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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2005.07.04 00:06:00 -
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Since many of us buy and sell simple and complex output in Yulai, I'm wondering what folks are thinking the replacement for this convenience is going to be. For me the number of jumps is 350% increase over what I have now and I'm not sure I'm willing to do multiple round trips with an indy to move the stuff 15 to 20 jumps one-way...
Ideas?
BW
 Originally by: Harisdrop
No I think you hit it right on winterblink. I agree most sci fi nerds that play Eve are 4-7 in thier social and tact skills. Pirates Yarr!!!!
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Lythius Arcturnus
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Posted - 2005.07.04 00:13:00 -
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Each empire will probably end up with its own sales hot spots. Freighters will alleviate the problem though. Corps who sole purpose is hauling will be viable now. In fact trading as a whole will become that much more profitable and complex. I kinda like the subtilties it introduces. Besides, the whole point is dividing the empires, so its time to CHOOSE YOUR SIDE! :P
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.07.04 00:44:00 -
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pator - is linked to almost 3 empires by their shortest routes iirc.
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.07.04 01:12:00 -
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No map changes in the world will change the fact Yulai is the hub of the Universe.
People come from 0.0 to sell there so another few jumps wont stop them.
I am confident however that there will be great opertunities for those who strive to setup smaller Regional hubs and mvoe goods between them.
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Cannedbeef
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Posted - 2005.07.04 04:45:00 -
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Rawthorn, Yulai is not central.. its soo deep in Gallente space its spouting flowers
Pator will be the new hub, its the most conveniently located. We all have a part to make it so.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.07.04 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm
No map changes in the world will change the fact Yulai is the hub of the Universe. People come from 0.0 to sell there so another few jumps wont stop them.
No but another 10 jumps will stop them. Yulai will not be the hub anymore, thats one of the major points of the NWO.
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Daddy's Princess
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Posted - 2005.07.04 08:08:00 -
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I hope it is Pator. It would be so damn convenient for some. Me for example. 
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Oron
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Posted - 2005.07.04 08:10:00 -
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Regional HUBs will raise. I guess Pator, Tanoo, Armarr for sure. I am not sure about caldari empire.. perhabs Nonni. In addition to those "Empire HUBs" smaller HUBs will raise too - to come even closer to the customer.
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Oron
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Posted - 2005.07.04 08:11:00 -
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Regional HUBs will raise. I guess Pator, Tanoo, Armarr for sure. I am not sure about caldari empire.. perhabs Nonni. In addition to those "Empire HUBs" smaller HUBs will raise too - to come even closer to the customer.
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2005.07.04 12:07:00 -
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all go to amarr 
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.07.04 13:43:00 -
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Penirgman is a very nicely located system for the south. That would make a VERY viable hub.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2005.07.04 15:12:00 -
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or you could say that, at least for a while, nobody will know where to buy something so they will end up in Yulai anyhow as that is the best bet if somebody is looking for something, regardless of whether its close or not.
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2005.07.04 16:31:00 -
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As someone pointed out what might happen is strong markets will emerge in two or three systems in every region. In a way most regions will entirely become self sufficent instead of relying on the usual yulai/jita/nonni combo for major trade.
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Aikudos En'Fellamen
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Posted - 2005.07.04 18:05:00 -
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I really hope that regional markets will develop, so that the producers of EVE will have a chance to actually make good living out of tech I stuff.
As EVE is now, 95% of all business is done in 3-5 systems, all located within 7 jumps of each other max. It has to change in my opinion.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.04 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cannedbeef
Rawthorn, Yulai is not central.. its soo deep in Gallente space its spouting flowers
Pator will be the new hub, its the most conveniently located. We all have a part to make it so.
errrr, yulai is in genesis.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.07.04 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zhuge Liang
As someone pointed out what might happen is strong markets will emerge in two or three systems in every region. In a way most regions will entirely become self sufficent instead of relying on the usual yulai/jita/nonni combo for major trade.
This will not and cannot happen because of the way the trade skills work. T2 and many named items will require a LOT of travel to gather.
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Torgrim
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Posted - 2005.07.04 18:31:00 -
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Atlast the highways are removed
EVE is going too be big again.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2005.07.04 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Zhuge Liang
As someone pointed out what might happen is strong markets will emerge in two or three systems in every region. In a way most regions will entirely become self sufficent instead of relying on the usual yulai/jita/nonni combo for major trade.
This will not and cannot happen because of the way the trade skills work. T2 and many named items will require a LOT of travel to gather.
Maya is dead right here. The elimination of highways is going to nuke the T2 component industry. Just watch and see. Prices on tech II stuff will go up within the month, and supply of tech II components, and (eventually, when ppl's stockpiles dry up) tech II ships and modules will become increasingly rare.
MAYBE freighters will change that, if they're not too easy to gank. I know for sure there will be a viable profession for long distance traders now, what I'm not so sure about is who will want to do the job.
Please CCP, if this change goes ahead, reduce the base size of raw, processed and advanced materials to 0.1 m3 each, so that a blockade runner can carry a week's production (unlike the status quo where a week's production of even a simple reaction requires 2 Iteron Vs to carry).
BW
Originally by: Harisdrop
No I think you hit it right on winterblink. I agree most sci fi nerds that play Eve are 4-7 in thier social and tact skills. Pirates Yarr!!!!
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Torgrim
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Posted - 2005.07.04 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Torgrim on 04/07/2005 20:24:22
Originally by: Bobby Wilson
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Zhuge Liang
As someone pointed out what might happen is strong markets will emerge in two or three systems in every region. In a way most regions will entirely become self sufficent instead of relying on the usual yulai/jita/nonni combo for major trade.
This will not and cannot happen because of the way the trade skills work. T2 and many named items will require a LOT of travel to gather.
Maya is dead right here. The elimination of highways is going to nuke the T2 component industry. Just watch and see. Prices on tech II stuff will go up within the month, and supply of tech II components, and (eventually, when ppl's stockpiles dry up) tech II ships and modules will become increasingly rare.
MAYBE freighters will change that, if they're not too easy to gank. I know for sure there will be a viable profession for long distance traders now, what I'm not so sure about is who will want to do the job.
Please CCP, if this change goes ahead, reduce the base size of raw, processed and advanced materials to 0.1 m3 each, so that a blockade runner can carry a week's production (unlike the status quo where a week's production of even a simple reaction requires 2 Iteron Vs to carry).
BW
Why should it be easy?
Imean this promote that small corp can make big bucks doing Tech II mods.
While Tech II things gonna cost more overtime, then for the first time in EVEs history you can make alot of money by just trading, and there are alot of people out there that love too trade.
I realy dont see the problem here.
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Pallas Athene
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Posted - 2005.07.04 20:44:00 -
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I started a thread about this issue a few days ago where i proposed to set up a market consortium and create hub systems in every region.
There¦s a chat channel allready in place for it.
Here¦s the link if you want to take a look.
Market & Customer Care Consortium
There¦s huge interest in it allready and i invite everybody to join in and discuss this in game.
And no, Yulai will lose its role completely.
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Cannedbeef
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Posted - 2005.07.04 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cannedbeef
Rawthorn, Yulai is not central.. its soo deep in Gallente space its spouting flowers
Pator will be the new hub, its the most conveniently located. We all have a part to make it so.
errrr, yulai is in genesis.
errrr, look at the map.
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Selak Zorander
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Posted - 2005.07.04 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Selak Zorander on 04/07/2005 21:57:53
Originally by: Cannedbeef
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cannedbeef
Rawthorn, Yulai is not central.. its soo deep in Gallente space its spouting flowers
Pator will be the new hub, its the most conveniently located. We all have a part to make it so.
errrr, yulai is in genesis.
errrr, look at the map.
actualy, you should....
Yulai is the the Sanctum constellation of the Genesis region....Show info is a wonderful thing
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Pallas Athene
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Posted - 2005.07.04 23:45:00 -
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Fact is that the region are now seperated from each other and it¦s not practical ta have a single hub system.
Travelling distances are going to be much longer after the patch.
Even worse, the core empire regions will be almost deserted.
My guess is that 70% of the entire EVE market transactions will take place within 0,0 border regions...
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2005.07.05 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pallas Athene
I started a thread about this issue a few days ago where i proposed to set up a market consortium and create hub systems in every region.
There¦s a chat channel allready in place for it.
Here¦s the link if you want to take a look.
Market & Customer Care Consortium
There¦s huge interest in it allready and i invite everybody to join in and discuss this in game.
And no, Yulai will lose its role completely.
Good news :)
BW
Originally by: Harisdrop
No I think you hit it right on winterblink. I agree most sci fi nerds that play Eve are 4-7 in thier social and tact skills. Pirates Yarr!!!!
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2005.07.05 20:44:00 -
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Why would you actually want to replace it.... 
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Rthor
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Posted - 2005.07.05 22:29:00 -
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is Yulai still there?
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.07.05 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rthor
is Yulai still there?
yes but now its a backwater system in the middle of nowhere
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Peri Stark
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Posted - 2005.07.06 02:01:00 -
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I guess its just a matter of what your used to. When I first started playing I was surprised that it was so easy to move from one region to the next. Many space flight games, freelancer for example, have bad systems that must be crossed to get from one major region to the next. This will really mess up my bm"s though.
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Mesasone
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Posted - 2005.07.06 07:22:00 -
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Yulai is still close to some of the biggest/busiest systems in Gallente space, so at the least it may remain the hub for the region.
As for the question of why would you want to replace yulai? I dont beleive it's a matter of creating a centalized market system for everything, but the T2 chain it's self will centralize down to one main system. We want to make it easy both for us to sell our products, as well as the people looking to buy t2 comps and reactions. What may happen is that we'll see an even bigger percentage of the t2 chain move to contracts... as if most of the product in market didnt move that way anyhow.
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Deric
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:28:00 -
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Let me be the first to say, I'd love to make a living trading, but the profit you can make in trade is irrelivant if the price of all the things you might buy also goes up.
The rise of "regional markets" is just a positive spin on "increased scarcity" especially in gegards to T2 items since no amount of demand can produce new BPOs. Has anybody bothered to ensure that there's a producer for each T2 item in each region? Empire? Bloc? No.
As nice as it is to provide an increased role for traders, I'm hard pressed to say that anything that artificially makes it more difficult for people to get the things they want is good for the game overall. |
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