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Rahmiro
Wormhole Exploration Crew R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:10:00 -
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We had a hs close to Jita last night so I thought hmmm I'll purchase a ship that I have decent skills for (heavy assault ships IV) but have never flown and know little to nothing about. Having recently trained hams, I bought a sac.
An alliance mate linked a buffer fit so I went with that. We has logi sometimes. I did fit a Dread Guristas Warp Disruptor. After a bit of research I see some folks like to active tank it. Is this the "right way"? Would you mind sharing a fit or two?
I plan to use it for small gang lowsec and null expeditions (pvp). Forgive my ignorance but I feel like this is flown somewhere between brawling and kitting or both kinda. If that makes any sense.
Please share your experiences with me.
Rahmiro
I never seen these people in my life. I don't recognize them Your Honor |

Batelle
Aliastra
115
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:33:00 -
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My (limited) understanding of the sacriledge is that it makes an excellent active tanked pvp ship for several reasons. The bonuses are well suited for it. Missile systems require no capacitor, which is suitable for active tanking. 4 mids allow pvp-trinity + cap booster. Lastly...
615m3 cargo space. You won't run out of boosters for a looong time. Fighting is Magic |

Rahmiro
Wormhole Exploration Crew R.E.P.O.
16
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:41:00 -
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What about rigs? Faster reps or more rep amount per cycle?
Do I drop the plate altogether and just lean on the resist? I never seen these people in my life. I don't recognize them Your Honor |

Kasutra
Tailor Company Hashashin Cartel
123
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:01:00 -
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Batelle wrote:My (limited) understanding of the sacriledge is that it makes an excellent active tanked pvp ship for several reasons. The bonuses are well suited for it. Missile systems require no capacitor, which is suitable for active tanking. 4 mids allow pvp-trinity + cap booster. Lastly...
615m3 cargo space. You won't run out of boosters for a looong time.
Only thing wrong with the analysis is that medium armor reppers are kind of crap, while logis on resistance-bonused HACs are decidedly not so. |

Rahmiro
Wormhole Exploration Crew R.E.P.O.
16
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:10:00 -
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So that's a vote for the buffer fit then.
I did see a video where a guys appears to be using two reppers and no bcu.
I never seen these people in my life. I don't recognize them Your Honor |

loki energon
Voodoo Children Workers Trade Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.12 03:25:00 -
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i love my sacrilege.
you are right about the way to fly, with mwd, my ship runs about 1400 m/s. HAMs give me roughly 15km. set orbit to 8500m and go like hell.. you end up in a looping eliptical that passes the target in a strafing type run. the basic fit i built can be adjusted to do pve, or pvp simply. i use salvage drones in bay for solo WH work.
highs
cloak 1 5x HAM II
mids
2x cap recharger II 10mn MWD disrupter, scramble, target painter, tracking disrupter.
lows
energized adaptive nano membrane II med armor repper II DCU II 2x BCU II
this ship is cap stable with either repper OR mwd. so run one and pulse the other as needed. 15k ehp 560 dps 1386 m/s kill em all. |

Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
590
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Posted - 2013.01.12 09:11:00 -
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Sac is one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" ships. The ships lacks a role in fleets&gangs and is for the most part a solo brawler. Problem is that solo brawlers don't tend to do well against good pvpers, they're fine at taking out idiots in big ships though. There's a few fits that work, AB+active tank+scram, MWD+plate and MWD+shield extenders.
Active tanked has really REALLY low EHP and is very susceptible to neuts, on the plus side its tanking is good enough to stay in the fight against bigger ships but it's completely useless in gang vs gang pvp. Plate version is more gang friendly but pretty much outclassed by the Drake. The shield fit is remarkably good for solo. They all have their role and scenario where they're great and many scenarios where they suck. So unless you KNOW the exact scenario you'll end up in there's a big chance you'll get the wrong fit. Would you run into a BS that doesn't have neuts you want the active tanked fit, but if it HAS neuts you really don't and against a Hurricane for instance you really don't want the active tanked one either, etc etc etc.
It's one of those ships that has a very small niche where it works, which differs per fit, and many others where it's crap. As such it's difficult to place them, understand them and use them. That's why you see so few. Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
411
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Posted - 2013.01.12 13:21:00 -
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loki energon wrote:i love my sacrilege.
you are right about the way to fly, with mwd, my ship runs about 1400 m/s. HAMs give me roughly 15km. set orbit to 8500m and go like hell.. you end up in a looping eliptical that passes the target in a strafing type run. the basic fit i built can be adjusted to do pve, or pvp simply. i use salvage drones in bay for solo WH work.
highs
cloak 1 5x HAM II
mids
2x cap recharger II 10mn MWD disrupter, scramble, target painter, tracking disrupter.
lows
energized adaptive nano membrane II med armor repper II DCU II 2x BCU II
this ship is cap stable with either repper OR mwd. so run one and pulse the other as needed. 15k ehp 560 dps 1386 m/s
Cap rechargers /o\ |

Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
66
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Posted - 2013.01.12 16:28:00 -
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I have had some succes with this:
[Sacrilege, PVP V.1] 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II 10MN Microwarpdrive II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Hornet EC-300 x3
Rigs, drones and prop mod to your flavor but under most circumstances this fit proved to have more survivability and dps power than most I have tried.
Edit: With maxed skills ie; Heavy Assult Ships V, Armor, Capacitor and HAM's all at V the Sac is a beast in its on class as a brawler. Oderint Dum Metuant |

Klown Walk
New Eden Renegades Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
194
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:53:00 -
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[Sacrilege, sac] Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Shadow Serpentis Armor EM Hardener Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Improved Cloaking Device II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Warrior II x3
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
459
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Posted - 2013.01.12 19:59:00 -
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He asked for a pew ship and get cloak fits .. what is the world coming to 
Centii C-Type Small Armor Repairer Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Ballistic Control System II
10MN Microwarpdrive II Medium Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II
5x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II [empty high slot]
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
You don't need cap on demand with nil energy weapons and you'll get 5+ minutes of everything but MWD going (expect to be scrammed). Sacrilege has the CPU to spare and batteries are not used at all so they are essentially free .. the recently added neut/nos retaliation feature just sweetens the deal .. Swap battery for injector+med neut if you don't trust a static cap reservoir and want some extra leverage against cap users.
Now who do I talk to in order for the batteries to get buffed even further .. they are still rather bland?  |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
415
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Posted - 2013.01.12 20:14:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/AmOv1.jpg
Since i lost my pyfa folder here is a Promfit |

Spheranzinne
Viral Infections
10
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Posted - 2013.01.12 22:40:00 -
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i run mine with plate and medium repper. dual repper works also, but very vulnerable to alpha snipin ships. large blasters are also an issue. the sac has great resists but the ehp is not that great when dual repped. nice hac overall. |

Sushi Nardieu
Bite Me inc Bitten.
43
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Posted - 2013.01.14 09:53:00 -
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If you're going to pvp with this ship, you will need
Dual Rep Exile Booster Cap Boosters
rest is up to you.
single rep = PvE
Personally,
Nos in high scram + web + cap booster + mwd dual rep EANM + DC BCS x1 Guns of Knowledge-á |

witchking42
UNFRL Fleet Operations
106
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Posted - 2013.01.14 13:46:00 -
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Rixx over at Evoganda has done a few good blogs about his beloved Sac...
http://eveoganda.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/learn-to-fly-sacrilege.html
http://eveoganda.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/year-of-sac.html
wk |

Rahmiro
Wormhole Exploration Crew R.E.P.O.
16
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Posted - 2013.01.14 23:03:00 -
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I appreciate the feedback. I ended up with a buffer fit and a duel rep. Now just need pickup some boosters.
Thanks again. I never seen these people in my life. I don't recognize them Your Honor |
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