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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2175
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Posted - 2013.01.17 00:25:00 -
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So, pretty much everything that CCP talked about happening in 2013 last year, took feedback on, etc... isn't coming until after 2013 now. I'm bringing this up because it was two years of this kind of 'general idea of what we want to do in a few years but no actual plans now' that lead to the years preceding Incarna. Let me show you what I mean by that and you tell me if you agree.
- Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.
So, at some point in the future, we're apparently going to get establishments, right? Sure. And maybe the Jove will be playable. How old do you think the concept of WiS is? Check out this devblog from 2006. Over six years ago... still no good delivery.
- Well... the NEXT one will be like Apocrypha!
They've been pretty much saying that ever since Apocrypha. Looks like that's still the case... given the CSM minutes.
- I have an idea! Modular POSs!
Yah. 2006 is on the bananaphone again, and they want their modular POS's and ambulation prototypes back.
Now to be fair... Retribution is up there as one of the best expansions to date because it fixed a lot of broken stuff. To be fair to previous expansions though, it could have just as easily been an after-expansion patch to Apocrypha or Trinity. The teory I'm reading on the forums is that all this great new stuff will be revealed a month before the next expansion at fanfest. I wonder what is really going to be in it? Re-balancing? That's not an expansion. That's a line in the patch notes. I'm not sure if I'm just having a bittervet day or if I'm genuinely getting pi****... was kind of looking forward to POSs. Now I feel like an idiot because I thought that was going to happen.
Do you think we can count on anything coming up, or do you think CCP is going to just ditch their bold talk of an expansion that's 1.5x what Apocrypha was (CCP having said 'well we did Apocrypha in just 4 months and we have six now at the CSM meeting) for quick fixes and re-balancing this year?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1014
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:02:00 -
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Gogela wrote: Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.
I think DUST is far more critical to the future of EVE than anything because if it fails, there probably won't be any WIS for a looooong time (if ever) given all the cash that has gone into it been gambled on it.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
703
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:10:00 -
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A better tomorrow
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
703
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:13:00 -
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Also, I trust CCP to make the next few expansion cycles awesome. They've kept their eyes on the ball, for the most part, during the last few. The first expansion I experienced was Incarna; anything is better than that garbage.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Romvex
430
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:15:00 -
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I still fail to see how WIS is "critical to the future of eve"
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Katie Frost
Asgard.
Exodus.
135
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:20:00 -
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In a constantly evolving game like EvE and with a growing and developing community, I don't think that anybody would take CCPs future projections/plans as anything but a very long term goal/aspiration for the game. There is a reason they trademarked their "soon" comment when asked about timelines for features.
I think you need to gain an understanding/appreciation of what it takes to keep a game like this updated, maintained and running smoothly, whilst still introducing new content regularly, before your start mouthing off about the candy that you want NOW! NOW! NOW! NOW! NOW! |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2127
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:20:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.
Nope. A logical approach to development would be to fix existing systems first before adding new ones. Cruiser buffs are good, not too happy with the BC stuff, Tiericide is meh, 0.0 needs a cohesive vision/direction.
Always follow orders little bees |
Jacob Rider
47th Special Operations Group
28
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:21:00 -
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Romvex wrote:I still fail to see how WIS is "critical to the future of eve"
This. I just don't see the appeal of turning EVE Online into The Sims in Space.
I hope they keep their focus on FiS. Maybe a minimal amount of time on further Dust integration. But mostly FiS. |
Prince Mammon
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:27:00 -
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CCP's plans for the future:
Add new features hundrerds can't use because the disconnect every five minutes due to "socket closed".
Waste time and money on Dust 514 as a free game that most people didn't want in the first place.
Spend time and money and hype up WIS, then abort the attempt after making one room that noone else can interact with, that most people didn't want in the first place.
CCP Gargant: "a total blanket no-tolerance policy was enacted on accusing the ISD of misbehaving"
Who else said there people couldn't be accused of misbehaving?
Nothing to see here, move along. |
Kamden Line
Lightbringer's Sanctuary
RAZOR Alliance
70
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:31:00 -
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Gogela wrote:[ Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.So, at some point in the future, we're apparently going to get establishments, right? Sure. And maybe the Jove will be playable. How old do you think the concept of WiS is? Check out this devblog from 2006. Over six years ago... still no good delivery.
Stopped reading right there. Flying in Space is critical to EVE. Walking in stations is a nice thought - but considering how CCP tried to basically force the player base to swallow Incarna whole, I'm not too eager for a return to this feature.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
6666
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:38:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Gogela wrote: Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.
I think DUST is far more critical to the future of EVE than anything because if it fails, there probably won't be any WIS for a looooong time (if ever) given all the cash that has gone into it been gambled on it.
Combine the 2, DUST in stations! 
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Nair Alderau
EVE University
Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:45:00 -
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I am shedding tears for modular, scalable POSes as well.
I am holding back with cries of rage until I hear what is actually coming in 2013 - we don't know yet, after all.
But I am not very hopeful. |
Ludi Burek
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
228
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:50:00 -
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Romvex wrote:I still fail to see how WIS is "critical to the future of eve"
Eve has WiS?  |
Romvex
431
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:55:00 -
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Ludi Burek wrote:Romvex wrote:I still fail to see how WIS is "critical to the future of eve" Eve has WiS?
unfortunately yes...
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HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
360
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:57:00 -
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wait, there are people unironically asking for updates or am I too tired to realize im being trolled because its not nice to play with my emotions like that
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
2688
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Posted - 2013.01.17 02:02:00 -
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Gogela wrote:
Do you think we can count on anything coming up, or do you think CCP is going to just ditch their bold talk of an expansion that's 1.5x what Apocrypha was (CCP having said 'well we did Apocrypha in just 4 months and we have six now at the CSM meeting) for quick fixes and re-balancing this year?
This is why CCP should just release expansions and patches without even notifying the player base of what's coming.
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3220
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Posted - 2013.01.17 02:16:00 -
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Kamden Line wrote:Gogela wrote:[ Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.So, at some point in the future, we're apparently going to get establishments, right? Sure. And maybe the Jove will be playable. How old do you think the concept of WiS is? Check out this devblog from 2006. Over six years ago... still no good delivery. Stopped reading right there. Flying in Space is critical to EVE. Walking in stations is a nice thought - but considering how CCP tried to basically force the player base to swallow Incarna whole, I'm not too eager for a return to this feature.
Sometimes, they just won't swallow what you try to force down their throat.
<3
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Kamden Line
Lightbringer's Sanctuary
RAZOR Alliance
70
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Posted - 2013.01.17 02:27:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Kamden Line wrote:Gogela wrote:[ Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.So, at some point in the future, we're apparently going to get establishments, right? Sure. And maybe the Jove will be playable. How old do you think the concept of WiS is? Check out this devblog from 2006. Over six years ago... still no good delivery. Stopped reading right there. Flying in Space is critical to EVE. Walking in stations is a nice thought - but considering how CCP tried to basically force the player base to swallow Incarna whole, I'm not too eager for a return to this feature. Sometimes, they just won't swallow what you try to force down their throat. <3
Incarna made bittervets of us all. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
6666
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Posted - 2013.01.17 02:31:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Kamden Line wrote:Gogela wrote:[ Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.So, at some point in the future, we're apparently going to get establishments, right? Sure. And maybe the Jove will be playable. How old do you think the concept of WiS is? Check out this devblog from 2006. Over six years ago... still no good delivery. Stopped reading right there. Flying in Space is critical to EVE. Walking in stations is a nice thought - but considering how CCP tried to basically force the player base to swallow Incarna whole, I'm not too eager for a return to this feature. Sometimes, they just won't swallow what you try to force down their throat. <3
Pineapple juice helps
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Kathern Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.01.17 02:51:00 -
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Gogela wrote:
- Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.
So, at some point in the future, we're apparently going to get establishments, right? Sure. And maybe the Jove will be playable. How old do you think the concept of WiS is? Check out this devblog from 2006. Over six years ago... still no good delivery.
I don't see WIS as something NECESSARY.... it would be a neat feature, but feasibility it a lil wanky. We play eve and are spread over thousands and thousands of stations there isnt enough people in stations and when there is what are they doing... either prepping to bounce out or AFK safe just being parked in station.
What are they gonna do under something like that? No matter what station(maybe for the region???) they just all share the same station like we were all just sitting in Jita together?? Then what do we do in station? Play some sort of second life mini games or gamble for isk(I'd like a draw poker room myself).....Or maybe fight for control of stations or districs of stations DUST style.
Plus why would a lower priority feature like WIS be more of a resource hog that the main game? Look how hard it is to just walk in CQ.. I have to turn it off. I think one eve's main qualities is that it can run on lower end PCs, even with the settings turned low it dosen't even show plus it dosent have to render full environments. When I'm in station, my low setting look very BAD. When It has to start building stations its gonna look like second life set to CLAYMATION and Gumby levels on weak machine and looks like hell. I know my laptop is not a big gaming machine but It plays EVE amazingly, I bet WOW looks like crap on here... I can turn the settings up and it looks amazing and still gets good fps, but it gets hot(u know how laptops get)
Quote: I have an idea! Modular POSs!
Yah. 2006 is on the bananaphone again, and they want their modular POS's and ambulation prototypes back. Now to be fair... Retribution is up there as one of the best expansions to date because it fixed a lot of broken stuff. To be fair to previous expansions though, it could have just as easily been an after-expansion patch to Apocrypha or Trinity. The teory I'm reading on the forums is that all this great new stuff will be revealed a month before the next expansion at fanfest. I wonder what is really going to be in it? Re-balancing? That's not an expansion. That's a line in the patch notes. I'm not sure if I'm just having a bittervet day or if I'm genuinely getting pi****... was kind of looking forward to POSs. Now I feel like an idiot because I thought that was going to happen. I'm hoping for new models for the POS(for small medium and large, they just all look the same maybe faction(looking) labs....and bland to tell you the truth). And a better system of placing and positioning the all the bits and maybe some misc(no real purpose bit to highlight structures like the lite signs on npc structures in missions).
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2182
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Posted - 2013.01.17 02:58:00 -
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Gogela wrote:
- Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.
You misunderstand. I'm psudo-quoting from dev interviews from when incarna was being developed. That was the line they sold and the implication I was angling at was despite the fact that CCP believed that WiS was critical they still didn't deliver. Sorry that wasn't clear to you.
WiS is a cool idea and I think it would be neat to have if there was some gameplay there.... but this thread isn't about WiS it's about CCP making grand sweeping statements and then watching the resulting development fail to meet the pitch.
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Kathern Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:02:00 -
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Ok thats better... i thought you was waiting at CCP's door with pitch fork and torches if WIS was not NOW but RIGHT NOW !!!1!!1!!1111 |
iskflakes
287
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:16:00 -
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Unfortunately CCP are afraid to work on WIS at this critical time (DUST release). It's a shame, because it looks like they did 80% of the groundwork for establishments.
Modular POSes have been pretty much ruled out in the CSM minutes. Too bad.
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dark heartt
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:32:00 -
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Please tell me more about how WIS is critical to this SPACESHIP game. The more we can avoid that $***storm the better. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2183
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:36:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:Unfortunately CCP are afraid to work on WIS at this critical time (DUST release). It's a shame, because it looks like they did 80% of the groundwork for establishments.
Modular POSes have been pretty much ruled out in the CSM minutes. Too bad.
Actually as I understand it there's only a couple of rooms (essentially 2 types of captain's quarters) in DUST using the "Carbon" (EvE's) engine, and DUST itself plays in the Unreal game engine... so no there's really nothing EvE Incarna can use in DUST.
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Ghazu
483
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:32:00 -
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buttehurt about no barbie emoting?
http://www.minerbumping.com/
lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |
Dark Assassin15
Failed Diplomacy
130
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:17:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Gogela wrote:Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE. Nope. A logical approach to development would be to fix existing systems first before adding new ones. Cruiser buffs are good, not too happy with the BC stuff, Tiericide is meh, 0.0 needs a cohesive vision/direction.
Agree fully. well said.
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The F Word
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:28:00 -
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I don't think EVE is about what you think it is.
EVE is about PVP, gankery, trolling, misinformation, backstabbing, plotting, revenge squashing, and manipulation.
Anything else existing in game does so merely to support the above - industry and trade for instance is all tertiary. Anything introduced is going to be along the lines of what EVE is about (as stated above), with room for marginal deviation towards anything that provides additional income to CCP and the cash shop.
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Mhax Arthie
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:44:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Gogela wrote:Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE. Nope. A logical approach to development would be to fix existing systems first before adding new ones. Cruiser buffs are good, not too happy with the BC stuff, Tiericide is meh, 0.0 needs a cohesive vision/direction.
Dude, in gaming industry these are patch notes not expansions. No offence, but when somebody spend too much time in the restroom it get used with the smell, but for someone who may enter the room it will be difficult to stay in for long. I don't wanna compare EVE with a restroom, but more like the veteran players attitude whom love to live in their cave and are against anything innovative and new that could shake their primitive life. Every time when a new idea nor concept is thrown into the ring, the vets are QQ all over like some lousy crybabies.
EVE is an absolute brilliant game and it's a shame that only few of us playing it on this entire planet. Only with constant balancing this game heads nowhere, there must be something big, something that changes EVE as we know it today. One thing we all agree is that changes should never be anything toward the themepark concept and EVE it is and should be forever a sandbox. But even in desert sometimes rain and the sand gets vet. |
Hendrik Tiberius
Avatar Research
Nightshade Equilibrium
4
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Posted - 2013.01.17 17:10:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:buttehurt about no barbie emoting?
How did you manage to learn to write without learning to read? |
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