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Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13683	Posted - 2013.01.18 17:37:00 - [1] - Quote Hell no. Grind is not acceptable. Edit: Also a system such as this was in Eve early on. It was removed because it was abused. CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13683	Posted - 2013.01.18 17:43:00 - [2] - Quote Aston Martin DB5 wrote: Mag's wrote: Hell no. Grind is not acceptable. So you feel pvp is grinding or doing things that earn your character isk is as well? These are things all players engage in EVE. Why not reward them for doing it. No, I feel grinding for SP is unacceptable. You want that type of system, then go elsewhere. CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13684	Posted - 2013.01.18 17:46:00 - [3] - Quote Aston Martin DB5 wrote: Mag's wrote: No, I feel grinding for SP is unacceptable. You want that type of system, then go elsewhere. So it's acceptable to grind unless it involves SP? Why is that? Because SP isn't the be all and end all of Eve. It's only one part and works very well as it stands right now. Plus any type of system like this, is open for abuse. This is why it didn't last long the first time it was introduced early on in Eve's life. Also, there is only grind in Eve, if you want there to be grind in Eve. This promotes it and is wrong for that fact. CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13684	Posted - 2013.01.18 17:57:00 - [4] - Quote Ghazu wrote: hey guys guys i am like pretty rich now i don't even have to rat anymore but i still need to rat for sec status how about passive sec status regen? Indeed. Also I require a bank in Eve run by NPC bankers, that gives me 5% interest on my ISK. Edit: Make it 15% or higher. CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13684	Posted - 2013.01.18 18:25:00 - [5] - Quote Aston Martin DB5 wrote: Mag's wrote: Aston Martin DB5 wrote: Mag's wrote: No, I feel grinding for SP is unacceptable. You want that type of system, then go elsewhere. So it's acceptable to grind unless it involves SP? Why is that? Because SP isn't the be all and end all of Eve. It's only one part and works very well as it stands right now. Plus any type of system like this, is open for abuse. This is why it didn't last long the first time it was introduced early on in Eve's life. Also, there is only grind in Eve, if you want there to be grind in Eve. This promotes it and is wrong for that fact. How is adding a small 250-500 points weekly/monthly a "be all and end all of eve." Adding implants which are acquired through isk, do they share the same fate? Because it's something not open to all, whereas Implants are. Just because someone chooses not to invest in Implants, doesn't mean they cannot. But many players cannot invest large quantities of game time, as real life messes with it. Any system that require grind, becomes a burden to game play. The lack of grind in Eve, is why I've kept playing it for 9 years. Why do you ignore the fact we had this once and it was abused. Do you honestly think it would be again? CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13686	Posted - 2013.01.18 18:28:00 - [6] - Quote Aston Martin DB5 wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: A Market alt or PI centric toon would earn nothing.....ever. Bad idea is bad idea. Market toon shouldn't be rewarded. Promoting people flying their spaceships and blowing stuff up should because they're engaging with other players in a "MMO." Not saying making isk through the market is bad. They are taking part in PvP, why shouldn't they be rewarded also? CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13686	Posted - 2013.01.18 18:29:00 - [7] - Quote Aston Martin DB5 wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: You included PvE Combat in your original post. But I'm not surprised you 'forgot'. I did forget and it wasn't intentional. Maybe you forgot about the AI update. PVP/PVE have botters? ^^ there ya go PvE does now, PvP would with this change. CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13688	Posted - 2013.01.18 20:34:00 - [8] - Quote Aston Martin DB5 wrote: Abused because maybe it was poorly implemented? Why are we throwing around "large quantities of game time" maybe blowing up 1 ship in a month just gained you 25 points to apply or something> ? System that requires grind? No new system is being implemented other than adding a bonus to things players enjoy in the game currently: blowing up ships. Yes abused. PvE is being abused, mining is being abused. Are they poorly implemented? No, it's just the nature of getting something, when automation is possible. If it is possible, then people will automate it. If you add a system that means you gain SP from an action, it becomes a grind mechanic. As it stand right now, the skill system is fair and open to all. With the removal of learning skills and the inclusion of attribute remaps, we now train far faster then ever. (yes I'm aware of the slight drop, but this only affected those with 5/5 learning) Your idea will punish those without extra free time and reward those with. Any mechanic like this doesn't solve any problem, but creates many. Eve is a non-grinding, no-level, class-less, passive-ability, real-time progression game, so you shouldn't be able to train things faster no matter what repetition you do. If faster speeds are your thing, buy implants. CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13737	Posted - 2013.01.22 00:08:00 - [9] - Quote Brutus King wrote: Tippia wrote: Brutus King wrote: SP for Aurum pls. Quite possibly the only suggestion that is worse than SP griding. Ya think? Anyone with any idea of what they were talking about, would say so, yes. CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.

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