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Komen
Capital Enrichment Services Transmission Lost
155
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Posted - 2013.01.13 07:36:00 -
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...I live in wormholes and I'm completely (mostly) uninformed of what goes on in hi-sec these days. How much does one of these permits go for out of curiosity? Not that I go mining, I'm just pondering whether I too could go around extorting idiots in hulks for profit. If nothing else it would beat the hell out of PI for entertainment value. |

Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
283
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Posted - 2013.01.13 07:37:00 -
[32] - Quote
Well, if they get smart Highsec Miners can always move to wormholes, plenty of gravs, no ganks, T3 fleet on standby just HOPING someone tries to scan you down so they can ambush them.
why isnt null like this? last time i was out there and saw a miner in a belt, he POS'd up and never left, neither did a fleet arrive even after half an hour fo me sitting outside aforementioned POS.
k-space makes me sad, you have Local and your STILL scared to take on a maller in a 1v1. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3207
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Posted - 2013.01.13 07:39:00 -
[33] - Quote
Nariya Kentaya wrote:Well, if they get smart Highsec Miners can always move to wormholes, plenty of gravs, no ganks, T3 fleet on standby just HOPING someone tries to scan you down so they can ambush them.
why isnt null like this? last time i was out there and saw a miner in a belt, he POS'd up and never left, neither did a fleet arrive even after half an hour fo me sitting outside aforementioned POS.
k-space makes me sad, you have Local and your STILL scared to take on a maller in a 1v1. You know what happened today? Boat got a supercap kill by baiting it.
One guess what ultra-important module was used. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Keisha Mei Ash
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.13 07:48:00 -
[34] - Quote
Yep, from what I can tell, there are only 21 registered users on the Minerbumping forums, and there haven't been any comments on the blog for several hours, so they came to GD for reactions.
Great job, capsuleers, you gave them what they wanted. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2089
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Posted - 2013.01.13 08:06:00 -
[35] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:Well, if they get smart Highsec Miners can always move to wormholes, plenty of gravs, no ganks, T3 fleet on standby just HOPING someone tries to scan you down so they can ambush them.
why isnt null like this? last time i was out there and saw a miner in a belt, he POS'd up and never left, neither did a fleet arrive even after half an hour fo me sitting outside aforementioned POS.
k-space makes me sad, you have Local and your STILL scared to take on a maller in a 1v1. You know what happened today? Boat got a supercap kill by baiting it. One guess what ultra-important module was used. Honor tank? :P |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2116
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Posted - 2013.01.13 08:07:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:To me it looks like a smart, roleplaying money making scheme. More emergent and effective at grabbing ISK and attention than anything else though.
Reading James 315's blog is one of the highlights of my day. Clearly there are more efficient ways to acquire isk. This is sandbox gameplay at its finest, where YOU and YOUR actions can affect the whole shard. Look at how many threads we have had about the New Order in the last few months, hell CCP is probably gonna change the game and nerf bumping because of them, which would be a travesty.
All because most players want to take the little shreds of content from developers in a sandbox game where they, the player is given the tools to generate their own content, and then just run it into the ground doing the same missions over and over and over or mining the same belts over and over and never seek to interact with or affect their system, corp, alliance, region, constellation, or server doesn't invalidate the New Orders playstyle.
Always follow orders little bees |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
716
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Posted - 2013.01.13 08:15:00 -
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Last thing that keep me from mining is fact that im able to earn 150-200% more isk per hour on lv4 while using two tengu or like tengu + dominix, than while siting one hour on betls while using orca + hulk even worse orca + one mack in ICE field.
These days minerals and ship prices - production are very good source to earn money but still far away if i compare it to combat pve game style while using well skiled toons, mining is efficient only on multiple box while using like minium 3-4 toons.
Im not afraid of kamikaze , bumpers etc, i play more than 6 yeas and i spent a lot time on belts during my career in EvE, EvE is big space and is easy to avoid ganks even these days, i dont mining only becaus low profit if i compare mining efficienty isk progres to mission runing.
EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3662
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Posted - 2013.01.13 08:16:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote: Reading James 315's blog is one of the highlights of my day. Clearly there are more efficient ways to acquire isk. This is sandbox gameplay at its finest, where YOU and YOUR actions can affect the whole shard. Look at how many threads we have had about the New Order in the last few months, hell CCP is probably gonna change the game and nerf bumping because of them, which would be a travesty.
All because most players want to take the little shreds of content from developers in a sandbox game where they, the player is given the tools to generate their own content, and then just run it into the ground doing the same missions over and over and over or mining the same belts over and over and never seek to interact with or affect their system, corp, alliance, region, constellation, or server doesn't invalidate the New Orders playstyle.
Who says it should be "invalidated"?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2862
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Posted - 2013.01.13 08:19:00 -
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Personally I like option 4. Fit a full blown tank and watch New Order terribles lose ships left and right and scoop their loot. Also the New Order tears in local are divine.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
316
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Posted - 2013.01.13 08:28:00 -
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Looks like a New Order stealth whine thread for not selling enough mining permits. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3207
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Posted - 2013.01.13 08:41:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:To me it looks like a smart, roleplaying money making scheme. More emergent and effective at grabbing ISK and attention than anything else though. Reading James 315's blog is one of the highlights of my day. Clearly there are more efficient ways to acquire isk. This is sandbox gameplay at its finest, where YOU and YOUR actions can affect the whole shard. Look at how many threads we have had about the New Order in the last few months, hell CCP is probably gonna change the game and nerf bumping because of them, which would be a travesty. I hope you're prepared for the next "balancing" changes then.
No More Heroes wrote:All because most players want to take the little shreds of content from developers in a sandbox game where they, the player is given the tools to generate their own content, and then just run it into the ground doing the same missions over and over and over or mining the same belts over and over and never seek to interact with or affect their system, corp, alliance, region, constellation, or server doesn't invalidate the New Orders playstyle. No it doesn't. But CCP can make it nigh impossible, with the right ~game mechanics~ and a dose of ~NPCs~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

terzslave
RedStar Enterprises RA Citizens
130
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Posted - 2013.01.13 08:53:00 -
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Mine where the gankers aren't. Stay aligned to station or safespot. Keep an eye on local. Warp out it there's a spike on local or D-scan. Seriously people quit bitching all the time and actually play the game. How do you think miners in nullsec deal with it? |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1587
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Posted - 2013.01.13 08:54:00 -
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Originally I felt nothing but contempt for the cowards of EvE.
But this post is so, so sad, it is obviously a cry for help from a group at the edge of oblivion.
Feel sorry for these sad, sad little people. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread
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Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
2536
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Posted - 2013.01.13 09:22:00 -
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Except that this isn't actually true at all. There are lots of things to do against the New Order, but people simply aren't smart enough to do them.
*shrugs* Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce Brosefs.
107
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Posted - 2013.01.13 09:30:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Except that this isn't actually true at all. There are lots of things to do against the New Order, but people simply aren't smart enough to do them.
*shrugs*
Please come up with things you can do against them that don't achieve the new orders ends..... Since counter ganking them is achieving their aims.
I'm one of those players who mine (on other accounts) who believe there is nothing to do against them.... Of course, the New Order also can't do anything to me. I can just ignore them, realign, dock up if they actually manage to be enough of a pain in my belts. And if they gank me, I can make it cost them more to gank me than I loose quite easily.
So, DON'T pay their fees, because they can't hurt you unless you let them. Just ignore them, don't cry about it, don't try and gank them, just let them play their little games, and play yours. In the long run, the miners will win as long as they play their own game and don't let the New Order tell them what that game will be. |

Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
2536
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Posted - 2013.01.13 09:46:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:In the long run, the miners will win as long as they play their own game and don't let the New Order tell them what that game will be. No. In the long run you people will go extinct, because you are unable to adapt.
I'd be dumb to help any miner, especially for FREE, considering they don't deserve help !
They only whine ! They don't even try !
You deserve what's happening to you.
You brought it to yourself ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
232
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Posted - 2013.01.13 09:47:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Please come up with things you can do against them that don't achieve the new orders ends..... Since counter ganking them is achieving their aims. With one of the New Order's aims being to liberate high-sec miners from their drudgery and bot-like existence, any action miners take to protect themselves is achieving "the new orders ends" by default. You're stepping up and playing the game. The New Order wins, even if it "loses." "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |

Dave stark
1504
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Posted - 2013.01.13 09:55:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Please come up with things you can do against them that don't achieve the new orders ends.....
mine anywhere other than that one solitary system they seem to be having a circle-jerk in? if i didn't frequent the forums then i'd have no idea they existed. honestly, they're a forum annoyance and very little else. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce Brosefs.
107
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Posted - 2013.01.13 09:55:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Rant against me.....! Thankyou for proving my point by abusing me as if I am unable to adapt to anything, rather than listing the nebulous 'lots of things' you claimed would be practical that would work 'against' the new order. I personally am quite able to adapt, nor do I whine about gank attempts on me.
As for Yuri, basically, yes, you are right. hence why I say to just ignore them. I'm yet to get bumped by one of them, though I don't full time mine myself, so they may have just missed me. And even if one day I do, I can just basically ignore it, if I don't react other than continuing mining, they don't get a win. |

Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
2536
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:00:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Rant against me.....! Thankyou for proving my point by abusing me as if I am unable to adapt to anything, rather than listing the nebulous 'lots of things' you claimed would be practical that would work 'against' the new order. I personally am quite able to adapt, nor do I whine about gank attempts on me. As for Yuri, basically, yes, you are right. hence why I say to just ignore them. I'm yet to get bumped by one of them, though I don't full time mine myself, so they may have just missed me. And even if one day I do, I can just basically ignore it, if I don't react other than continuing mining, they don't get a win. Keep imagining that, if it makes you feel better. It doesn't make it true at all, though.
Ignorance isn't adaption. You'll go extinct and you deserve it, that's why i sure as hell won't help any of you. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
232
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:04:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:As for Yuri, basically, yes, you are right. hence why I say to just ignore them. I'm yet to get bumped by one of them, though I don't full time mine myself, so they may have just missed me. And even if one day I do, I can just basically ignore it, if I don't react other than continuing mining, they don't get a win. No, you still don't understand.
The ultimate aim of the New Order is to convert all high-sec miners into pleasant, healthy, sociable at-the-keyboard persons. That would be the Ultimate Victory. But there are many smaller victories along the way. One of those would be to stop an unpleasant, unhealthy, antisocial AFK person from mining in high-sec. Even if just for a few hours. Ignore the bumper all you want - you're not getting your ore, which means the guy next to you (you know, the handsome chap with the permit) is making that little bit more ISK for his.
Don't you see? By its very nature the New Order always wins. "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
917
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:08:00 -
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Keisha Mei Ash wrote:Yep, from what I can tell, there are only 21 registered users on the Minerbumping forums, and there haven't been any comments on the blog for several hours, so they came to GD for reactions.
Great job, capsuleers, you gave them what they wanted.
How many of these are alts of james terminallly boring 311 or whatever he calls himself? This is not a signature. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1281
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:09:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Except that this isn't actually true at all. There are lots of things to do against the New Order, but people simply aren't smart enough to do them.
*shrugs*
Ignoring them works. It's not much different from ignoring a child throwing a tantrum. They make a lot of annoying noises, but eventually it ends in their realisation that it isn't working.
Someone told me to pay them money mining in my Venture the other day. I ignored them, they moved into position to bump me.... so I went into orbit. They tried to bump me, missed, tried again, and again, and again, missing each time while I laughed a little harder than I should have, then eventually they just flew away and I wasn't bothered again. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
232
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:13:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:I ignored them, they moved into position to bump me.... so I went into orbit. They tried to bump me, missed, tried again, and again, and again, missing each time while I laughed a little harder than I should have, then eventually they just flew away and I wasn't bothered again. They made you adapt and pay attention to the game.
They won. "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |

Dave stark
1506
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:14:00 -
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Yuri Wayfare wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:I ignored them, they moved into position to bump me.... so I went into orbit. They tried to bump me, missed, tried again, and again, and again, missing each time while I laughed a little harder than I should have, then eventually they just flew away and I wasn't bothered again. They made you adapt and pay attention to the game. They won.
to be fair, it's a venture, he'd have probably filled his cargo faster than they could have bumped him out of range anyway. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
917
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:16:00 -
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Yuri Wayfare wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:I ignored them, they moved into position to bump me.... so I went into orbit. They tried to bump me, missed, tried again, and again, and again, missing each time while I laughed a little harder than I should have, then eventually they just flew away and I wasn't bothered again. They made you adapt and pay attention to the game. They won.
That would only hold true if he was not already capable of adapting and was not paying attention to the game.
This is not a signature. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce Brosefs.
108
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:18:00 -
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Ore Miners already pay attention to the game. The whole 'AFK Ore Miner' is a myth. So The New Order don't make an Ore Miner pay any more attention than they already do to the game, hence, no victory. Now Ice Miners, ok, they get away with AFKing. But I'm not that crazy. I'll just sell my ore, and buy more ice at current prices. |

Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
233
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:25:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:That would only hold true if he was not already capable of adapting and was not paying attention to the game. Capabilities which are meaningless if they are not put to the test. Remiel Pollard successfully interacted with other human beings that day and EVE became a slightly better game for it.
"Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |

Kestrix
Industrial Renaissance MinTek Conglomerate
57
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:26:00 -
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The new order just like any other group of griefers are above all lazy. If your getting hassled by them, don't play their game by sitting in a belt trying to ignore them. Move some place else, hi sec is huge and despite there grandiose plans to convert all high-sec miners into pleasant, healthy, sociable at-the-keyboard persons they probably won't move far from the systems they like .
Also the belts are not the only place you can mine in a system. I doubt very much that there is a single probe launcher in the whole of the new order. As the saying goes 'out of sight out of mind' |

Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
233
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:29:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Ore Miners already pay attention to the game. The whole 'AFK Ore Miner' is a myth. So The New Order don't make an Ore Miner pay any more attention than they already do to the game, hence, no victory.
Keeping miners 'ATK' is only one aspect of the future that the New Order foresees. In fact, it is really only a means to an end. That end being miners who are sociable and pleasant and who interact with other human beings. "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |
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