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Laocoon
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Posted - 2005.07.05 22:39:00 -
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ok. how does this ACTUALLY work? i know its quite soon but is it... 'working' now? Hows it gonna work? You gonna get missions the same way as usual, except theyre weird missions? or random agent stuff?
please enlighten me 
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2005.07.05 23:18:00 -
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hmm so from the number of views im guessing this is something people are interested in... any comments CCP pleeeease?
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2005.07.05 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Zrakor on 05/07/2005 23:33:29
Works like this:
- COSMOS uses 'agents in space'. Basically these agents are located in space, usually at agent sites. There are currently 2 COSMOS constellations available, 1 in Minmatar space and one in Caldari.
- The agents currently only dish out once-per-character missions, meaning you can't get the same mission more than once. The only exception to this rule are the mini-profession agents, they give recurring missions. The mini-profession agents are linked to the new professions that came in with the patch.
- What you need to talk to these COSMOS agents is standing. They currently use the same standing formula as the old agents you're used to. COSMOS agents also give standing, as the once-per-character mission sequences are considered 'important' and therefore give a nice faction standing boost.
- COSMOS have some special rewards, such as COSMOS-specific modules. They are usually dished out as 3-run blueprint copies.
- More COSMOS constellations will be added into the game gradually, next in line are the Gallente and Amarr versions, then we move on to the 'noob' areas, and after that a set of 0.0 constellations. The current ones are 'mid-level', i.e. situated in 0.5ish space and mostly level 2-3.
- COSMOS missions are intended to be more storyline oriented than the old generic missions you're used to. Them being once-per-character and hard-coded into a specific area helps us to make them more storyline oriented.
- The current COSMOS constellations are Okkelen (Caldari) and Ani (Minmatar). You might find an occasional 'agent in space' outside of these constellations however but that would be fairly rare, most of them are located in the official COSMOS areas.
- Each COSMOS agent (other than the mini-profession ones) has a sequence of missions, which range from 2-5, usually 3.
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Therem Harth
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Posted - 2005.07.05 23:48:00 -
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Zrakor,
is there (or will there be?) any how-to document explaining the uses of Analyzers/Codebreakers?
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2005.07.05 23:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Therem Harth
Zrakor,
is there (or will there be?) any how-to document explaining the uses of Analyzers/Codebreakers?
I'll ask the mini-profession people when I get back to work tomorrow.
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MiloMorai
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Posted - 2005.07.06 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Therem Harth
Zrakor,
is there (or will there be?) any how-to document explaining the uses of Analyzers/Codebreakers?
I'll ask the mini-profession people when I get back to work tomorrow.
You.....LEFT.....the.....CCP....offices???!!!????!!!??
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Raven Dru
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Posted - 2005.07.06 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: MiloMorai
Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Therem Harth
Zrakor,
is there (or will there be?) any how-to document explaining the uses of Analyzers/Codebreakers?
I'll ask the mini-profession people when I get back to work tomorrow.
You.....LEFT.....the.....CCP....offices???!!!????!!!??
I think its more likely he ESCAPED 
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Sennen
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Posted - 2005.07.06 02:31:00 -
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I don't know if they are any were else but their are NO mini-profession agents in any of the systems in Ani. Their are also no Hacking or Archeology skill books being sold in metropolis.
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.07.06 02:58:00 -
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Quote:
- What you need to talk to these COSMOS agents is standing. They currently use the same standing formula as the old agents you're used to. COSMOS agents also give standing, as the once-per-character mission sequences are considered 'important' and therefore give a nice faction standing boost.
maybe nice to some to others this is a knightmare faction boost also equels faction loss whuch sucks for anyoen who wants to travel.
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pardux
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Posted - 2005.07.06 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: pardux on 06/07/2005 03:18:21
 i just want to warn people about some of the npc's 1x 60k named angel cruiser tanked my vagabond(5x650mm II) for over 5min it boosted 75% shield and 25% armor every 20-30 sec o_O
\o/ i got a head in a glass thingie from minmatar cruiser also o_O very strange place.
and the nebulas = NICE! many of the missions are bugged i think... tried one ;/
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Matrix Aran
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Posted - 2005.07.06 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Dru
Originally by: MiloMorai
Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Therem Harth
Zrakor,
is there (or will there be?) any how-to document explaining the uses of Analyzers/Codebreakers?
I'll ask the mini-profession people when I get back to work tomorrow.
You.....LEFT.....the.....CCP....offices???!!!????!!!??
I think its more likely he ESCAPED
Someone get him back in the cage. He isn't allowed out until after he faces the wrath of ****ed off raven users.
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2005.07.06 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: pardux
Edited by: pardux on 06/07/2005 03:18:21
i just want to warn people about some of the npc's 1x 60k named angel cruiser tanked my vagabond(5x650mm II) for over 5min it boosted 75% shield and 25% armor every 20-30 sec o_O
\o/ i got a head in a glass thingie from minmatar cruiser also o_O very strange place.
and the nebulas = NICE! many of the missions are bugged i think... tried one ;/
Hmm they were all tested before they went live. Could you submit a bug report with any problems you find? Also note that most of the kill missions do not give out bookmarks (by design), because they use static respawning spawns as their targets (not an agent mission spawned dungeon).
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2005.07.06 10:50:00 -
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Thanks for the replies Zrakor.
...and am i'm right in thinking the Caldari constellations have 'level 3'-ish mission-difficulty kind-of-thing? Becasue that named angel guy sounds NASTY 
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.07.06 10:56:00 -
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Yes, some of the rats were very tough. And this is a good thing! Please dont change it, we ran it in a group and it was great fun.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2005.07.06 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Laocoon
Thanks for the replies Zrakor.
...and am i'm right in thinking the Caldari constellations have 'level 3'-ish mission-difficulty kind-of-thing? Becasue that named angel guy sounds NASTY
Well there are some level 4s in there as well. And we were a bit liberal in terms of difficulty as they are once-per-character, these missions aren't intended to be farmed like the generic missions.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.07.06 11:10:00 -
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I hope that they wont get reduced in difficuly if people start moaning alot.
There are too many NPC things in EVE that are far too easy at the moment. Its nice to have a good challenge.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.07.06 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sennen
I don't know if they are any were else but their are NO mini-profession agents in any of the systems in Ani.
We met some agents last night in Ani who insisted on these skills before setting us to work so I reckon you must have missed them. |
Talisman
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Posted - 2005.07.06 11:59:00 -
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Regarding the mini-profession stuff: The agents for this are in, you can find them around the agent sites. You can recognize these missions in that they mention that you need to have some archaeological or hacking knowledge.
Anyway, I plan to post a dev-blog about the mini-professions tomorrow or Friday, stay tuned for that if you want more information.
Oh, and the mini-professions skills should be available for purchase on the market once TQ is back up - in all the craziness in getting this patch out we forgot to put a price on the skills  The price is 1.000.000 ISK for each. |
Zoon
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Posted - 2005.07.06 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Talisman
Oh, and the mini-professions skills should be available for purchase on the market once TQ is back up - in all the craziness in getting this patch out we forgot to put a price on the skills The price is 1.000.000 ISK for each.
We forgive ya Talisman, there was a lot to do in this patch
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Jubeli
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Posted - 2005.07.06 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
Edited by: Zrakor on 05/07/2005 23:33:29
- COSMOS uses 'agents in space'. Basically these agents are located in space, usually at agent sites. There are currently 2 COSMOS constellations available, 1 in Minmatar space and one in Caldari..
Yay for Caldari and Minmatar, finally lovely devs that don't look at the vain Gallente or the high-headed Amarr
Whooops.. dev..was..amarr...did i just call him high headed.. eh.. hmm... I'll be going now, and thanks for the Minnie love :) even slaves need attention I guess... great job!
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Onmarr Shan
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Posted - 2005.07.06 13:21:00 -
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Do you need the archaeology and hacking skills to do these missions? How tough are the level 2 ones? I've heard that you can only take frigs and destroyers into the level 2 missions, anyone got any more info on this?
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.07.06 13:36:00 -
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Some of the deadspace areas are frig and destroyer only, some others would let in assualt frigs but not cruisers, others would let in everything up to HAC. I think its just a case of suck it and see.
I love the multiple branches within each deadspace area (i.e. multiple acceleration gates taking you to different arenas).
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Raven Dru
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Posted - 2005.07.06 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Raven Dru on 06/07/2005 13:53:47
I took on one of these missions in the minnie one but i cant for the life of me find the entrance gateway even though i see it on scanner, is this a case of needing to probe? i've never done it tbh, will a probe find what i need as im stuck like a pig in mud 
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iloveminmatars
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Dru
Edited by: Raven Dru on 06/07/2005 13:53:47
I took on one of these missions in the minnie one but i cant for the life of me find the entrance gateway even though i see it on scanner, is this a case of needing to probe? i've never done it tbh, will a probe find what i need as im stuck like a pig in mud
probes work... but some gates need hacker something id's o_O
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true sight
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:23:00 -
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i took one mission to recover some artifacts... he didnt meantion a ship restriction, so when my assault frigate got to the jump gate, it wouldnt let me through  will i be able to ask for this mission again from him, or have i basically ruined my chance?
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ElricUK
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: ElricUK on 06/07/2005 16:18:26
yeah I was just wondering that. If they are one shot only, if u fail one for some rason can u attempt it again at a later date?
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Talisman
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:17:00 -
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All the COSMOS missions except the mini-profession missions are set one-completion-per-character. So if you fail (for whatever reason) you should be able to try again. If not, that is a bug and should be reported.
And before you ask, all the agents that give out mini-profession mission (there are 14 in all) have only 1 mission each, but you can complete them again and again.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:51:00 -
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Very cool.
Cant't wait for that blog, gonna skill up on those missiles in the meanwhile. 
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Merdekka Radaen
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:34:00 -
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My big problem with these COSMOS missions is that the spawn rate on some of the rats is waaaaaaaay out of whack. I don't know if they have the same problem down in Ani, but as far as Okkelen is concerned finding what you need to complete a mission is often nigh on impossible. For example, some of the early missions ask for such things as:
Nugoeihuvi Dogtags
Propel Dynamics Dogtags
Wiyrkomi Rifles
Encoded Lai Dai Reports
But the NPC's that drop them spawn so hilariously infrequently that it would be hard for just ONE guy to collect enough to complete a mission, let alone the 50+ who are currently trying, and this is just in one complex, the Contested Lai Dai Refinery in Airmia. Only one part of that complex spawns NPC's at a sensible rate, and that's the Guristas Spy Outpost. It's even maybe a little TOO fast, but better to have too many than zero.
These missions are fresh and interesting and fun for newcomers, with some interesting rewards and some nice standings increases, but please PLEASE increase the spawn rate of the NPC's that drop the mission completion goods, it is absolutely inadequate as it stands.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Winterblink on 06/07/2005 17:54:19
Nevermind, I can't read.
Christ... more coffee please.
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