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Zol Interbottom
Nanotrasen Inc
127
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:40:00 -
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So I've been thinking about this a while, and although it is beyond a logistical and diplomatic NIGHTMARE by orders of magnitude i can see it having some merit
inb4 it can't be done, you need to believe |
TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
349
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:42:00 -
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Didn't Chribba get a station and try something like this? Or CVA?
but you're right, it's not going to work unless you do it in NPC 0.0
It won't work in regular 0.0 because no one's going to be happy with a station EVERYONE can dock at. It'd just turn into a perma camped station tbh. |
Zol Interbottom
Nanotrasen Inc
127
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:44:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:Didn't Chribba get a station and try something like this? Or CVA?
but you're right, it's not going to work unless you do it in NPC 0.0
It won't work in regular 0.0 because no one's going to be happy with a station EVERYONE can dock at. It'd just turn into a perma camped station tbh.
i think the only way for it to work is for Chribba to do it, he's the only person i can think of that most people wouldn't go out of their way to smash it for lulz |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7112
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:47:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:So I've been thinking about this a while, and although it is beyond a logistical and diplomatic NIGHTMARE by orders of magnitude i can see it having some merit
inb4 it can't be done, you need to believe
We don't need to believe. You need to make the case that the benefits outweigh the "logistical and diplomatic NIGHTMARE".
Most NPC 0.0 areas have 'hubs' with a reasonably well stocked market, although nothing to compare with the main hi-sec hubs, of course. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Zol Interbottom
Nanotrasen Inc
127
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:51:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Zol Interbottom wrote:So I've been thinking about this a while, and although it is beyond a logistical and diplomatic NIGHTMARE by orders of magnitude i can see it having some merit
inb4 it can't be done, you need to believe We don't need to believe. You need to make the case that the benefits outweigh the "logistical and diplomatic NIGHTMARE". Most NPC 0.0 areas have 'hubs' with a reasonably well stocked market, although nothing to compare with the main hi-sec hubs, of course.
if someone were to overcome the logistical and diplomatic nightmare then there would be a brand new hub to provide ships with cheap pew pew material, if there was a place where people weren't constantly blasting eachother i could see lots of people coming from high-sec to try and make their fortunes in null with a place they know wont explode into tiny peices and let them find a place to actually start out their adventure of the harshness of space |
Mhax Arthie
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:03:00 -
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There are already many npc null space trade hubs where trading is very active and business is good for everyone involved in. In sov null space is no need for trade hubs as usually the alliances take care of their business by them self. Renters are a minority in sov null areas, so setting up a hub only for them is pointless. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
903
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:14:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:if there was a place where people weren't constantly blasting eachother
So highsec? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Zol Interbottom
Nanotrasen Inc
128
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:16:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Zol Interbottom wrote:if there was a place where people weren't constantly blasting eachother So highsec?
sort of but in null |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6926
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:25:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:Didn't Chribba get a station and try something like this? Or CVA?
but you're right, it's not going to work unless you do it in NPC 0.0
It won't work in regular 0.0 because no one's going to be happy with a station EVERYONE can dock at. It'd just turn into a perma camped station tbh. i think the only way for it to work is for Chribba to do it, he's the only person i can think of that most people wouldn't go out of their way to smash it for lulz 9UY was open for almost a year anyway
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Jayson Kassis
Carbon Industries
24
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:36:00 -
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Make this happen CCP. Would be a great start in securing some order in high sec and keeping the vermin with delusions of grandeur where they belong. At least until they get bored and need new blood/tears to farm. Also, I would have an excuse to use my blockade runner. |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7115
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:39:00 -
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Jayson Kassis wrote:Make this happen CCP. Would be a great start in securing some order in high sec and keeping the vermin with delusions of grandeur where they belong. At least until they get bored and need new blood/tears to farm. Also, I would have an excuse to use my blockade runner.
What do you want CCP to do about it? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7115
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:41:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:Snow Axe wrote:Zol Interbottom wrote:if there was a place where people weren't constantly blasting eachother So highsec? sort of but in null
Hi, I'm having some problems configuring my overview to fliter out strangers who just want to swing by and buy their stuff. No matter what options I choose, if I make danerous hostile neutrals visible, the innocent shoppers keep on appearing as shootable too. How can I set my client to distinguish them?
Your help is much appreciated. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Skorpynekomimi
376
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:41:00 -
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Really, what you'd need is NPC stations and highsec pockets in the middle of null, with the current status quo. Null resources and a bunch of stuff from highsec.
The issue with trade hubs in null is the serious lack of trit out there, after all. |
TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
349
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:42:00 -
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Jayson Kassis wrote:Make this happen CCP. Would be a great start in securing some order in high sec and keeping the vermin with delusions of grandeur where they belong. At least until they get bored and need new blood/tears to farm. Also, I would have an excuse to use my blockade runner.
Completely missing what eve is there.
CCP have already given you the tools to do this and are not about to declare a trade hub.
Do you think that's how Jita started? CCP just turned around one day and went "this system here is the games main trade hub"?? |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
380
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Posted - 2013.01.17 11:04:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:if someone were to overcome the logistical and diplomatic nightmare then there would be a brand new hub to provide ships with cheap pew pew material, if there was a place where people weren't constantly blasting eachother i could see lots of people coming from high-sec to try and make their fortunes in null with a place they know wont explode into tiny peices and let them find a place to actually start out their adventure of the harshness of space Null is big, and there is always an island of NPC null systems, you can always stock stuff in there, and it probably won't cause any nightmares. And yes, people do that, making some ISK in the process, it's just apparently amount of such risk-takers isn't enough to saturate anything.
Jayson Kassis wrote:Also, I would have an excuse to use my blockade runner. You already do have on, don't you? It's just a bit harder than open CAS/UOC chat and ask "What are trade hubs?" to find places people will look for supplies in. As far as I can tell people don't make much fuss out of such small hubs so that at least lazy pirates won't go there hoping to intercept some goodies.
That said, you'd be better off with Jump Freighter than with Blockade runner, I think. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
1202
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:15:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:So I've been thinking about this a while, and although it is beyond a logistical and diplomatic NIGHTMARE by orders of magnitude i can see it having some merit
inb4 it can't be done, you need to believe
For that to happen the advantages of having a trade hub would have to far outweigh the advantages of camping it, flipping it, etc. The only way I see it happen is having a force guarding the system, surrounding systems, gates, undock, etc, 24/7. A force strong enough to deal with any opposition. So, where can we find a couple thousand players who have nothing better to do all day than sit around hoping someone breaks the "rules" of the trade system? I know I would not do that. I'd rather have fun.
It's not really that hard to have a cyno chain and jump your stuff to low sec. We already have a trade hub. It's called high sec. |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
259
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:16:00 -
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Imagine an Alliance does a trade hub for each of the NPC null. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1549
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:26:00 -
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VFK is a null trade hub, a rather large one at that.
In fact, all the large trade hubs outside of main high sec ones, happen to be located in null.
I don't really understand why, if you don't live in null, would you even want to go to null to buy anything. Everything would cost more due to the way manufacturing works.
Why would you come to null to buy stuff? I might get it a little if there was actual stuff to do in the systems beyond what little consumable content is available, but there isn't really a heck of a lot fo ryou to do out here other than buy some stuff and then fly to NPC null or high sec with it.
It sounds like it would be a "cool" thing to do, but even if you removed the logistic and diplomacy barriers, there's simply no reason other than the novelty. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2128
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:04:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:So I've been thinking about this a while, and although it is beyond a logistical and diplomatic NIGHTMARE by orders of magnitude i can see it having some merit
inb4 it can't be done, you need to believe
Mate, 0.0 is completely safe. Safer than highsec tbh, a life of leisure and ease, filled with comforts where we bathe in isk. I read it on EVE-O, hundreds of NPC corp members told me so. No not believin CSM Winter 2012 Summit Minutes- "On the subject of vanity items, Two step expressed many player's desire to be able to build a ***** in-áspace." |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1562
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:06:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Zol Interbottom wrote:So I've been thinking about this a while, and although it is beyond a logistical and diplomatic NIGHTMARE by orders of magnitude i can see it having some merit
inb4 it can't be done, you need to believe Mate, 0.0 is completely safe. Safer than highsec tbh, a life of leisure and ease, filled with comforts where we bathe in isk. I read it on EVE-O, hundreds of NPC corp members told me so. No not believin We also get daily isk deposits from the moon goo fairy.
It's ******* sweet. |
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Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
343
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:14:00 -
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what is stoping you from creating trading hub in null sec?
just declare some station trading hub,trade there often and you will have it |
Ris Dnalor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
419
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Posted - 2013.01.18 06:49:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:So I've been thinking about this a while, and although it is beyond a logistical and diplomatic NIGHTMARE by orders of magnitude i can see it having some merit
inb4 it can't be done, you need to believe
if you have the isk, and the market order slots, blackfrog logistics can move the stuff for you relatively cheap.
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Ka'Narlist
Cronos Titan Test Friends Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2013.01.18 11:17:00 -
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As said there are a lot of Null sec trade hubs with a well fed market.
Fell free to visit us in HED-GP which is easy to reach from high sec and take a look for youself. |
Merouk Baas
438
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Posted - 2013.01.18 11:30:00 -
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Ah, but do they have the Jita local chat spam? Because no hub is complete without that.
The poor alliance sods that managed to already seed a hub for their people just don't know how to do it right. |
elitatwo
Congregatio
60
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:53:00 -
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They should give outposts just a ridiculous numbers of manufactoring slot like 500 and a base refining yield of 50% which can be upgraded to 100% with that industry upgrade.
So far npcs stations are much more interesting for a hub location simply because you can even do pve stuff there and collect LP for machariels, vindcators and nightmares to spend them on.
And since you cannot take sov in those systems it is unlikly some alliance will come to shoot you out of there.
Maybe even make every entry null system an npcs system with an npcs station where you can gear up again after being ganked.
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