low Slots] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
[Rigs] Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
the tank is pretty weak for C3 but you can improve it with a crystal set and more expensive hardeners.
Damn, I was hoping he would actually have to, you know, work for it.
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Reich Master
kult-i council kult-i
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Posted - 2013.01.09 23:04:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:there is nothing more boring than solo wormhole PVE. while it is profitable it is as repetitive as it gets. warp to one of four differnet types of site, shoot the very same sleeper ships for 15 minutes, then warp in the noctis and salvage. rinse, repeat. mash dscan the whole time like a robot. it does pay well though.
as for the fit, this here will get you through C1 and C2: [Tengu]
[Subsystems] Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
[High Slots] Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Expanded Probe Launcher II
[Med Slots] 10MN Afterburner II Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Medium Capacitor Battery II
[Low Slots] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
[Rigs] Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
the tank is pretty weak for C3 but you can improve it with a crystal set and more expensive hardeners. Oh, I'm going enjoy uncloaking on that with a Prot. Please fit less less tank, and fit no surprises. |
Xilyphonia
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:52:00 -
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Wow, these where rly helpfull. Also I don't mind it beeing boring and repetative, I get enough fun and PvP on my main, was just wondering about the potential profit on this alt.
Also, one more stupid question Do you find the sites you run via system scaner or with probes? |
Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:02:00 -
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Both. You can find sleeper mag and radar sites with probes. They see me trolling, they hating... |
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
533
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:14:00 -
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Did I miss something? Is google no longer a thing?
Seriously, would you like us to run the sites for you as well? |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
741
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:55:00 -
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chris elliot wrote:Damn, I was hoping he would actually have to, you know, work for it.
normally, i would not have bothered to post the fit but i took a look at what google spits out and most of it was shit. the battleclinic results were especially disappointing and in some cases outright frightening.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
741
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:58:00 -
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Reich Master wrote:Oh, I'm going enjoy uncloaking on that with a Prot. Please fit less less tank, and fit no surprises.
please don't hurt me mister piwate sir! i'm pregnant with scourge missiles...
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
lanyaie
797
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Posted - 2013.01.10 23:19:00 -
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proteus is great for solo pvp runs :) Hay |
chris elliot
EG CORP Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.01.11 08:57:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:chris elliot wrote:Damn, I was hoping he would actually have to, you know, work for it. normally, i would not have bothered to post the fit but i took a look at what google spits out and most of it was shi t. the battleclinic results were especially disappointing and in some cases outright frightening.
The tears on that battleclinic are a special brand of yummy. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
529
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:06:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:the battleclinic results were especially disappointing and in some cases outright frightening.
seems legit |
infra52x
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.13 23:33:00 -
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Paikis wrote:Did I miss something? Is google no longer a thing?
Seriously, would you like us to run the sites for you as well?
Google has this forum as a search result.......How about that, who would have thought that the eve forums would actually have useful information about running wormholes in a thread called Wormholes...
To answer your two questions above, I suggest you follow your own advice and fooking google it.
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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.01.14 00:39:00 -
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I spent a lot of my previous eve-time solo dwelling in w-space as owner-occupier of C2, C3, C4, and C5 systems. When I started the best I could muster was a hurricane or maelstrom, and C2 sites were difficult. As my skills and experience improved I moved on to rattlesnakes and tengu and then just tengu. You can solo all C5 sites (non-capital-escalation component only of course) and you can make a decent income from solo C5 occupancy GǪ but I would not recommend that.
It has been around a year since I have done any w-space PvE but my experience was that a decent C3 offered the best income-effort ratio for the solo or semi-solo wormholer. C4 and C5 sites returned more isk per site, but my isk-per-week was always greatest in a C3. IGÇÖm not gonna quote any sort of isk amounts, because some tool will always come in to bignote that they make more, and because isk-per-hour is not such a meaningful statistic when youGÇÖre talking about w-space. You *can* harvest 150 million isk worth of stuff after ten minutes of shooting and a few minutes of looting / salvaging GǪ but none of that is isk in your wallet until you have safely hauled it to empire space and sold it off (or used it to build tengu which you then sell off).
I accessed all resources available, but dropped mining after a while. W-space PI is great, even though PI itself is horrible. W-space gas harvesting is a reasonable income source. W-space GÇÿrattingGÇÖ GÇô killing and salvaging / looting the sleepers in grav and ladar sites without harvesting the resources GÇô can also be fairly lucrative. The cosmic anomalies are usually your bread and butter, and the mag and radar sigs can be the icing on the cake GÇô tougher but usually better income.
Some people live in one w-system and use their GÇÿstaticGÇÖ wormhole to regularly harvest neighbouring systems. I did not do this, and donGÇÖt see it as being particularly attractive unless you have a larger group and need to access those additional sites to provide everyone with a decent income.
If your just starting then IGÇÖd recommend a C2 if you have no problems soloing all lvl4 missions, or a C1 otherwise. IMO a hisec static, common in those classes of w-system, is more a liability than a benefit GǪ you will get enough hisec K162s to haul your goodies out to empire. I always chose systems with very good PI, no system effects (e.g. not blackhole or other), and with either lowsec or nullsec statics if to empire or C2 statics otherwise. I found my own system in some cases but mostly purchased from the market (got scammed once, but was too hasty on that occasion).
Like anything in eve w-space PvE can become boring, but you always have the option of moving to a tougher class of w-system, and you can always take GÇÿholidaysGÇÖ to pursue whatever other venture empire space offers. Living in w-space is demanding and is certainly not for everyone, but it can be a lot of fun and very rewarding.
We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |
Xilyphonia
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.14 08:49:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote:I spent a lot of my previous eve-time solo dwelling in w-space as owner-occupier of C2, C3, C4, and C5 systems. When I started the best I could muster was a hurricane or maelstrom, and C2 sites were difficult. As my skills and experience improved I moved on to rattlesnakes and tengu and then just tengu. You can solo all C5 sites (non-capital-escalation component only of course) and you can make a decent income from solo C5 occupancy GǪ but I would not recommend that.
It has been around a year since I have done any w-space PvE but my experience was that a decent C3 offered the best income-effort ratio for the solo or semi-solo wormholer. C4 and C5 sites returned more isk per site, but my isk-per-week was always greatest in a C3. IGÇÖm not gonna quote any sort of isk amounts, because some tool will always come in to bignote that they make more, and because isk-per-hour is not such a meaningful statistic when youGÇÖre talking about w-space. You *can* harvest 150 million isk worth of stuff after ten minutes of shooting and a few minutes of looting / salvaging GǪ but none of that is isk in your wallet until you have safely hauled it to empire space and sold it off (or used it to build tengu which you then sell off).
I accessed all resources available, but dropped mining after a while. W-space PI is great, even though PI itself is horrible. W-space gas harvesting is a reasonable income source. W-space GÇÿrattingGÇÖ GÇô killing and salvaging / looting the sleepers in grav and ladar sites without harvesting the resources GÇô can also be fairly lucrative. The cosmic anomalies are usually your bread and butter, and the mag and radar sigs can be the icing on the cake GÇô tougher but usually better income.
Some people live in one w-system and use their GÇÿstaticGÇÖ wormhole to regularly harvest neighbouring systems. I did not do this, and donGÇÖt see it as being particularly attractive unless you have a larger group and need to access those additional sites to provide everyone with a decent income.
If your just starting then IGÇÖd recommend a C2 if you have no problems soloing all lvl4 missions, or a C1 otherwise. IMO a hisec static, common in those classes of w-system, is more a liability than a benefit GǪ you will get enough hisec K162s to haul your goodies out to empire. I always chose systems with very good PI, no system effects (e.g. not blackhole or other), and with either lowsec or nullsec statics if to empire or C2 statics otherwise. I found my own system in some cases but mostly purchased from the market (got scammed once, but was too hasty on that occasion).
Like anything in eve w-space PvE can become boring, but you always have the option of moving to a tougher class of w-system, and you can always take GÇÿholidaysGÇÖ to pursue whatever other venture empire space offers. Living in w-space is demanding and is certainly not for everyone, but it can be a lot of fun and very rewarding.
Wow, you realy put an effort in it :)
Thanks to everyone, that would be all the information I needed.
GL, and fly safe boys and girls \o
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