Well, it's related anyway.

So, right now the only real solution to Sansha missions is to do them in a missile boat, ok, fair enough. What is to happen to missile boats against Sansha when/if CCP gets to tweaking TD to affect missiles (read somewhere this was a new planned 'feature')? Does anyone know the specifics on how they would affect them?

OT: Anyone know which CCP employee to be a pest to on Twitter about addressing the TD issue? They haven't addressed the forum threads in a couple of weeks.

Fit a prop mod. Fly to td sansha.
Kill said sansha.

Stop whining.

Yeah because noone had thought of that already and its working so well.

I smell stinky bridge troll.

Fit a prop mod. Fly to td sansha.
Kill said sansha.

Stop whining.

Fail troll. Undock moar.

Td isn't sensor dampening, once you've closed within the 5km range, your tracking is so bad you can't hit BS rats. Try Sansha Blockade and note the difference from Serp Blockade - former is impossible, later is merely annoying. The whole issue with td is that it has no counter for turret boats other than dual boxing.

I assure you i undock every day.
You have fail skills.
My gunnery is maxed out. Is yours?
Add transversal to your overview and match speed.
Battleships and cruisers will die.

lrn2eve before you unskilled idiots start calling others trolls because you fail.
Move to level 3s or level 2s if you can't handle the td.

Fail troll.

Max skill. Also have hardwiring, And no, that 5% doesn't make a difference either. You don't match BS rat's 20 m/s crawl, which is more than your guns can track. Undock moar. Try Sansha Blockade or any plex on for size.

I'm the fail troll and you cant run missions?
I use a mach and a nightmare. I run all level 4s just fine. (I don't do Gallente/Minmatar)
There are even a few level 5s that i do just fine.
If you have the same ship/gunnery skills that i have then you are doing it wrong.
Please stop trolling, look at your fit, and fix it.

You can match bs rats if you approach them directly. They fly directly away from you and attempt to get to orbit range.
Try it before you come back here and say i am wrong.

Wrong. The tiniest twitch, and your guns miss. Go try any Sansha blockade or plex instead of imagining it in your head. Undock moar.

So you didn't try...not in the 4 minutes it took you to post a reply.
It works. I do it.
Have done a Sansha Blockade in the past 3 days on this account.
It is you that needs to undock.
I'm right.
/thread

TROLOLOLOL.

I guess that fact that CCP released new NPC AI while admitting this is intended for the new PVE revamp (NPC to act more like players which means far few ships per mission because of how much they EWAR now).

GTFO here.

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What you say is really relevant.

So, right now the only real solution to Sansha missions is to do them in a missile boat.

Ildryn is one of the best pilots I've played with so if he says it works I am inclined to believe. all I can think is great now the mach is better vs sanshas than the nightmare. I liked having a ship that was better at some things.

all praise the machariel the pve god boat!

Oh look, your alt loves you

And just a reminder, TD these days affect falloff too.

My alt (and only alt) is named Rike Ewann.
Chainsaw is a longtime friend.
You are just making yourself look bitter for being wrong.

Do you do said missions with 2 ships on grid ?
If so then yeah.....ofcourse you don't have any issues.

Single account folk like myself and others here who HAVE maxed gunnery skills with 5% implants are having trouble with some TD-ing. Unless ofcourse you use sentries and/or a MJD.

I fly paladin for Sansha/Bloods and Vargur for Angel rats, guess which eats missions quicker

all praise the machariel the pve god boat!