But have you considered starting and I don't know, destroying each others fleets to pass the time while structure grinding?

They kissed and made up. This is getting real old real fast. Null-sec is dieing more and more every minute. (IRC just gave away an entire region to CFC. Just like that )

Is it me or are these guys (CFC & HBC) just terrible pussies.

Ow btw. TEST is run by Shadoo it seems.

Nullsec is a RMT joke. And not finding anything better to do, they are ruining the game experience for low and highsec inhabitants. Nullsec bigheads dont care about the game at all. They care only for their pockets.

"those damned nullbears don't want to grind 200 systems worth of structures, hypocrites"

I concede.-á

Shadoo has talked me off of the ledge, I have released the hostage and dropped my knife. After discussing this with other HBC leaders a reset and expanded NIP / OTEC agreement is the best path forward. It isn't what I want, but it is what you want. I want war. I want gigantic ******* battles. I want to crash nodes because people are so ******* interested in this ****** game.

Shadoo has promised to give me what I want without the nastyness of sov grinds.

#### SENT BY Montolio to All online hbc @ 2013-01-23 00:55:11 EVE Time ####

Who would have thought that PL of all people would pull him off the edge?

since you clearly have infallible evidence about nullsec leaders and RMT, perhaps you should send it to [email protected]

oh pls...

Zloco Crendraven is a botter and likes WoW and has a secret crush on CCP Falcon! LOL LOL

delete the code that enabled outpost docking rights if you want people to move to null

If CCP wanted super powers to fight and they refuse to shorten their blues list, CCP could just shorten it for them.

Their game, not CFCs

Go hump your daddy mittani's leg some more about it because you can't stand that your pilots are actually dumb enough to die to the "bunch of children" blopsing the hell out of them.

since you clearly have infallible evidence about nullsec leaders and RMT, perhaps you should send it to [email protected]

Is that a faction Damage Control unit you are using?

You know there is a saying: "There is no smoke without fire" People may have no valid proof, but they sure see a lot of smoke!

Why so angry?

ITT people who've never been in a structure grind want to have a structure grind. Also, Snot Shot taking the opportunity to proclaim that everyone needs to play his version of EVE and not their own.

Objective: People want to shoot at each other.
Outcome: People can now shoot at each other.

Op success.

If structure grind sucks and no one wants to do it then your sovereignty is actually pretty safe.

While structure is currency it does not move quickly, its a PITA to move actually. If your opponent goes after structure they tie themsleves up in a fight that their pilots hate. Giving you time and materials to create excitement and drive. And to manufacture the real currency of excitement. Which can be used to purchase pilots to take back any losses of "structure".

This isn't a war for structure, it is a war for currency waged with resolve and understanding which Montolio has just conceded. Even though he actually had the upper hand.

It isn't a war for structure now that structures have been taken off the table because ^^^^^^^ HEY CCP, STRUCTURE MECHANICS SUCK. Also, Montolio never had the upper hand in "resolve" and "understanding." He's a spoiled pyromaniac manchild who wanted to gather up all the toys someone else bought for him and light them on fire just to watch them burn.

You are solidly on the first floor of understanding. I can't believe that "Structure grind sucks so much that it can be used to burn pilots out."

I concede to your intimate understanding of the complete and udder understanding of the absolutely obvious.

For a FW pilot who's likely never shot a tower, you seem oddly optimistic about all the fun to be had grinding/repping structures. Please find other people like yourself and form an alliance to create this structure-based content you seem to enjoy so much.

Do you not want to ever grind structure again?

When my or my allies' space is in danger, I will grind structures. But I will not support talk of "LOL LET'S GO STRUCTURE GRIND FOR FUNSIES!"

Analogy since they seem to be in vogue in this thread:
I don't like getting flu shots. I get one every year when it's necessary to protect myself. But I'm not about to walk into Walgreens every day at lunch and say "stick me! I feel like getting a shot today."

When my or my allies' space is in danger, I will grind structures. But I will not support talk of "LOL LET'S GO STRUCTURE GRIND FOR FUNSIES!"

Analogy since they seem to be in vogue in this thread:
I don't like getting flu shots. I get one every year when it's necessary to protect myself. But I'm not about to walk into Walgreens every day at lunch and say "stick me! I feel like getting a shot today."

For a FW pilot who's likely never shot a tower, you seem oddly optimistic about all the fun to be had grinding/repping structures. Please find other people like yourself and form an alliance to create this structure-based content you seem to enjoy so much.

If structure grind sucks and no one wants to do it then your sovereignty is actually pretty safe. Which free's up pilots to do other things...

Hmmm, how can all these free pilots be used to attack your enemy? What item of value is easier and more fun to take?

What is the real currency here, and what buys them?

I for one am here for excitement and game play and conquest through calculated risk. Give me that and I will follow.

While structure is currency it does not move quickly, its a PITA to move actually. If your opponent goes after structure they tie themsleves up in a fight that their pilots hate. Giving you time and materials to create excitement and drive. And to manufacture the real currency of excitement. Which can be used to purchase pilots to take back any losses of "structure".

This isn't a war for structure, it is a war for currency waged with resolve and understanding which Montolio has just conceded. Even though he actually had the upper hand.

*****

CCP should make ships free if you loose one in good PvP. So many people pay to be here, you shouldn't have to grind ISK for 10 hours a week just to get a few ships to play with. This game sucks sometimes.