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superscarface
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Posted - 2005.06.22 10:25:00 -
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Ive been playing for 1 year now in eve and can¦t afford to create a new character/buy another account. My attributes suck, i have 17 perception with a +3 implant and advanced learning 4 on a pvp oriented character :/ 13.8mil skill points.
Whats the scoop on attribute modifiers? Or basically anything to do with attributes in the future. I have searched the forums for a while to no avail
Is there any hope!!
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Ds Crash
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Posted - 2005.06.22 10:32:00 -
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wow u really have started on a low perc attribute. Base 5 I take it. Well if you have the isk there are always the +5 implants to consider provided u have 650m+ to spare.. then there are +7 implants still to come and boosters(which boosts one of your attributes while lower the others) and if you waited another 1 and a half years they might bring out Expert Learning skills..
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.06.22 10:35:00 -
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17 perception! that kind of sucks, hows your intel/mem? mabye you could become a e/w specialist.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.06.22 17:34:00 -
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I'm at 12million sp and have 4 starting perception. Its perfectly survivable, I pvp a fair bit. Just get your ceptors/af/covops and small (whatever) specialization and be proficient in everything else perception/willpower wise. Then specialize in mining, industry, science (lol), EW or anything else perception/willpower related.
Tactics >> greater than having 5 instead of 3 or 4 on a given skill, and even in a AF/ceptor 1vs1 knowing what you're doing is worth more than having small (blank) specilization 5 and having a HAC in the hangar. So long as your battleship can hit out to 100km and deal some damage and your ceptor/af can hit the broad side of a barn in a squadron and your covert ops can find enemy ships then you're fine. Thats my take anyways.
That said - an implant that say took cybernetics 5 and took points from your top attribute and added them to your lowest would be nice. :)
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.22 20:42:00 -
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No hope really, the attribute system is an old one that wasn't designed very well to begin with. Oh who am i kidding, it bloody sucks ass.
Train clarity V and pray that some day they balance the attribute system ________________________________________________________
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MrBadidea
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Posted - 2005.06.23 15:57:00 -
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Theres news lying around of numerous new implants that should be able to boost specific attributes at the detriment of others in planning, and there are also the "boosters" that aren't too far over the horizion either (too far being soon™)
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Rodge
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Posted - 2005.06.23 16:32:00 -
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Ouch! I thought I was bad with my 16 perc on a combat character! Hey, I'm not much better....
I plug in a +3 perc implant and did train clarity 5, so I do have 20 perc now. Sure it's only temporary (podding is part of the risk), but it's not as if +3 implants are all that expensive anymore.
My willpower is also crap (17 with a +2 implant and focus 4). I have a +4 will implant to plug in, but I'm not taking my other one out to do it. That's just asking to get podded on the same day....
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.06.23 21:07:00 -
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14 perc with no implants and advanced learning 4
8.5 mill SP in gunnery - got there slower but got there!!
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.23 21:35:00 -
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20 perc with a +4 + clarity V
I used to think my lowest attribute was charisma but it turns out it's actually perc, the attribute i use the most ________________________________________________________
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Deileon
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Posted - 2005.06.24 02:23:00 -
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I don't care how low your perc is, don't train Clarity 5. I assume you have both Clarity AND Focus L4? And +3 implants for perc and will? And Learning 5? Those should be a given, except for the implants if you die a lot. If you want to boost your weapon/ship learning speed until you go into dangerous PvP, pop for a +4 perc implant (and +4 will if you are rich and impatient.) Beyond that, I would say, just suck it up and accept your training times. No matter how bad your perc is, Clarity 5 will simply waste the training time you DO have. Look at the plethora of Adv.5 learning math out there, if you have any doubts.
They say bananas are a dish best served cold... |
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.06.24 10:50:00 -
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SoonÖ there will be attribute changers. I saw them in some database a while ago, but i dont expect them coming patch.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.24 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Deileon I don't care how low your perc is, don't train Clarity 5. I assume you have both Clarity AND Focus L4? And +3 implants for perc and will? And Learning 5? Those should be a given, except for the implants if you die a lot. If you want to boost your weapon/ship learning speed until you go into dangerous PvP, pop for a +4 perc implant (and +4 will if you are rich and impatient.) Beyond that, I would say, just suck it up and accept your training times. No matter how bad your perc is, Clarity 5 will simply waste the training time you DO have. Look at the plethora of Adv.5 learning math out there, if you have any doubts.
The math for that has to do with training all advanced learning to lvl5.
I trained clarity V and don't have any regrets since like 80% of all my training uses perception. ________________________________________________________
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hectiQ
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Posted - 2005.06.24 22:13:00 -
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I must have the lowest perception... I started with 3 perception as base. I really hope they are going to put in attribute changers..
Someone who picked the wrong specialization when creating a character is kinda f*cked now. I'm starting to like combat, but with this low perception I would have to train for ages for my skills.
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Carter83
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Posted - 2005.06.25 03:14:00 -
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Wait til boosters come out or just buy someone elses account... or if you like starting from scratch buy the best implants you can get your hands on stick it on another char, that way you can still have fun with your current char and your learning and basic gunnery should be outa the way in no time
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superscarface
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Posted - 2005.06.25 17:51:00 -
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Well i hope for all our sakes this situation improves, nice to know im not the only one then
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Espen
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Posted - 2005.06.26 01:44:00 -
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Balance the attribute system!!!
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Plim
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Posted - 2005.06.26 02:00:00 -
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Its the wonders of being intaki, i've been playing for like 2 years, and have around 16mill skill points w00t! -----------------
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Deileon
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Posted - 2005.06.26 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius The math for that has to do with training all advanced learning to lvl5.
I trained clarity V and don't have any regrets since like 80% of all my training uses perception.
Well if you still play after your next 2.3 years or so of perception-primary skill training, then it was worth it.
They say bananas are a dish best served cold... |
Icomeinpeace
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Posted - 2005.06.26 07:19:00 -
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When I started out I took a look at the skills I wanted to train most and made my perception/willpower the highest so they had beter not change anything
You should have looked into what you wanted to train, and what attributes are most useful towards those skills plain and simple.
I did it so I don't really feel your pain sorry...
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.06.26 17:53:00 -
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Random luck gave me 23 percep, 25 willpower with some free +2 implants and adv learning skills at 3 ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Coasterbrian > babies are good, especially raw Coasterbrian > soft and crunchy at the same time
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Syrec
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:04:00 -
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You aren't that bad off. I have perception 4, training to 5 and advanced now actually. I have around 16 or whatever. The thing is, some players don't have implants and don't want to waste tons of time doing too many learning skills. You aren't that far behind.
imo attrribute system sucks also but oh well, what'r you going to do? My attributes kind of suck also. They are spread out because I don't like to specialize in games, and I'd like to train in many things.
both of us are intaki, so stuck with the charisma we don't want.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:40:00 -
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y did u guys make abysmally unbalanced characters - my character was made to have all the stats (apart from charisma, which was lower) to decent enough lvls that i could do anything i wanted (was new to EVE, so i thought the choice would be nice )
now my stats are 23,22,12,22,23 (not much training and only a +1 implant in char, cos i never use it) and i can train fast enough at everything i need
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:42:00 -
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24int/16perc
can I change that?
but basicly, Im nearly done with gunnery now
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.07.27 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sir JoJo on 27/07/2005 17:14:46 hehe 24charisma 16 perception whit no implants..... i am loking forward to boosters my charisma is gonna be raped ------------- |
Meridius
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Posted - 2005.07.27 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing y did u guys make abysmally unbalanced characters
Willpower used to be the gunnery primary, hence why i have 27 willpower ________________________________________________________
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Vengeance Rake
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Posted - 2005.07.27 19:36:00 -
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Are these "booster" implants actually planned or are they just an idea floating around the community?
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Jelosavich
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Posted - 2005.07.27 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sir JoJo Edited by: Sir JoJo on 27/07/2005 17:14:46 hehe 24charisma 16 perception whit no implants..... i am loking forward to boosters my charisma is gonna be raped
It looks like it already was...
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2005.07.28 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: HippoKing y did u guys make abysmally unbalanced characters
Willpower used to be the gunnery primary, hence why i have 27 willpower
Old skool combat attrib build. Amarr with maxed willpower. I remember that advice. Now I have TWO characters with crap attribs. This one with high Charisma, and an alt with high willpower.
ugh.
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2005.07.29 08:20:00 -
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something is planned to be able to trade points from an attribute to another. I think it's called dna mutator :p
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.08.01 10:05:00 -
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Being an intaki industrialist was great till I went into pvp, over two years in game and 20m sp
Cant afford implants usually :/
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