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Meng 80 Nvwa Garden 0	Posted - 2013.01.18 18:52:00 - [1] - Quote I just finished my Proteus skill training. Any advise for fitting? I didn't train Drone skills. preferred Blaster. Thanks!
Carol Krabit School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 22	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:16:00 - [2] - Quote While not very efficient, blaster Proteus for the occasional mission might be fun. I'd fit one like this: [Proteus - Blaster MWD] Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Capacitor Power Relay II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Capacitor Battery II Cap Recharger II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Hammerhead II x5 Of course insert pimp where you want it, maybe a quicker mwd. If cap isn't stable, maybe switch some mod to less draining complex ones. Void bumps the damage a bit against bigger ships. Small ones will crumble fast enough anyway.
Vaeliel Slander Acquisitions 10	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:16:00 - [3] - Quote Yep! Buy a Tengu. :D Seriously though, blasters suck for missions. The reason is range. Here are some stats I've found to be pretty good baselines: 1. Tank: 400-500ish burst; be able to sustain it for about 3-5 minutes. Shield tanking is best for MOST cases, unless you're in Amarr territory... At which point you should give up and go elsewhere because ** tracking disruptors. 2. Spank: 550 - 600 minimum guns / missiles only DPS (don't count drones in this) 3. Range: 60 kilometers minimum 4. Drones: T2 Hobgoblins and Warriors, you will need no others. Get those, and you'll be a mission running machine. The Proteus can't do the range. :( Great mission battleships, depending on who you're running against and assuming decent skills: Raven is kind of meh, but will do the job if you're careful Raven Navy Issue is quite a bit better Apocalypse or Abaddon suck unless you're shoosting Bloods or Sansha, the latter of which you won't hit Maelstrom is a great ship for Bloods, Angels, Serpentis (if you can stand the ***** ridiculous damping) I've heard the Megathron with rails can do alright Dual LAR Dominix with T2 sentries and a few tracking links has been known to be pretty good If you have the money to blow on a Proteus, you might be able to afford: Rattlesnake - Drones + missiles, the two wins of PVE together in one though I've not flown one Machariel - I LOVE MY MACHARIEL... can hit out to 60km comfortably with autocannons, HUGE DPS, great against almost anything ........Of course, if you aren't serious about doing missions efficiently, by all means burn to blaster range for every target on the field. I advise you to fit a Federation Navy web.
Batelle Komm susser Tod 125	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:22:00 - [4] - Quote Meng 80 wrote: I just finished my Proteus skill training. Any advise for fitting? I didn't train Drone skills. preferred Blaster. Thanks! Train a different t3. What the hell are you thinking, training a proteus and asking for missions. in the meantime... MWD, armor tank, faction magstabs, guns. Pretty simple. Fighting is Magic
Vaeliel Slander Acquisitions 10	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:28:00 - [5] - Quote Batelle wrote: Train a different t3. What the hell are you thinking, training a proteus and asking for missions. This would be the TL:DR version of my post.
sabre906 Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice 616	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:32:00 - [6] - Quote Vaeliel wrote: Batelle wrote: Train a different t3. What the hell are you thinking, training a proteus and asking for missions. This would be the TL:DR version of my post. Alternately, covops fit it and gank ppl with it. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454
Meng 80 Nvwa Garden 0	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:56:00 - [7] - Quote Vaeliel wrote: Yep! Buy a Tengu. :D Seriously though, blasters suck for missions. The reason is range. Here are some stats I've found to be pretty good baselines: 1. Tank: 400-500ish burst; be able to sustain it for about 3-5 minutes. Shield tanking is best for MOST cases, unless you're in Amarr territory... At which point you should give up and go elsewhere because ** tracking disruptors. 2. Spank: 550 - 600 minimum guns / missiles only DPS (don't count drones in this) 3. Range: 60 kilometers minimum 4. Drones: T2 Hobgoblins and Warriors, you will need no others. Get those, and you'll be a mission running machine. The Proteus can't do the range. :( Great mission battleships, depending on who you're running against and assuming decent skills: Raven is kind of meh, but will do the job if you're careful Raven Navy Issue is quite a bit better Apocalypse or Abaddon suck unless you're shoosting Bloods or Sansha, the latter of which you won't hit Maelstrom is a great ship for Bloods, Angels, Serpentis (if you can stand the ***** ridiculous damping) I've heard the Megathron with rails can do alright Dual LAR Dominix with T2 sentries and a few tracking links has been known to be pretty good If you have the money to blow on a Proteus, you might be able to afford: Rattlesnake - Drones + missiles, the two wins of PVE together in one though I've not flown one Machariel - I LOVE MY MACHARIEL... can hit out to 60km comfortably with autocannons, HUGE DPS, great against almost anything ........Of course, if you aren't serious about doing missions efficiently, by all means burn to blaster range for every target on the field. I advise you to fit a Federation Navy web. Thanks for the advise. Do you know what Proteus can do in PVE?
Meng 80 Nvwa Garden 0	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:58:00 - [8] - Quote Carol Krabit wrote: While not very efficient, blaster Proteus for the occasional mission might be fun. I'd fit one like this: [Proteus - Blaster MWD] Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Capacitor Power Relay II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Capacitor Battery II Cap Recharger II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Hammerhead II x5 Of course insert pimp where you want it, maybe a quicker mwd. If cap isn't stable, maybe switch some mod to less draining complex ones. Void bumps the damage a bit against bigger ships. Small ones will crumble fast enough anyway. will try this. Thanks for the tips
Canabi Frontier Explorer's League Sadistica Alliance 32	Posted - 2013.01.18 20:24:00 - [9] - Quote Meng 80 wrote: will try this. Thanks for the tips He basically just said eff you guys and your good advise.
Derath Ellecon Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal 1059	Posted - 2013.01.18 20:48:00 - [10] - Quote Proteus is bad for missions in terms of isk/hr. It can also be lots of fun. Luckily i stopped running missions for isk awhile ago. So when I do it is just for a change of pace.

Carol Krabit School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 22	Posted - 2013.01.18 20:58:00 - [11] - Quote Derath Ellecon wrote: Proteus is bad for missions in terms of isk/hr. It can also be lots of fun. Luckily i stopped running missions for isk awhile ago. So when I do it is just for a change of pace. This. People tend to get caught up in the ISK/H calculations and disregarding the elusive "fun" that can be derived (surprisingly I know) from other things than maximizing profits.
Flakey Foont 206	Posted - 2013.01.18 21:46:00 - [12] - Quote Carol Krabit wrote: Derath Ellecon wrote: Proteus is bad for missions in terms of isk/hr. It can also be lots of fun. Luckily i stopped running missions for isk awhile ago. So when I do it is just for a change of pace. This. People tend to get caught up in the ISK/H calculations and disregarding the elusive "fun" that can be derived (surprisingly I know) from other things than maximizing profits. I agree. Proteus is a blast if not the most efficient L4 boat. I have used a fit similar to the one posted above, Here is one with T1 rails: [Proteus, Lets try] Medium Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Armor Explosive Hardener II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN Microwarpdrive I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
Alticus C Bear University of Caille Gallente Federation 129	Posted - 2013.01.18 22:32:00 - [13] - Quote The Proteus can do all PVE and of all the T3GÇÖs I would suggest it has the most configurations Drones, Blaster or AB Rails, I do not feel it falls far behind the Tengu when facing Kin/Therm Enemies such as Serpentis. Start with more tank and then reduce as you become more comfortable. Use more than one mission ship, Proteus will complete all missions but the more you move off itGÇÖs racial resists the more tank and less gank you will need, an Ishtar or Domi on standby for missions against Angels or where there are long range webbing towers is very useful. I would recommend focusing on Kin/Therm missions Serpentis , EOM, Guristas and against the Caldari State. Use something like this to start. [Proteus, Blasters Serpentis] Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Armor Thermic Hardener II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Corelum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive Large Capacitor Battery II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Vespa II x5 Hornet II x5 Should be capstable even with slightly lower skills and this is where the higher quality Microwarpdrive and repper helps. The Dual TE and TC with optimal range script are key Null range is 8.9+25km. Carry a few ammo types use Antimatter as standard but Null and Void have uses. Null can be used to pop frigates destroyers at range. Alternatively swap the blasters to 250mm rails and TE to a Magstab and fit a RF Afterburner. This is mine for Serpentis including things like World Collide, I use a two slot tank. [Proteus, Blasters Faction] Centum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane Tracking Enhancer II Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corelum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive Large Capacitor Battery II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Drone Control Range Augmentor II Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Vespa II x5 Hornet II x5
Kasutra Tailor Company Hashashin Cartel 125	Posted - 2013.01.19 02:38:00 - [14] - Quote sabre906 wrote: Alternately, covops fit it and gank ppl with it. Ganking people running lowsec missions is definitely the best way to use a Proteus in missions.
Roime Shiva Furnace 1712	Posted - 2013.01.19 10:07:00 - [15] - Quote Running missions is bad for your ISK/hour, and no matter how much you invest in the ship, it's still not fun. Move to Wecanhavenicetoys-space, fly your Proteus, the king of space with your friends like it was meant to, and use cheap T1 ships to make more money than hiseccers ever will in their officer fit machs. -á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars -
Ellspeth Murdron Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 1	Posted - 2013.01.19 15:04:00 - [16] - Quote Here's a setup I like when I need a break from my 'Snake... good for L4 PVE. Basically a cap stable MWD+Dual Armor Rep setup. Proteus Dissolution Sequencer Nanobot Injector Power Core Multiplier Hybrid Propulsion Armature Localized Injectors 6x Heavy Neutron Blaster II 10MN MWD / Large Cap Battery / Cap Recharger 2x Medium Armor Rep / 2x MagStab / Cap Power Relay / EANM / Armor Explosive Hardener Medium Aux Nanopump II Medium CCC II Medium CCC I 5x Hammerhead / 5x Hobgoblin You'll need some shiny mods and good skills to make it all fit.
Risien Drogonne Aliastra Gallente Federation 116	Posted - 2013.01.20 19:26:00 - [17] - Quote As others mentioned, it's not exactly the most efficient level 4 boat in the game... But it sure is fun. It feels like flying a bigger, beefier Ishkur, which is my favorite ship in the game.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 12753	Posted - 2013.01.20 19:41:00 - [18] - Quote Risien Drogonne wrote: As others mentioned, it's not exactly the most efficient level 4 boat in the game... But it sure is fun. It feels like flying a bigger, beefier Ishkur, which is my favorite ship in the game. GÇªand with the skills you have for the Proteus, you can get the Ishtar, which is better for PvE in pretty much every way. Vote Malcanis for CSM8.
Risien Drogonne Aliastra Gallente Federation 116	Posted - 2013.01.21 06:29:00 - [19] - Quote Tippia wrote: Risien Drogonne wrote: As others mentioned, it's not exactly the most efficient level 4 boat in the game... But it sure is fun. It feels like flying a bigger, beefier Ishkur, which is my favorite ship in the game. GÇªand with the skills you have for the Proteus, you can get the Ishtar, which is better for PvE in pretty much every way. But not as fun. It really doesn't get much more boring than a sentry drone boat.
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 386	Posted - 2013.01.21 11:25:00 - [20] - Quote Tippia wrote: GÇªand with the skills you have for the Proteus, you can get the Ishtar, which is better for PvE in pretty much every way. Ahem... Meng 80 wrote: I didn't train Drone skills. preferred Blaster.

Robert Lefcourt Audentia et Artis E.B.O.L.A. 15	Posted - 2013.01.21 11:31:00 - [21] - Quote Meng 80 wrote: I just finished my Proteus skill training. Any advise for fitting? Yes. Don't. regards, rob
ChromeStriker The Riot Formation Unclaimed. 459	Posted - 2013.01.21 11:54:00 - [22] - Quote Proteus is one of only a few ships that can tank the high end 10/10 complex's... standing still... - Nulla Curas
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 12763	Posted - 2013.01.21 13:55:00 - [23] - Quote Barrogh Habalu wrote: Tippia wrote: GÇªand with the skills you have for the Proteus, you can get the Ishtar, which is better for PvE in pretty much every way. Ahem... Meng 80 wrote: I didn't train Drone skills. preferred Blaster. Yes, but the Ishtar is stil lbetter in pretty much every way. Hell, even with just a day or three worth of drone skills, he'll outperform that poor blaster Proteus for missions in an Ishtar (and in a drone proteus if he absolutely has to use that ship). Vote Malcanis for CSM8.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 483	Posted - 2013.01.21 14:46:00 - [24] - Quote Meng 80 wrote: I just finished my Proteus skill training. Any advise for fitting? I didn't train Drone skills. preferred Blaster. Thanks! Proteus is quite awful for missions be it blaster or rails fitted. Best way to use your Prot skills is to build an UBoat (cloack blaster gank fit) and go kill baddies or heavy tackle surrounded by good friends. If you really intend to mission with that just don't, really, don't even waste time trying.
Mike Whiite Cupid Stunts. 120	Posted - 2013.01.21 14:59:00 - [25] - Quote Meng 80 wrote: Thanks for the advise. Do you know what Proteus can do in PVE? Low/nul sec exploirations, it shines there, you can fit lots of utillity mods and still have a gank and a tank to run them.
Meng 80 Nvwa Garden 0	Posted - 2013.01.21 17:40:00 - [26] - Quote Mike Whiite wrote: Meng 80 wrote: Thanks for the advise. Do you know what Proteus can do in PVE? Low/nul sec exploirations, it shines there, you can fit lots of utillity mods and still have a gank and a tank to run them. Do you have any recommend fit for that?
Vilnius Zar Ordo Ardish 661	Posted - 2013.01.21 17:56:00 - [27] - Quote Tippia wrote: Barrogh Habalu wrote: Tippia wrote: GÇªand with the skills you have for the Proteus, you can get the Ishtar, which is better for PvE in pretty much every way. Ahem... Meng 80 wrote: I didn't train Drone skills. preferred Blaster. Yes, but the Ishtar is stil lbetter in pretty much every way. Hell, even with just a day or three worth of drone skills, he'll outperform that poor blaster Proteus for missions in an Ishtar (and in a drone proteus if he absolutely has to use that ship). Sentry proteus is better than a sentry Ishtar, people look at Prot bandwidth and come to a quick conclusion but it's not that simple. An ishtar has trouble fitting tank + DDA +omniD and the proteus doesn't. Result is that the proteus can fit 3 DDA while having enough tank for a lvl 4 and have 2 omniD at the same time and still be stable. So it has more damage and more tracking/range while having more tank and being faster. Don't discard a sentry Proteus purely based on its 100m3 bandwidth (it's also the best explorer or all the T3s btw) Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything. Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish
Flakey Foont 224	Posted - 2013.01.24 16:02:00 - [28] - Quote Tippia wrote: Risien Drogonne wrote: As others mentioned, it's not exactly the most efficient level 4 boat in the game... But it sure is fun. It feels like flying a bigger, beefier Ishkur, which is my favorite ship in the game. GÇªand with the skills you have for the Proteus, you can get the Ishtar, which is better for PvE in pretty much every way. Yeah but sometimes even Gallente get sick of drones...
Backfyre Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 39	Posted - 2013.01.25 19:07:00 - [29] - Quote Mission proteus works just fine. I tried both blasters and rails. Blasters took way to long to fly between targets. Rails can start spanking the rats at 80k. Rails turned out to be much faster on average.


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