Actually what I took away from the minutes is that CCP is generally in favor of a themepark (as they are afraid of the rapid failure cascade that "I only play EVE because my friends play EVE" enables) while the CSM was pretty open in their disapproval of a more themepark-like EVE.

In all, the current wardec system is probably the least broken option: goal-oriented wardecs will require complex coding and as such will present a swathe of new ways to break the game for everyone.

Call if griefing please, just man up already and drop the euphemisms. 99% of the gaming world hates griefing (not pvp) and video games did not become mainstream in the 1990's because games were all grief fests. It sounds to me like the employees understand the concept of evolve or die and let's face it, griefers are an ever shrinking small minority. Everyone used to say they wanted "hardcore" free for all or no rules. Everytime a game is harcore in the griefing aspect everyone gets prison stomped and they all quit.
I don't think this game hinges on some griefers ability to suicide gank an AFK autopiloter or a miner in hisec. I pvp and frankly it would be nice to autopilot in hisec and go make a sandwhich or get a drink. Removing the lame suicide ganking does not equate to instant theme park.

Thanks for calling it griefing at least. Now I think you are confusing death penalty with griefing. I say again that you won't hear people say "man remember when EVE online had to be shut down when they removed some ganker alts ability to suicide gank someone." I would add that if suicide ganking in hisec is such a big part of your EVE play then you are doing it wrong.

I'm a PVPer, you are wasting my time by depriving me of a target because you are more interested in carebear tears then having a showdown in low or null.

Sure they do, no one mentions this hypocrisy. That suicide ganker is safe as can be until it's too late. I know what those Thrashers are doing, can't touch them because Concord keeps them safe too until they want to suicide when it pleases them.

It is not in what you write but how you write. Like you were some ugly loser and this is only a thread where people discuss a possible, but also unlikely, future of EVE. Yet you cannot stand the thought of the idea.

By the way, I am mining ice, all afk, while I post here.

What game have you been playing? Up until this last patch, Average player hours were down 25% from their peak. The patch had a lot of promise, but is already broken in a number of ways.
(And yes, I know, CCP claims to be selling all these subscriptions, but if that is true, why are many of them not playing?)

The games problems have little to do with making High-sec safer though, If CCP goes that route, I think it will backfire on them.
What they should do, and should have done long ago, is change the game mechanics to stop the proliferation of alts.
Unfortunately, I'm not even sure how they would approach it now, or if they are even capable.

This is news to me, course I haven't seen the CSM minutes nor do I care to read them.

Anyway, I thought they wanted to turn Eve Online into Griefer Online.

Wasn't the WarDec / Crimewatch / Bounty / FW changes supposed to make this game a Free-For-All Shooting Gallery?

There actually is a server where carebears can go and do whatever they want without being allowed to be PvP'd upon without their consent. I mean, it's still possible, but not allowed.

It's called Singularity.

You keep crossing the line between good ganks and bad ganks, probably because you don't even distinguish in the quality of them.

Disagree. A good gank will be next time we catch Whitehound with a billion isk in his head, a bad gank will be when we asplode his empty head.

Just proves what I said. You take it too serious.

Nobody likes playing a game, any game, with someone who plays it too serious.

Yet I still won't believe that EVE gets turned into a theme park because of me and my comments. I rather believe it is because of the way Goons & Co. play EVE.

When is the last time you paid your subscription with real money and not a PLEX?

Whats Minecraft all about? I only ask because it seems to share some players with Eve.

Good luck explaining that to potential investors. Here is my point. If an Uber Rich Player who has been amassing billions since the Bush administration just buys a PLEX with in game money and never pays a real dime he is not as valuable as the new guy who has to sub AND buy a PLEX with real money to get the cool new ship he wants. See here is the catch. People blast Blizzard for this because they went hardcore mainstream. Blizzard figured out that after half a decade anyone who wanted to play wow had done it by then, that is the same with EVE, if you haven't gotten into the "cold harsh scam libertatian utopia" with it's harsh death penalty by now, you probably don't want to. I would like to see the trial to sub ratio as I heard it was abysmal. So now there is the big question, what next? I don't pretend to have the answer but like I said, by after 10 years you either are into the "cold, harsh yadda, yadda" or not. Now what to do with those that are not? I think it is a mistake to bet the farm on the old vets as well, the republican party doubled down on the "old timers" and their pep rallies look like a nursing home fire drill. You need young blood to survive and grow.

Whitehound is one of these people who join a PvP game then gets angry when PvP happens to him. Or a dedicated troll.