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shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
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Posted - 2013.01.14 16:19:00 -
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Tarlo Intaki wrote:Lol. You people are slightly paranoid  Why don't you try this: Take a shuttle and take a trip through Gallente ice mining systems during prime time, and listen to all the whining in Local, and watch all the flashy red toons there, or actually go to the belts and see how thinly populated they are.
why would I listen to some random people whining about random stuff in a random system when I can just check the price literally with 1 click in jita?
btw. just between my last post and this one the price dropped for a cple isk even...so yeah, op failed
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Tarlo Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.14 16:35:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:Tarlo Intaki wrote:Lol. You people are slightly paranoid Why don't you try this: Take a shuttle and take a trip through Gallente ice mining systems during prime time, and listen to all the whining in Local, and watch all the flashy red toons there, or actually go to the belts and see how thinly populated they are. why would I listen to some random people whining about random stuff in a random system when I can just check the price literally with 1 click in jita? btw. just between my last post and this one the price dropped for a cple isk even...so yeah, op failed
You seem angry.... So very angry.....
Got a few Gallente towers somewhere?
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shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:00:00 -
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im simply able to make a price check without hurting myself. Dont ask me how you look like if your not able to do the same.
Invested all your one and a half isk in oxytopes he? too bad
shar'ra phone home |
elder troll
Big Diggers
C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:57:00 -
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If oxygen isotopes are going to explode, and you are indeed going to try and make a profit. Why would you post it on the forums, for everyone to see, causing the prices to drop? |
Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:19:00 -
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elder troll wrote:If oxygen isotopes are going to explode, and you are indeed going to try and make a profit. Why would you post it on the forums, for everyone to see, causing the prices to drop?
I am not sure you understand simple market dynamics.....
Anyway - not long now. 
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GreenSeed
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:01:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:GreenSeed wrote:
hopefully CCP will consider a rebalance of the rebalance and do what should have been done from the start... slash production cost on barges, set the stats back to what they were before, and let them explode like everything else. instead of feeding the carebear fantasy of eve being a game of perpetual accumulation with no possibility of loss.
how would rebalance of mining barges make bumpers see the real Eve? 
did you finish high school? your reading comprehension is terrible. |
Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:28:00 -
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Well he could be a madman or a manipulator but lets face it things are fairly peaceful and that means a lot of towers start poping up like spring buds after the ravages of winter and it's not like the price could get much lower.
There has been a bit of movement, though I wouldn't call it pressure exactly... |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:49:00 -
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OP States there is less people mining now because of "flashy" reds in local & harassment etc.
OP believes this has decreased the supply, however;
- OP is obviously close minded and believes his "prime time" to be were all minerals are extracted. (Guessing american)
- OP had no idea how many miners were there Before his 'new order' alt became flavor of the month
With no prior knowledge of 'Before' these are assumptions.
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Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
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Posted - 2013.01.15 05:39:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:OP States there is less people mining now because of "flashy" reds in local & harassment etc.
OP believes this has decreased the supply, however;
- OP is obviously close minded and believes his "prime time" to be were all minerals are extracted. (Guessing american)
- OP had no idea how many miners were there Before his 'new order' alt became flavor of the month
With no prior knowledge of 'Before' these are assumptions.
1. The decrease in supply is obvious - not just in Jita.
2. The OP is not American (Capital A).
3. Prime time is not a subjective thing depending on where you yourself happen to live. Just look at the server numbers to see the peak in concurrent users.
4. OP alts have been operating in Gallente space since 2004, so I think I have some idea. How can you possibly claim to know what I knew when!?? That whole concept is bizarre, and frankly just nonsense.
5. Stop suggesting I am part of the New Order. I am an independent operator, just making observations. The EVE crowd honestly has to be the most paranoid bunch of people in any game out there.
P.S. When you say "close minded", I believe what you meant to say was "closed minded".....  |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire
Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.15 06:54:00 -
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A sure sign to know when a thread lacks content and value is when it derails and people start to discuss the grammar in the posts instead |
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Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
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Posted - 2013.01.15 07:52:00 -
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When are Arsenal going to spend in the transfer market? |
Kaaii
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
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Posted - 2013.01.15 09:25:00 -
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"Maybe if we built a giant wooden badger......." |
Tarlo Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.15 11:10:00 -
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I guess if you look at the graph for the price of oxygen isotopes, it definitely looks like it cant go any lower from here, which in turn means it can only go up, so it's like buying a lottery ticket with no risk of losing anything.
Once it flattens out at a low level, then eventually it will jump again. Same happened in nitrogen isotopes a couple of times.
I think the OP is probably on to something.
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shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
326
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:13:00 -
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Tarlo Intaki wrote:
I guess if you look at the graph for the price of oxygen isotopes, it definitely looks like it cant go any lower from here, which in turn means it can only go up, so it's like buying a lottery ticket with no risk of losing anything.
Once it flattens out at a low level, then eventually it will jump again. Same happened in nitrogen isotopes a couple of times.
I think the OP is probably on to something.
yea even the last guy in here must have noticed that you invested in Oxytopes,...really not a big secret. nonetheless I must inform you that your reasoning starts to sound a bit "desperate".
tell us, why cant the price drop even further? is there a bareer that stops it from dropping?... no there isnt, Oxytopes have been a lot cheaper in the past aswell (IIRC 320isk pre ice interdiction?)
it can go up in the future, sure! But it doesnt have to, and so far there is simply no sign for that at all. And personnly its nothing I would invest in, there are at least 2.429.304 items in the game that have greater potencial atm ;)
shar'ra phone home |
Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
13
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:36:00 -
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Well thanks for taking the time to count them... |
Ricky Pickering
Tri Star Productions
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Posted - 2013.01.15 16:03:00 -
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I've been wondering about an investment in Isotopes recently. Although I'm on the lower end of the traders in terms of capital (10-20 billion), I've thought about putting some of my money in Isotopes. The way I see it, it seems to be a safe investment as the market has sort of hit a very stable bottom on many of them. It seems like they're already incredibly low. Would any of you agree on isotopes being a safe investment or would you dispute that?
Also, I noticed the gigantic spike that took place maybe 8-10 months ago. The market has seen a very consistent downward trend since then. Was this do to the changes in mining barges? Thanks! |
RomeStar
Astra Research
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Posted - 2013.01.15 16:56:00 -
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it was only a matter of time before the cancer of The New Order spraed to other sections of the forums.
Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
Andrian Caldar
Caldari Star Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:43:00 -
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Screw it. I'll have me some.
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Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:18:00 -
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Here it comes....
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Arronicus
Vintas Industries
Mistakes Were Made.
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Posted - 2013.01.16 04:42:00 -
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Alex Grison wrote:what a shi-Ątty pump and dump attempt
Sounds like my grandfather after mexican night. |
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Tauranon
Weeesearch
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Posted - 2013.01.16 05:40:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:
Here it comes....
Its not going to affect ice like the intervention did.
Half of their kills have strips on (ie if they kill 20 miners a day, they are only killing 10 ice miners a day), they don't have 24hr presence in the belts as goons did, so there will be gross periods of not harrassing miners and many miners who are never harrassed by them, and they aren't interdicting the islands.
I stuck an alt in a 100k ehp skiff expecting a warzone and hoping for schadenfreude into brap, and instead of getting to tut-tut smugly down my nose at macks with terrible fits being catalyzed, I got to sigh at my yield and pulled 4mil/hr whilst the macks pulled 7m/hr. There was not a catalyst to be seen. |
Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:27:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:
Here it comes....
Its not going to affect ice like the intervention did. Half of their kills have strips on (ie if they kill 20 miners a day, they are only killing 10 ice miners a day), they don't have 24hr presence in the belts as goons did, so there will be gross periods of not harrassing miners and many miners who are never harrassed by them, and they aren't interdicting the islands. I stuck an alt in a 100k ehp skiff expecting a warzone and hoping for schadenfreude into brap, and instead of getting to tut-tut smugly down my nose at macks with terrible fits being catalyzed, I got to sigh at my yield and pulled 4mil/hr whilst the macks pulled 7m/hr. There was not a catalyst to be seen.
I never mentioned the words 'Ice Interdiction', or Goonswarm (which is what I think you might be referring to). You don't need a huge interdiction effort to move prices. Although, this time prices will of course move a lot less.
What your seeing now is a substitution of miner efforts from Oxygen Isotopes to Nitrogen Isotopes. And given that markets are often quite precariously balanced in EVE (precisely because substitution to other activities is so easy), it doesn't take much of an effect at the fundamental level to shift prices at trade hubs by quite a lot.
I reckon the price could easily go to 500, and at that point it is not inconceivable that it goes beyond that as people start hoarding.
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Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
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Posted - 2013.01.16 10:26:00 -
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Just buying 10mil in Jita now would do that and that isn't inconcievable. I think most pos and cap owners build up their emergency stores when prices seem to be at their lowest, just in case...
Around 600 is the new norm imho with relative peace and healthy production/positivity, I know it was lower once (1+ year) but recent history and inflation and the ever present threat of things going silly again makes sitting at that level more likely. |
Callduron
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Posted - 2013.01.16 11:00:00 -
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Props to New Order for simultaneously running a protection scheme where miners can pay to mine ice unmolested and at the same time completely interdicting ice mining. That's some trick! |
Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
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Posted - 2013.01.16 11:05:00 -
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Captain IQ wrote:Just buying 10mil in Jita now would do that and that isn't inconcievable. I think most pos and cap owners build up their emergency stores when prices seem to be at their lowest, just in case...
Around 600 is the new norm imho with relative peace and healthy production/positivity, I know it was lower once (1+ year) but recent history and inflation and the ever present threat of things going silly again makes sitting at that level more likely.
I think most people in EVE are always on the back foot about these things, because of that little thing called 'Real Life', so I am not sure people display as much foresight as one might think.
But ultimately - markets will move if people think they will move. It's all about perception in the short term. |
Bob Killan
Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2013.01.16 11:34:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:Captain IQ wrote:Just buying 10mil in Jita now would do that and that isn't inconcievable. I think most pos and cap owners build up their emergency stores when prices seem to be at their lowest, just in case...
Around 600 is the new norm imho with relative peace and healthy production/positivity, I know it was lower once (1+ year) but recent history and inflation and the ever present threat of things going silly again makes sitting at that level more likely. I think most people in EVE are always on the back foot about these things, because of that little thing called 'Real Life', so I am not sure people display as much foresight as one might think. But ultimately - markets will move if people think they will move. It's all about perception in the short term.
Too true.
All markets are human invention.
Money is an imaginary item created to help trade.
Money only has the value that the users attribute to it.
A fair price is a indication that 2 (or more) entities agree the price is fair.
A fair market price is an extention of that involving many more than 2 parties.
The fair price on any market can be manipulated quite sucessfully up or down using a combination of money and confidence/scare mongering.
Most people are less than intellegent.
Few people are leaders.
Many people are sheep.
Sheep follow leaders.
Money makes leaders. Lack of money makes sheep.
Invested money can create confidence.
10% of the population control more than 50% of total money.
People with money can afford massive advertisements.
TD:LR Every Item in the world including fictional space ship items all have 1 thing in common. If you have the $$$ and the motivations the markets will go where you want them to go.
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Andrian Caldar
Caldari Star Corp
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:59:00 -
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Well - I'm in the money already |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2013.01.17 02:56:00 -
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Andrian Caldar wrote:Well - I'm in the money already
At what price did you buy in? |
shar'ra matcevsovski
white knightess
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:37:00 -
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well it spiked for a short moment to 482 and dropping already (460 atm). no panic sells or big sales through buy orders, so it realy cant be that much...
shar'ra phone home |
Full Metal Jackie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:07:00 -
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Alex Grison wrote:what a shi-Ątty pump and dump attempt
I've seen this, "****** pump and dump" in videos around the internet. It involves a turkey baster... |
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