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Kreep13	Posted - 2005.07.18 01:39:00 - [31] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Uther Agnoius Somehow I feel quite proud only BoB can boast true -10 status. Btw rent is due on our regions soon. Public enemy number one status in the north, I am so thrilled 2 Bill per region per month please. Accounts currently overdue for Venal and Branch, I feel some debt collecting coming on Remember, first you call them and send an exorberant amount of mail, and then you show up at their doorstep. PS: Of course you could always just show up at their doorstep. Don't bother with knocking.
Kreep13 Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2005.07.18 01:39:00 - [32] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Uther Agnoius Somehow I feel quite proud only BoB can boast true -10 status. Btw rent is due on our regions soon. Public enemy number one status in the north, I am so thrilled 2 Bill per region per month please. Accounts currently overdue for Venal and Branch, I feel some debt collecting coming on Remember, first you call them and send an exorberant amount of mail, and then you show up at their doorstep. PS: Of course you could always just show up at their doorstep. Don't bother with knocking.
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:02:00 - [33] Just a few things from a MC peon #1: Why do you still hold all MC corps at -10 standings? We arent gonna come up there and blow u up unless we are contracted against you, which we arent (at the moment ). You setting us to -10 will only make me actively seek you out in 0.0 if i see any of you. This seems a bit like sour grapes etc etc but whatever, just curious #2: How do you intend to defend venal when all of you are down in Agil making babies with Xirtam et al? Just curious as when ur home was under attack from us during our contract none of you were ever there (apart from the few that we killed) yet now i see 30-40 ship fleets in Agil and HED? Whats with that? Oh i know ur attacking 5, but still, u never ever fought us when we went looking for you, but now your down there helping IMP? I dont understand this #3: Half of the IMP corps you have +10 standings too are no longer IMP. In fact i think they have shed about 8-9 corps since the MC declared on them. No doubt they will rejoin, as this is what always happens (and they all have "proud member of blah blah alliance" in their bios etc etc yeah proud to suck roids but not proud to fight. how ghey?) but just thought you should know that most of those corps arent IMP anymore Forums: Sharks * MC
Eyeshadow Caldari The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2005.07.18 13:02:00 - [34] Just a few things from a MC peon #1: Why do you still hold all MC corps at -10 standings? We arent gonna come up there and blow u up unless we are contracted against you, which we arent (at the moment ). You setting us to -10 will only make me actively seek you out in 0.0 if i see any of you. This seems a bit like sour grapes etc etc but whatever, just curious #2: How do you intend to defend venal when all of you are down in Agil making babies with Xirtam et al? Just curious as when ur home was under attack from us during our contract none of you were ever there (apart from the few that we killed) yet now i see 30-40 ship fleets in Agil and HED? Whats with that? Oh i know ur attacking 5, but still, u never ever fought us when we went looking for you, but now your down there helping IMP? I dont understand this #3: Half of the IMP corps you have +10 standings too are no longer IMP. In fact i think they have shed about 8-9 corps since the MC declared on them. No doubt they will rejoin, as this is what always happens (and they all have "proud member of blah blah alliance" in their bios etc etc yeah proud to suck roids but not proud to fight. how ghey?) but just thought you should know that most of those corps arent IMP anymore
Seleene	Posted - 2005.07.18 14:01:00 - [35] Edited by: Seleene on 18/07/2005 14:01:35 As Eyeshadow has correctly stated, your FoF list is woefully out of date with current events. As to your standings towards the MC, I would urge the PA leadership to visit the MC's website as a reminder of exactly who we are and what we represent. LINKAGE We have no personal issues with PA and currently have you set to neutral standings. It would be advisable for you to do the same to avoid any mishaps, yes? Please clarify your stance in this matter as soon as possible, please. - We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem!
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2005.07.18 14:01:00 - [36] Edited by: Seleene on 18/07/2005 14:01:35 As Eyeshadow has correctly stated, your FoF list is woefully out of date with current events. As to your standings towards the MC, I would urge the PA leadership to visit the MC's website as a reminder of exactly who we are and what we represent. LINKAGE We have no personal issues with PA and currently have you set to neutral standings. It would be advisable for you to do the same to avoid any mishaps, yes? Please clarify your stance in this matter as soon as possible, please. - Vid - 'Killing Mother'
Draconian	Posted - 2005.07.18 15:26:00 - [37] standing change very fast so ppl change alliances etc ingame standings r up to date b/c i manage them myself imo not pa's MC still attack us in 0.0 even after ur contact was over so there is no point in resetting ur stand to make it ezer to attack ppl
Draconian Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2005.07.18 15:26:00 - [38] standing change very fast so ppl change alliances etc ingame standings r up to date b/c i manage them myself imo not pa's MC still attack us in 0.0 even after ur contact was over so there is no point in resetting ur stand to make it ezer to attack ppl
Seleene	Posted - 2005.07.18 16:59:00 - [39] Originally by: Draconian MC still attack us in 0.0 even after ur contact was over so there is no point in resetting ur stand to make it ezer to attack ppl You, sir, are wrong, misinformed and about six other words. Since the end of our last contract against PA, there have been exactly two kills against your alliance. One was an Imperium war-dodger who we caught in PF not two hours after he'd engaged us as a member of Imperium. The other was a Raven in Uphallant who thought it might be fun to take a couple shots at an MC Megathron in low sec. Turns out it's not a good idea after all. Two kills outside of a contract due to different circumstances, both of which were brought on by the players themselves. Were you even aware of either of these incidents? I doubt it. If so, what other atacks in "0.0" against PA has an MC pilot taken part in? Please tell me so that I can take the appropriate action. Your security standing against the MC shows a complete lack of knowledge of our character and is an insult to our honor. We do not attack pilots unless we have a contract against them or they present a clear and present danger to our current operations. Unless you have evidence to support your claims, your standings are bogus and are meant as nothing more than to provoke us into a pro-active defense against your members. You are already aiding Imperium whom we have a contract against currently. If you give us reason to believe that PA will be hostile to us as well, then you leave us little choice but to consider you hostile everywhere. I suggest you elevate this to those in PA who can make an informed decision. Thank you. - We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem!
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2005.07.18 16:59:00 - [40] Originally by: Draconian MC still attack us in 0.0 even after ur contact was over so there is no point in resetting ur stand to make it ezer to attack ppl You, sir, are wrong, misinformed and about six other words. Since the end of our last contract against PA, there have been exactly two kills against your alliance. One was an Imperium war-dodger who we caught in PF not two hours after he'd engaged us as a member of Imperium. The other was a Raven in Uphallant who thought it might be fun to take a couple shots at an MC Megathron in low sec. Turns out it's not a good idea after all. Two kills outside of a contract due to different circumstances, both of which were brought on by the players themselves. Were you even aware of either of these incidents? I doubt it. If so, what other atacks in "0.0" against PA has an MC pilot taken part in? Please tell me so that I can take the appropriate action. Your security standing against the MC shows a complete lack of knowledge of our character and is an insult to our honor. We do not attack pilots unless we have a contract against them or they present a clear and present danger to our current operations. Unless you have evidence to support your claims, your standings are bogus and are meant as nothing more than to provoke us into a pro-active defense against your members. You are already aiding Imperium whom we have a contract against currently. If you give us reason to believe that PA will be hostile to us as well, then you leave us little choice but to consider you hostile everywhere. I suggest you elevate this to those in PA who can make an informed decision. Thank you. - Vid - 'Killing Mother'
Shintoko Akahoshi	Posted - 2005.07.18 17:19:00 - [41] Quote: Furthermore, the Phoenix Alliance asserts its resolve in the common defence of its claimed regions: Venal, Branch and the protectorate Pure Blind. You're claiming Pure Blind as a protectorate?
Shintoko Akahoshi Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2005.07.18 17:19:00 - [42] Quote: Furthermore, the Phoenix Alliance asserts its resolve in the common defence of its claimed regions: Venal, Branch and the protectorate Pure Blind. You're claiming Pure Blind as a protectorate? Omerta Syndicate Biotechnical Research
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.07.18 17:35:00 - [43] Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi Quote: Furthermore, the Phoenix Alliance asserts its resolve in the common defence of its claimed regions: Venal, Branch and the protectorate Pure Blind. You're claiming Pure Blind as a protectorate? I think PB has always been a PA protectorate. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!! In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable) "This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
Darken Two Gallente Hybonashi Industries Kith of Venal	Posted - 2005.07.18 17:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi Quote: Furthermore, the Phoenix Alliance asserts its resolve in the common defence of its claimed regions: Venal, Branch and the protectorate Pure Blind. You're claiming Pure Blind as a protectorate? I think PB has always been a PA protectorate. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Shintoko Akahoshi	Posted - 2005.07.19 00:13:00 - [45] Guess that's what happens when I let my "Scope" subscription run out...
Shintoko Akahoshi Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2005.07.19 00:13:00 - [46] Guess that's what happens when I let my "Scope" subscription run out... Omerta Syndicate Biotechnical Research
Shadar Ishaan	Posted - 2005.07.19 10:37:00 - [47] If you have an issue with our standings, please contact christoforos or Tomw to discuss your point of view. --------------- Phoenix Alliance Press Officer
Shadar Ishaan Caldari Gang of Four	Posted - 2005.07.19 10:37:00 - [48] If you have an issue with our standings, please contact christoforos or Tomw to discuss your point of view. ----------
christoforos	Posted - 2005.07.19 10:48:00 - [49] Edited by: christoforos on 19/07/2005 10:48:26 Edited by: christoforos on 19/07/2005 10:48:10 Some answers to these questions with the order they were posted. -Our standing towards FIX, is positive while we operate in the South, since we share common enemies. A FIX diplomat can contact me for any further discussion about standings. -Most of the FoF list list was compiled when we had to set standing for each individual corp. Now with the alliance standings it's easier to have updated standings toward official alliances, so some member lists of these alliances are outdated. If anyone feels that should be included or removed from our FoF list as friend or enemy, he can contact me. -For MC standings, I don't understand why you are offended. I respect that you are mercenaries and that you operate with strict rules, but when you attack someone, it can't be forgotten the momment your contract ends. Anyway at this momment your contract is against one of our close allies that we operate in common gangs in 0.0 space, so standing is justified, since you are a threat to our gangs. -As for Pure Blind it is an unclaimed region but it is one of our vital empire routes and we will try to protect it, at least the main Torrinos - Venal route. We don't dictate who lives there and what he does, as long as he doesn't interfere with free traffic. Director of External Affairs The Phoenix Alliance
christoforos Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2005.07.19 10:48:00 - [50] Edited by: christoforos on 19/07/2005 10:51:16 Edited by: christoforos on 19/07/2005 10:50:13 Some answers to these questions with the order they were posted. -Our standing towards FIX, is positive while we operate in the South, since we share common enemies. A FIX diplomat can contact me for any further discussion about standings. -Most of the FoF list list was compiled when we had to set standing for each individual corp. Now with the alliance standings it's easier to have updated standings toward official alliances, so some member lists of these alliances are outdated. If anyone feels that should be included or removed from our FoF list as friend or enemy, he can contact me. -For MC standings, I don't understand why you are offended. I respect that you are mercenaries and that you operate with strict rules, but when you attack someone, it can't be forgotten the momment your contract ends. Anyway at this momment your contract is against one of our close allies that we operate in common gangs in 0.0 space, so standing is justified, since you are a threat to our gangs. We may consider our standings after your current contract ends. -As for Pure Blind it is an unclaimed region but it is one of our vital empire routes and we will try to protect it, at least the main Torrinos - Venal route. We don't dictate who lives there and what he does, as long as he doesn't interfere with free traffic.
Draconian	Posted - 2005.07.19 11:58:00 - [51] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Draconian MC still attack us in 0.0 even after ur contact was over so there is no point in resetting ur stand to make it ezer to attack ppl You, sir, are wrong, misinformed and about six other words. Since the end of our last contract against PA, there have been exactly two kills against your alliance. One was an Imperium war-dodger who we caught in PF not two hours after he'd engaged us as a member of Imperium. The other was a Raven in Uphallant who thought it might be fun to take a couple shots at an MC Megathron in low sec. Turns out it's not a good idea after all. Two kills outside of a contract due to different circumstances, both of which were brought on by the players themselves. Were you even aware of either of these incidents? I doubt it. If so, what other atacks in "0.0" against PA has an MC pilot taken part in? Please tell me so that I can take the appropriate action. Your security standing against the MC shows a complete lack of knowledge of our character and is an insult to our honor. We do not attack pilots unless we have a contract against them or they present a clear and present danger to our current operations. Unless you have evidence to support your claims, your standings are bogus and are meant as nothing more than to provoke us into a pro-active defense against your members. You are already aiding Imperium whom we have a contract against currently. If you give us reason to believe that PA will be hostile to us as well, then you leave us little choice but to consider you hostile everywhere. I suggest you elevate this to those in PA who can make an informed decision. Thank you. lol btw it was me u attacked in an indy btw i said shot at not killed many MC aggressed but failed to kill which was the case with my indy ergo no killmail btw i am aware of all kills related to the north i have five mc andbob killboards linked all which i check daily 2 words you lose
Draconian Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2005.07.19 11:58:00 - [52] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Draconian MC still attack us in 0.0 even after ur contact was over so there is no point in resetting ur stand to make it ezer to attack ppl You, sir, are wrong, misinformed and about six other words. Since the end of our last contract against PA, there have been exactly two kills against your alliance. One was an Imperium war-dodger who we caught in PF not two hours after he'd engaged us as a member of Imperium. The other was a Raven in Uphallant who thought it might be fun to take a couple shots at an MC Megathron in low sec. Turns out it's not a good idea after all. Two kills outside of a contract due to different circumstances, both of which were brought on by the players themselves. Were you even aware of either of these incidents? I doubt it. If so, what other atacks in "0.0" against PA has an MC pilot taken part in? Please tell me so that I can take the appropriate action. Your security standing against the MC shows a complete lack of knowledge of our character and is an insult to our honor. We do not attack pilots unless we have a contract against them or they present a clear and present danger to our current operations. Unless you have evidence to support your claims, your standings are bogus and are meant as nothing more than to provoke us into a pro-active defense against your members. You are already aiding Imperium whom we have a contract against currently. If you give us reason to believe that PA will be hostile to us as well, then you leave us little choice but to consider you hostile everywhere. I suggest you elevate this to those in PA who can make an informed decision. Thank you. lol btw it was me u attacked in an indy btw i said shot at not killed many MC aggressed but failed to kill which was the case with my indy ergo no killmail btw i am aware of all kills related to the north i have five mc andbob killboards linked all which i check daily 2 words you lose
Seleene	Posted - 2005.07.19 12:28:00 - [53] Originally by: christoforos For MC standings, I don't understand why you are offended. I respect that you are mercenaries and that you operate with strict rules, but when you attack someone, it can't be forgotten the momment your contract ends. Anyway at this momment your contract is against one of our close allies that we operate in common gangs in 0.0 space, so standing is justified, since you are a threat to our gangs. We may consider our standings after your current contract ends. Thank you for the reply. Considering the nature of our current contract, we shall consult with our client and come to an internal consensus. Our response will be forthcoming. Originally by: Draconian lol btw it was me u attacked in an indy btw i said shot at not killed many MC aggressed but failed to kill which was the case with my indy ergo no killmail btw i am aware of all kills related to the north i have five mc andbob killboards linked all which i check daily 2 words you lose MC pilots go to great lengths to not shoot neutral armed warships in 0.0, yet you claim you were fired upon in an indy? An indy that "many MC" failed to destroy. Well, "many MC" is not the name of anyone in the Mercenary Coalition. You must be mistaken, sir. Regardless, your indy is safe for now. Do your alliance a favor and stop trying to antagonize the situation. - We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem!
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2005.07.19 12:28:00 - [54] Originally by: christoforos For MC standings, I don't understand why you are offended. I respect that you are mercenaries and that you operate with strict rules, but when you attack someone, it can't be forgotten the momment your contract ends. Anyway at this momment your contract is against one of our close allies that we operate in common gangs in 0.0 space, so standing is justified, since you are a threat to our gangs. We may consider our standings after your current contract ends. Thank you for the reply. Considering the nature of our current contract, we shall consult with our client and come to an internal consensus. Our response will be forthcoming. Originally by: Draconian lol btw it was me u attacked in an indy btw i said shot at not killed many MC aggressed but failed to kill which was the case with my indy ergo no killmail btw i am aware of all kills related to the north i have five mc andbob killboards linked all which i check daily 2 words you lose MC pilots go to great lengths to not shoot neutral armed warships in 0.0, yet you claim you were fired upon in an indy? An indy that "many MC" failed to destroy. Well, "many MC" is not the name of anyone in the Mercenary Coalition. You must be mistaken, sir. Regardless, your indy is safe for now. Do your alliance a favor and stop trying to antagonize the situation. - Vid - 'Killing Mother'
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2005.07.19 13:53:00 - [55] /me rattles his sabre Forums: Sharks * MC
Eyeshadow Caldari The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2005.07.19 13:53:00 - [56] /me rattles his sabre
arjun	Posted - 2005.07.19 16:45:00 - [57] MC and contracts huh... havent seen them in a contract, which was not against a 5/bob enemy in the last months. im not really sure there are contracts. they wanna shoot whichever alliance they want and instead of being called pirates they want to be called mercs in white shining armor. if they show up in any alliances claimed space they are either doing a "contract" versus the local residents or versus their neighbours. no reason to not atack them if they show up in claimed space, except you dont like your neighbours of course :-). additionally. why should they have the right of free movement? anytime soon they might be out on a "contract" versus you. locals have every reason to hinder their movement or atack them if they can. "we shot you but now we are good again, see you next time and dont bother us, if we shoot your neighbours." wouldnt work for me.
arjun Die Apokalyptischen Reiter Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2005.07.19 16:45:00 - [58] MC and contracts huh... havent seen them in a contract, which was not against a 5/bob enemy in the last months. im not really sure there are contracts. they wanna shoot whichever alliance they want and instead of being called pirates they want to be called mercs in white shining armor. if they show up in any alliances claimed space they are either doing a "contract" versus the local residents or versus their neighbours. no reason to not atack them if they show up in claimed space, except you dont like your neighbours of course :-). additionally. why should they have the right of free movement? anytime soon they might be out on a "contract" versus you. locals have every reason to hinder their movement or atack them if they can. "we shot you but now we are good again, see you next time and dont bother us, if we shoot your neighbours." wouldnt work for me.
Seleene	Posted - 2005.07.19 17:17:00 - [59] Edited by: Seleene on 19/07/2005 17:17:16 Originally by: arjun MC and contracts huh... havent seen them in a contract, which was not against a 5/bob enemy in the last months. I, nor any other MC CEO, has been contacted by you with regard to such a contract. Should you have the collateral to secure such a contract, feel free to visit our website and send in a request for a quote. Thank you for your interest in the affairs of the MC. - We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem!
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2005.07.19 17:17:00 - [60] Edited by: Seleene on 19/07/2005 17:17:16 Originally by: arjun MC and contracts huh... havent seen them in a contract, which was not against a 5/bob enemy in the last months. I, nor any other MC CEO, has been contacted by you with regard to such a contract. Should you have the collateral to secure such a contract, feel free to visit our website and send in a request for a quote. Thank you for your interest in the affairs of the MC. - Vid - 'Killing Mother'

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