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Dr Kojak
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Posted - 2005.06.28 13:31:00 -
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Corporation FT Polecats would like access to The Great Wildlands. Preferably purchasing a hunting pass for my corp, duration 1-2 weeks. Our intention is NPCs and maybe some few days of mining.
Some of us have low sec stat but will follow any rules given and honour the agreement.
If anyone know who we should contact regarding such an access, please eve-mail "dr Kojak" or "Slaveabuser" ingame.
dr Kojak CEO FT Polecats [FT P] <br><center><img src="http://www.ovnogkaminservice.no/eve/kojak2.jpg" border=0><br> |

thebold
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Posted - 2005.06.28 13:38:00 -
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Foundation is the alliance you need to ask
but GW is a war zone you might not like it up there ==============================================
We do the Blowing up thingy |

Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2005.06.28 14:02:00 -
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Im sure the cats can handle themselves. But kudos for giving them the warning though.
Give Damige a kick in the butt from me Kojak  |

Dr Kojak
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Posted - 2005.06.28 14:10:00 -
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consider it kicked...
doc |

Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.06.28 14:10:00 -
[5]
Yes, we are somewhat aware of the current status of the region.
But we would very much like access
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Blue Adept
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Posted - 2005.06.28 16:11:00 -
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Dr Kojak,
I will forward your request to an appropriate Foundation Diplomat so you can be contacted.
Thanks for the heads up, and give it a few days to a diplomat to follow-up.
-Blue Adept Damage Unlimited Inc. CEO [-DU-] Foundation Fleet Commander
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.28 16:24:00 -
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hey kojak ;P
Foundation live in GW, but have very little control of it, so dont let them charge u an arm and a leg for access.. u'll still be mostly looking after urselves ;)
--thoth
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.06.28 17:15:00 -
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You will probably need to contact Veritas Immortalis or Foundation, whichever rocks your boat. -----------------------------
The Black Widows |

Drilla
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Posted - 2005.06.28 20:24:00 -
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And Cloned Mark - if you want to be left alone :P
- *** pure moinage ***
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Blue Adept
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Posted - 2005.06.28 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Blue Adept on 28/06/2005 21:22:58 Foundation has as much control of the Great Wildlands as any other alliance has over their home regions.
There will always be hostile visitors out to gank or snipe whomever they can, make false claims on the forums, or toss a few jokes around 
However, that's not to be confused with the dominating force who cleans the bad guys day after day, night after night, and month after month.
This is exactly what Foundation does in the Great Wildlands. Just like another other Alliance does in their own homeland regions.
-Blue Adept Damage Unlimited Inc. CEO [-DU-] Foundation Fleet Commander
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Christobel
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Posted - 2005.06.28 23:35:00 -
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Isnt it true Foundation is kept around by [5] so they have close targets?
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.29 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Christobel Isnt it true Foundation is kept around by [5] so they have close targets?
isn't it true the 99.7% of alts don't know what they are talking about?
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sven dar
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Posted - 2005.06.29 01:25:00 -
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ok let me make this clear foundation does NOT control GW and ne one found to be allied will be shot on sight by ne one who is not foundation(alot of people out there ie [5] and -V-)
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.06.29 01:34:00 -
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you might as well post the "foundation is dead" threads, theres about as much truth in them. but thanks for the flames.
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.06.29 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Christobel Isnt it true Foundation is kept around by [5] so they have close targets?
This coming from someone who sets secure cans about in .7 systems going on about "Oncor controlled space" (See the Tolle entrance into Aydoteaux in Genesis region.
Anyway, in response to >most< of the replies in this thread, thanks for keeping it civil guys.
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BlackFury
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Posted - 2005.06.29 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: sven dar ok let me make this clear foundation does NOT control GW and ne one found to be allied will be shot on sight by ne one who is not foundation(alot of people out there ie [5] and -V-)
.....and you are??
----------------------------------- BlackFury [-DU-] Damage Unlimited Foundation Fleet Commander
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.29 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Adept Edited by: Blue Adept on 28/06/2005 21:22:58 Foundation has as much control of the Great Wildlands as any other alliance has over their home regions.
There will always be hostile visitors out to gank or snipe whomever they can, make false claims on the forums, or toss a few jokes around 
The difference being control and inhabiting is attempting to repel the hostiles.
I know you guys have recruited some lately.. but up until now you just dont have the forces to do this against the hostiles during euro times.. more times than often you SS or jump to empire.. No one expects to be able to deal with hostile fleets 24/7/365.25, but at best you will defend it only during US times.. and i know that at least some of the FT guys are euro :)
You can talk up your alliance on the forums all you like.. but then i'm not the one trying to sell hunting/mining passes :)
--thoth
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.06.29 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: Logan Williams on 29/06/2005 09:45:02 I'd like to take this opportunity to clear up a misconception. Foundation has, in the past, issued hunting and travel passes. For any and all such passes we have charged the whopping sum of 0 isk. The "pass" is only our positive standings so we do not shoot any such guests.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.29 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Logan Williams Edited by: Logan Williams on 29/06/2005 09:45:02 I'd like to take this opportunity to clear up a misconception. Foundation has, in the past, issued hunting and travel passes. For any and all such passes we have charged the whopping sum of 0 isk. The "pass" is only our positive standings so we do not shoot any such guests.
well i think that will cover the "dont let them charge u an arm and leg" comment hehe.. i charge atleast 10 isk per limb =]
i remember FA and Stain (and prolly others) used to charge isk for passes.. just wanted to make sure, they were paying isk under any misconceptions, but free is free and they big and ugly enuff to look after themsleves i'm sure =]
--thoth
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.06.29 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: sven dar ok let me make this clear foundation does NOT control GW and ne one found to be allied will be shot on sight by ne one who is not foundation(alot of people out there ie [5] and -V-)
These sort of posts always amuse me, well done.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.29 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian
Originally by: sven dar ok let me make this clear foundation does NOT control GW and ne one found to be allied will be shot on sight by ne one who is not foundation(alot of people out there ie [5] and -V-)
These sort of posts always amuse me, well done.
lol yeah.. like we only shoot foundation and friends of them in GW's.. if we just shot any random neutral, we'd be ebil piwates 
--thoth
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Harkan Ramientes
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Posted - 2005.06.29 11:56:00 -
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I thought one of Foundation political warhorse was the GW are free for all non aligned corps of good will....what happened?
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.06.29 12:34:00 -
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I would also like to apply for a GW hunting pass for M.Corp please. Who do I need to speak to? |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.29 12:44:00 -
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lol.. i thought u had one of those already 
--thoth
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The Patriarch
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Posted - 2005.06.29 12:46:00 -
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I would like 350 passes too
As`t nie giet soals `t mot, mot `t moar soals `t giet! |

Andy Falck
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Posted - 2005.06.30 00:26:00 -
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Some people like to flame this thread which originally concerns hunting pass request. Fine. DonŠt pay respect to Great Wildands and itŠs original inhabitants. Just show Great Wildlands as a region on the whole how little you care about what happens to it in the long run.
Continue mentioning how little control The Foundation have of the region, if that makes you feel more powerful.
It only makes me sick to hear.
My fellows in Foundation are nice, honorable and doing their best to make this region a region worth living in.
If others just like to fly by and "have fun", good.. Just remember, we choose our fights and donŠt throw away our forces when outblobbed (which is what some alliances, official or non-official, only are capable of fighting with).
Oh, and donŠt forget to answer to this post in a rude way, which is simply the way you like to treat people. And i am not adressing the -V- people, they generally stay out of forum flaming from what i have seen.
Regards
Andy Falck, CEO [KTW] Knights of the Wilds
Members of The Foundation
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The Patriarch
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Posted - 2005.06.30 08:34:00 -
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-V- people Claim GW in another thread looks like they inquire the map to be changed soon........
As`t nie giet soals `t mot, mot `t moar soals `t giet! |

Harkan Ramientes
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:09:00 -
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effectively GW seems quite a disputed zone,lately
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Andy Falck Some people like to flame this thread which originally concerns hunting pass request. Fine. DonŠt pay respect to Great Wildands and itŠs original inhabitants. Just show Great Wildlands as a region on the whole how little you care about what happens to it in the long run.
Continue mentioning how little control The Foundation have of the region, if that makes you feel more powerful.
It only makes me sick to hear.
My fellows in Foundation are nice, honorable and doing their best to make this region a region worth living in.
If others just like to fly by and "have fun", good.. Just remember, we choose our fights and donŠt throw away our forces when outblobbed (which is what some alliances, official or non-official, only are capable of fighting with).
Oh, and donŠt forget to answer to this post in a rude way, which is simply the way you like to treat people. And i am not adressing the -V- people, they generally stay out of forum flaming from what i have seen.
Regards
Andy Falck, CEO [KTW] Knights of the Wilds
Members of The Foundation
boohoo?
tbh the thread wasnt even directed to Foundation, when your representative replied, no one has disputed that they are the main inhabitants. I also agree alot of u guys are nice and honorable, but how exactly does that help ppl wanting to hunt and mine in GW?
boohoo, us ebil forum w****s come up and blob u guys!!
even if that was true 100% of the time.. this wont help someone we kill much will it? I gave a realistic assessment of the situation, i didnt say "DONT BUY A PASS FROM FOUNDATION.. GIVE ME 100 MILL INSTEAD" i said dont let them over charge for something u already admitted.. when we bring any size of a force up there.. u will pick ur fights.. so if we blob them.. will u form up and help them? i rather doubt it, since u dont even do it for urselves.. like ur 20+ fleet disappearing rather fast last nite when we brought 22 up there.. /me shrugs
if they understand that and are happy with that deal, i dont see the problem..
tbh if u consider honesty flaming that's ur problem..
--thoth
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Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Mort Dyken on 30/06/2005 11:50:06 Edited by: Mort Dyken on 30/06/2005 11:49:38 Edited by: Mort Dyken on 30/06/2005 11:48:55
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 30/06/2005 11:01:00 tbh the thread wasnt even directed to Foundation, when your representative replied, no one has disputed that they are the main inhabitants.
Maybe Light Darkness, one of the leaders of -V-, won't like it very much that you refer to him as "noone". A few days ago he said: "[-V-] Veritas Immortalis control mostly time the Great Wildlands atm." http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=162964&page=3#44
Admittedly, he backpeddled later: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=162964&page=3#56
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mort Dyken
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 30/06/2005 11:01:00 tbh the thread wasnt even directed to Foundation, when your representative replied, no one has disputed that they are the main inhabitants.
Maybe Light Darkness, one of the leaders of -V-, won't like it very much that you refer to him as "noone". A few days ago he said: "[-V-] Veritas Immortalis control mostly time the Great Wildlands atm." http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=162964&page=3#44
Admittedly, he backpeddled later: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=162964&page=3#56
I actually meant within the thread, but from ur quotes that doesnt dispute that u are the main inhabitants, u can park in a station or POS all day.. without any sort of control.. i havent read the posts u indicated though.. ur representative had already made it clear he wasnt refering to -V-, and i took him at his word..
--thoth
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Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.06.30 12:05:00 -
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It's a possible, yet unlikely distinction that Foundation inhabits GW, yet -V- controls it. This would only be true if we really sucked at defending it, and then [5] wouldn't come over every other day to help -V-.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.06.30 12:07:00 -
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Sitting in stations smacktalking doesn't count as defending.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 30/06/2005 12:52:10
Originally by: Mort Dyken It's a possible, yet unlikely distinction that Foundation inhabits GW, yet -V- controls it. This would only be true if
we really sucked at defending it, and then [5] wouldn't come over every other day to help -V-.
tbh ur posts are going to do nothing but start flamesfeasts..
I am not from -V-.. i wont argue their controls, views, opinions, statements, etc..
Since a more senior representative only debates wording and intent of my initial statement.. which is will clearly say, i didnt intend smacking Foundation in my initial reply, but other than that, he essentially agrees that when [5] sends a force to GW, Foundation "pick" their fights.. i never said there was anything wrong with that, no "OMG WE WTFPWN U" or rubbish like that, all i wanted to check was that the ppl getting hunting passes were aware of this.. at the time i didnt know you get them for free, again i openly said that when corrected.
so i miss why you would insist on bringing -V- into this.. as already stated ur representative's comments werent directed to -V-, your flames and vailed insults to -V- and LD are off topic, if -V- wish to reply to this topic they are perfectly capable of doing it themselves.. they dont require me or you to do it for them..
--thoth
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:13:00 -
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Setting the record straight between Foundation as it exists today and M.Corp. What is left of Foundation now in GW consists of their best, the people that have fought for the right to remain there against all the odds. Sure, they have huge pressure on them, and often have to sit it out in a station... but to their credit they do stick around. They display the very virtues that Keiretsu held dear when it started up... Fight for the right to be here !!!
The vast majority of foundations leech corps have receded to empire while the real men remain in GW day after day. Props to Foundation, you do not consist of grief corps and idiots. May those of you that work hard in the region taking losses get the opportunity to reap the rewards that are now justly yours!
We are not so different after all... now that the ark fever has died down. |

Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:17:00 -
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I fail to see how I insulted anyone or did any smacktalk. An example of poor smacktalk is what came from your alliance mate Kiatolon, but you don't seem to be bothered by that.
Andy Falck only mentioned -V- to say that they are not generally known for forum flamewars, and that he respects that.
The whole thread is called "Access to Great Wildlands", and -V- have been an issue in several postings of the thread before, as people have been discussing who controls GW. When [5] come over with a blob, they may manage (together with V and the ex-Keiretsu corps)to get us sitting at station cafe, but this is like 2 hours every few days. Considering the eveday has 23 hours, that's not too much IMO.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 30/06/2005 13:36:47 I would read ur obvious misunderstanding of my posts, as an intent to infer that very misunderstanding to others. There was no other reason to bring LD or -V- into a debate that wasnt about them. just my opinion though..
as for my alliance mates post, while not diplomatic.. it isnt totally inaccurate at times, not that smack is only 1 sided, i will also stress.
If you want to talk the walk, you should walk the walk.. if you want to claim "control" of somewhere is be better to control it dispite your enemies, rather than only because they arent there.. saying "we control the space when [5] dont come up" is hardly the strongest statement.
--thoth
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Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.06.30 13:55:00 -
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No way did I say "we control the space when [5] dont come up", as you are stating.
I said: "When [5] come over with a blob, they may manage (together with V and the ex-Keiretsu corps)to get us sitting at station cafe."
I'm sure everybody sees the difference between my statement and the one you made up. To be fair towards -V-, they have won battles against us without the help of [5] or ex-Keiretsu before, no way around that.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 14:13:00 -
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i'm sure they do..
tbh, haggling over wording isnt of any interest to me.. even if we may only force ur forces into stations for a few hours every other day, the point i'm making is we "blob" at our will.. and that kinna is the problem with Foundation claiming control..
if you still dont understand how this is different, try bringing a fleet to FIX or G, both will actively form up to defend their area's in their own ways..
--thoth
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Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.06.30 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Mort Dyken on 30/06/2005 14:48:19 Edited by: Mort Dyken on 30/06/2005 14:46:30 I've been in groups going to HLW just to see [5] members logging off a moment after we arrived. During euro nights there aren't many [5] members on obviously. [5], together with V and ex-Keiretsu sometimes manage to outblob us during your peaktime, which is a time when we have a much lower percentage of our pilots available, as the Americans are not online then.
Btw, I've seen threads with complaints about [G] not fighting and threads giving KUDOS to Foundation for fighting, so I don't think you are painting a realistic picture here.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mort Dyken Edited by: Mort Dyken on 30/06/2005 14:48:19 Edited by: Mort Dyken on 30/06/2005 14:46:30 I've been in groups going to HLW just to see [5] members logging off a moment after we arrived. During euro nights there aren't many [5] members on obviously. [5], together with V and ex-Keiretsu sometimes manage to outblob us during your peaktime, which is a time when we have a much lower percentage of our pilots available, as the Americans are not online then.
Btw, I've seen threads with complaints about [G] not fighting and threads giving KUDOS to Foundation for fighting, so I don't think you are painting a realistic picture here.
off topic, they didnt ask for passes for hlw.. nor did anyone ask for a run down of last nite action (i'll assume that is what the BS comment relates to) i think the admissions already made covers enuff of my comments to close this debate for my part..
if you feel you really want to debate how Foundation WTF pwn [5].. feel free to start a thread on it, and we can continue there..
--thoth
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Tel'Rek
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:04:00 -
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hmmm.... i am really sad to see that in every threat i mostly see ATUK, Shinra or Surprm posting even if they got nothing to do with it. looks like they don't have a threat of their own anymore. pls, can some1 start a threat for them and tell ccp to not lock it so they stay out of the other1s so grown ppl can have a productive threat. THX
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tel'Rek hmmm.... i am really sad to see that in every threat i mostly see ATUK, Shinra or Surprm posting even if they got nothing to do with it. looks like they don't have a threat of their own anymore. pls, can some1 start a threat for them and tell ccp to not lock it so they stay out of the other1s so grown ppl can have a productive threat. THX
Interesting contribution to a request for hunting/mining passes in GW..
--thoth
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Mort Dyken
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:38:00 -
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The hunting pass issue was already solved on page 1: Contact Blue Adept, and he will forward your request to an appropriate diplomat to handle it.
Thank you for your time.
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:48:00 -
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Might I suggest for your own safety, that you attempt to get hunting passes from Foundation & [5] and V alliance, not to mention all the other ex-CA / Kieretsu corps that fly around. Otherwise the hunting pass really counts for nothing as danger will never be far away.
I think we all know this is an impossible ask. What you need to do is get in with a crowd, and take your chances like everyone else does. |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 30/06/2005 15:50:38
Originally by: Mort Dyken The hunting pass issue was already solved on page 1: Contact Blue Adept, and he will forward your request to an appropriate diplomat to handle it.
Thank you for your time.
Pretty much.. not being any kind of official for atuk or [5], i'm not aware our interest in GW is greater than somewhere to hunt, and obviously wouldnt offer such passes. My contribution was on a personel note, which also was cleared up on page 1, after that i only replied to posts i judged directed to me.
--thoth
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.06.30 16:01:00 -
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Yeah I'm just bored at work and have the post munchies. See I even wasted 20 seconds of your time reading this. |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.30 16:08:00 -
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hehe.. i editted to make sure i wasnt stepping on toes , u guys and -V- havent taken any interest in making any offers, neither has any ofour officials.. and Foundation have already made their contact known.. it would be funny to see a bio like..
"Foundation hunting Pass" "-V- Hunting Pass" "M. Corp Hunting Pass" "[5] Hunting pass"
and see the race to see who would pod the person first 
--thoth
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.06.30 16:37:00 -
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Realistically, forget about mining/hunting passes. Go into GW and do what you want. You aren't much safer getting a pass from either V or Foundation as neither really control the area. Everyone from ex-Keiretsu corps, Foundation, V alliance, Red Alliance, [5], G, Imperium and pirate corps all have or have had a presence in Great Wildlands recently.
Its a bit of a mess in the region at the moment. Just go take advantage of it. U3K will be the system you are looking for, and no-one is in it most of the time. -----------------------------
The Black Widows |

DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.30 16:40:00 -
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thoth's whor3ing in this thread is simply amazing.
A true role model for all of those who wish to someday be an elite forum *****.
/me bows in respect.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.06.30 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tel'Rek hmmm.... i am really sad to see that in every threat i mostly see ATUK, Shinra or Surprm posting even if they got nothing to do with it. looks like they don't have a threat of their own anymore. pls, can some1 start a threat for them and tell ccp to not lock it so they stay out of the other1s so grown ppl can have a productive threat. THX
Errrm, ONE shinra guy posted here. He was a member of Keritzu who fought foundaion along time. Its clear by your above quote you atre nothing but a propaganda tool.
OMG, WE'RE UBER |

Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.06.30 18:08:00 -
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I'm not going to bother to quote anybody, all it would do is make it look like I'm flaming someone.
I've semi kept up with this thread and most of the posts I've read from Thoth really haven't appeared flamish. Maybe I'll need to edit later but, right now, my girlfriend is glaring over my shoulder....time to go :(
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.30 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: DrunkenOne on 30/06/2005 18:18:32
Originally by: Logan Williams I'm not going to bother to quote anybody, all it would do is make it look like I'm flaming someone.
I've semi kept up with this thread and most of the posts I've read from Thoth really haven't appeared flamish. Maybe I'll need to edit later but, right now, my girlfriend is glaring over my shoulder....time to go :(
He is in [5] so that means that every single post he makes is a flame because he is a smacktalking racist teenage griefer who lives with his mom and only posts when on break from school cause hes still in high school.
Or something.
Actually thats all true except its actually me living with his mom.
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.06.30 21:06:00 -
[54]
Meh it appears the situasion is rather chaotic, but as suspected. FT Polecats will make make a deal with the official ruler of Gw.
GW beeing a warzone is irrelevant for us.
FT Polecats will avoid any confrontasions, we plan to travelk to distant parts of GW.But if confronted we will attack agressors.
Its only a game, things will work themselves out. )pardon spelling, summer hollyday +beer)
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.06.30 21:59:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Slaveabuser Meh it appears the situasion is rather chaotic, but as suspected. FT Polecats will make make a deal with the official ruler of Gw.
GW beeing a warzone is irrelevant for us.
FT Polecats will avoid any confrontasions, we plan to travelk to distant parts of GW.But if confronted we will attack agressors.
Its only a game, things will work themselves out. )pardon spelling, summer hollyday +beer)
As I said, go in, have some fun, and shoot Foundation  -----------------------------
The Black Widows |

Lab Kociak
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Posted - 2005.07.01 01:33:00 -
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Hunting passes are SOOOO 2004....
or something..
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.01 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Slaveabuser Meh it appears the situasion is rather chaotic, but as suspected. FT Polecats will make make a deal with the official ruler of Gw.
GW beeing a warzone is irrelevant for us.
FT Polecats will avoid any confrontasions, we plan to travelk to distant parts of GW.But if confronted we will attack agressors.
Its only a game, things will work themselves out. )pardon spelling, summer hollyday +beer)
you are probly best off ignoring everything in this thread other than the contact, this thread has been flamed so bad you could put bbq sauce on it and take a bite.
but yes foundation seems to be the flavour of the month for most of the south, everyone wants a piece 
if you want to purchase a pass off someone in gw for hunting you have these choices, foundation, who have control over the us timezone, and recently a good percentage of the euro timezone, v who have good days and bad days, some days they will blob up in e02 and maybe move to bvip and back for a few hours, m corp, who turn up once a week when they hear v have a fleet together, or 5, who turn up when v get outblobbed and moan about us not fighting 5 to 1 odds while v get some more pilots.
if you enter gw for a while you will see thats how things genuinly are, but i will be flamed and told this is propaganda. hopefully when/if you do come to gw, you will see i was generally not lieing 
anyway, go on then, gimme yer best flamage
oh and btw, yes thoths whorage was superb in this thread, i suspect that was at least a refresh every 60 seconds, if not less 
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Moros
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Posted - 2005.07.01 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Moros on 01/07/2005 03:10:55 Foundation owning GW ROFL, thats pretty funny. Thats like saying the almighty G alliance owns all of Curse.
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.01 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Moros Edited by: Moros on 01/07/2005 03:10:55 Foundation owning GW ROFL, thats pretty funny. Thats like saying the almighty G alliance owns all of Curse.
same guys saying the same things, getting old guys, getting old
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.07.01 11:07:00 -
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A little Summary:
To the time V was still in Curse Foundation was not our enemy. They decided to make us their enemy with their reason: "V supports "5". V is KOS!" Strange stuff, where we never supported "5" in any way. We did not fight their wars (some may remember our forum post about staying out of their conflicts with Xetic and other parties), and we did not mine for them (like some of Foundation lately accused us to) We even had little problems with ATUK to that time, because we accidently shot one of their new supported corps because we forgot to set standings. And btw, did you really think "5" need our help? "5" needed our support? For me this was a lame reason for Foundation to shoot at someone. V was a bit unsure too to that time "5" moved into Curse and settled down there, but we saw that Shinra, ATUK and co. respected us and not even tried to force us to anyhing. If you believe it or not V and "5" are respecting eachother, and that will never change, unless one partie will start hostilities. And yes, our relationship became stronger.
To the situation in GW:
GW is an open warzone. V went into GW to settle there and fight Foundation. This we managed. All Corps of us are now based in GW. We have to add that Foundation claims to be mainly active in the American timezone and we are only active in the euro timezone. Anyway, to the beginning of our "invasion" we got more resistance in our timezone. Now Foundation seems to be really more active to the time we sleep. But as i said, i cant speak for things happening while i am sleeping. I like the main part of Foundation, since they are nice guys and sometimes i asked myself why we fight eachother? But then again i see ppl in your rows who flame us like hell, ppl who posting lies in our recruitement posts, ppl who accuse us of things we never did. And really bad and sad it becomes if you starting smacktalking about us in local, while some of us are there and you speak about us like you are in your alliance chat. Sad stuff guys. Not acceptable. This kind of behavior makes me feel good while i shoot your ships, really. Thx!
And about claiming GW:
- I think ppl who want to access GW, need to ask all parties in GW. Depends much likely on the time. For now.
And to Foundation:
One of you asked me 2 days ago, why we dont fight "5". He told me we should be aware of them, they could turn against us. He also added that many ppl dont like "5".
My answer: Why we should attack someone, who never did anything bad to us? Why should we be like everyone else in eve, fight someone just because others points at them saying they are bad? V will make their own decisions, expiriences and we will "react" on things and not listen to the community of the eve-forums, which is more or less only a flaming-group. Thats why we give a **** on what others say. We will be friends with everyone who prooved that they ARE friends, like Atuk, Shinra and co., yes. Over and out. Go on flaming someone else and fight your own wars.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.07.01 11:31:00 -
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Nice post Headhunta. Worth reading and to the point. Unlike most of the posts in this thread.
Always a pleasure to fight V, a most honourable enemy.
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Moros
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Posted - 2005.07.01 15:24:00 -
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But Munchy my friend, the thing is its true the only time you actually have GW in control is when V go to sleep.
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.01 16:20:00 -
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headhunta, thank you for a civil post unlike most of the posters in this thread, but the thing is, this is not about why we are fighting, this thread is about who to ask for a hunting pass. ---
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.07.01 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: munchy headhunta, thank you for a civil post unlike most of the posters in this thread, but the thing is, this is not about why we are fighting, this thread is about who to ask for a hunting pass.
Yep, answered that too  "-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.01 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: munchy headhunta, thank you for a civil post unlike most of the posters in this thread, but the thing is, this is not about why we are fighting, this thread is about who to ask for a hunting pass.
This has hardly been the most unruly thread, not everyone's opinions agree.. but most points have been put across politely.. 
--thoth
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Michael Pratt
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Posted - 2005.07.01 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Moros But Munchy my friend, the thing is its true the only time you actually have GW in control is when V go to sleep.
But Moros my friend, the thing is, the only time V actually has GW under control is, like, never.
That's why it's a contested warzone. Nobody controls GW and if any alliance has the right to claim (which I believe is not the case) it would be Foundation simply because they control the area 17-18 out of 23 hours as opposed to V who are lucky to get 2-3 hours in.
Note how Foundation hasn't been making control claims since the war started, whereas V keeps doing that. Why I would not know, but every pilot in V knows that their alliance is not in control of GW. Not in US times, not in Euro times.
As I write this, We're chasing around a small V gang in E02. I have been looking for targets in GW since I logged on 2-3 hours ago. Have seen none so far, except the guy that warped off with 6 points on his Tempest and the guy that docked his Scorp well into in armor. Dunno about where you live, but this is pretty much peak time for euro's. And it's friday.
Oh, I'm sure some 45 BS ATUK/Shinra blob will fly in tonight, camp a station with the 5 V Battleships for an hour or so and MCorp and Widow will *probably* join in the fun, so that you can start spamming the forum with claims of the area again. If that's Headhunta's definition of 'control of the area' then sure, V claims it.
Now take your corp mate Velios as an example and don't mingle in an affair where you, quite frankly, have absolutely no business with. Don't go making unsupported claims and especially don't support them if you have no clue what you're talking about. Unless you actually grow the balls to take in a fleet yourself without a 30-BS fleet from [5] backing you up I suggest you keep out of this conflict and go gank some more haulers in Osvetur.
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.07.01 18:44:00 -
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Hmmm, reading all the rubbish in this thread reminds me once again why alliances suxorz big fat balls
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.01 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Slaveabuser Hmmm, reading all the rubbish in this thread reminds me once again why alliances suxorz big fat balls
Well it was u that asked. Next time maybe u'll just go look for yourself ;)
--thoth
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Terrorist2
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Posted - 2005.07.01 22:59:00 -
[69]
u could always get a hunting pass from
Foundation The 5 & -V-
that ur chances of getting killed are very slim
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.07.02 00:53:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Michael Pratt
As I write this, We're chasing around a small V gang in E02. I have been looking for targets in GW since I logged on 2-3 hours ago. Have seen none so far, except the guy that warped off with 6 points on his Tempest and the guy that docked his Scorp well into in armor. Dunno about where you live, but this is pretty much peak time for euro's. And it's friday.
And you are?
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.02 01:47:00 -
[71]
Originally by: HeadHunta II
Originally by: Michael Pratt
As I write this, We're chasing around a small V gang in E02. I have been looking for targets in GW since I logged on 2-3 hours ago. Have seen none so far, except the guy that warped off with 6 points on his Tempest and the guy that docked his Scorp well into in armor. Dunno about where you live, but this is pretty much peak time for euro's. And it's friday.
And you are?
A pathetily obvious millinium alt.
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Michael Pratt
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Posted - 2005.07.02 07:22:00 -
[72]
That's in his bio, yes.
Reason I choose not to post with my main in this is because of the pointless flamefest this thread has become, especially from the [5] side.
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.07.02 09:35:00 -
[73]
At this time I'd like to stop the wanton flamage in this thread. I think that the members of ATUK, SNRA, and other various members of [5] and their friends need to be congradulated.
Even before V had an empire war on their hands it was becoming increasingly difficult to find them in Great Wildlands.
-V- "We own Great Wildlands!! Our labelled cans in empire space even say so!!!"   
Foundation "We're gonna kick your   "
-V- "[5] can you help us, please?"
[5] and friends "There there, lil alliance. We'll stop all the mean mean foundation from picking on you." 
.....and basically that's what the past two and a half weeks have been. Foundation fighting [5] for control of Great Wildlands.
At this time, I'd like to commend [5] on the brave fight they are giving us for Great Wildlands during the European times. Good show guys. 
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.07.02 11:10:00 -
[74]
So. My 5 cents to this topic.
-V- Move a new way.Some ex-V-Members cant move together with us this way and so our number goes a bit down. And? No problem. So we are more concentrated in our Membercorps and we can try to concentrate us for our members. I personaly like to have 300 members where i know 80% like to fight than to have 600 members where 10% only fight.
So atm we are not so much in GW. Pvp cost money and we stay over 2 month everytime in GW. So we need a bit time to replace our stuff. Normaly!! Bonus to this is the empire war against VIRII (thx btw )
In this new way we dont want to claim GW atm. We only love PvP and we try to find some honourable fights in 0.0 -> so atm GW. We are based in GW with all our PvP dudes and we find some nice fights. This day we blob Foundation out and other day we need a bit help to can handle the Foundation blob. **** Happens.
But. We never leave GW.
For the fun in EvE
Regards /LD ---------------------------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
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Tr4XX
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Posted - 2005.07.02 11:16:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Tr4XX on 02/07/2005 11:17:37 honorable fights do not come from 50 man allied blobs or station bubbled camps
period.
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TekRa
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Posted - 2005.07.02 12:11:00 -
[76]
Foundation is dead!
(sorry, just had to add to the pointlessness)
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.07.02 13:56:00 -
[77]
Nothing to see here anymore. The topic was about who you need to ask if you want to enter GW...both mainly involved parties answered. So order your flame dogs back. And btw Mr. Logan Foundation Alt, its like i mentioned before: Its not very nice to hijack other Alliances/Corps recruitement posts and ask dump, provoking questions. The only war Foundation seems to fight is the war on the forums. Sad. But i know also some good guys in your rows, ill prefer to talk to those only now.
Topic can be closed. thx.
"-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.07.02 16:20:00 -
[78]
Originally by: HeadHunta II Nothing to see here anymore. The topic was about who you need to ask if you want to enter GW...both mainly involved parties answered. So order your flame dogs back. And btw Mr. Logan Foundation Alt, its like i mentioned before: Its not very nice to hijack other Alliances/Corps recruitement posts and ask dump, provoking questions. The only war Foundation seems to fight is the war on the forums. Sad. But i know also some good guys in your rows, ill prefer to talk to those only now.
Topic can be closed. thx.
A: I'm NOT an alt. I wish I knew how to get my corp to appear under my picture and name. Alas, I do not, can you please help me?
B: Some things can be very unclear, especially when referencing an outdated web based map within a recruitment thread. I most certainly had genuine questions. In turn, Light Darkness answered promptly and courteously. (Thanks again for that.)
C: I think Light Darkness' post acknowledges that we do fight more than just on the forums.(Again, thanks)
D: I have the utmost level of respect for some of your pilots as well. Don't disrespect me because of not standing idly by and watching someone publicize the ownership of GW when in fact, they don't. (>>> In defense of V, they are not the folks who originally started flaming this post. I believe that honor fell upon M. Corp or WIDOWS <<<)
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.07.02 18:12:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Logan Williams
A: I'm NOT an alt. I wish I knew how to get my corp to appear under my picture and name. Alas, I do not, can you please help me?
on the left menu, under "Forums" click settings, select ur character, under the sig there are a number of checkboxs:-
Show Race Show Corporation Show Alliance Default Character Don't show Signatures
--thoth
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.07.02 20:15:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Light Darkness
In this new way we dont want to claim GW atm.
/me points at the "entering -V- space" can in egbinger. ---
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.07.02 21:45:00 -
[81]
Thanks, Thoth. I always just start reading before logging in. When you reply without logging in first you still log in but, it never displayed "settings".
Thanks again :)
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.07.03 14:07:00 -
[82]
enough already...... :/
Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" lordmix >... i helped a corp m8 pull it off |
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Saucerhead

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Posted - 2005.07.03 15:05:00 -
[83]
I believe nothing good will come out of this thread in future, so... locked.
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