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sham
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Posted - 2003.07.13 01:26:00 -
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hello
i am a miner/trader/manufactur and whatever else i can find that dont mean combat and rarely leave empire space if i dont need to. and sure it is good for me that pirates have been banned from empire space means i can do my traderun/mining witout fear so should be happy
i have as much combatskill so a noob could probably kill me in a frig if i used a battleship. i am sorry if if i have been rather long witout coming to the point but want you to understand what i am and come from.
every profession has it risk and i want the pirate back in empire space sure they are pest but they are a part of gameplay once mo0 almost destroyed my indy when i was on my way back with no weapon or cargo.anothet time they destroyed my cruiser witch i had recently bought for all my money making me broke.
but that is a part of the game the risk of running into one of them. i love this game and hope to be able to stay for a long time but if i wanted to play a sissyplay witout (risk/fun?) i would have bought sims online!!!! |
Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.07.13 01:44:00 -
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Hey there.
A lot of your statement may be true, but I don't think the Mo0 version of 'piracy' was what CCP and (guessing here) probably most other players had in mind.
It sorta is akin to bandits hanging around every urban street corner jacking people at stop lights.. might happen on the terrible side of town, but not all over the place. They'd be met with swift police reprisals, in most cases.
I do think, however, that the "pirate ban" was a little TOO far over the top.
Edited by: Vacuole on 13/07/2003 05:39:53
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sham
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Posted - 2003.07.13 01:48:00 -
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well only used mo0 as a example becuse that the pirate org that i have meet that have shoot on me.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2003.07.13 03:14:00 -
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"It sorta is akin to bandits hanging around every urban street corner.."
We rarely blockaded more than one system out of over 5000, hardly as you describe.
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mmbma
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Posted - 2003.07.13 05:34:00 -
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BUMP for Vacue.. hehe
Lord zap... i heard you left already...wanna sell your account on ebay? hehe, could be funny
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.07.13 05:42:00 -
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Lard Zap:
between Mo0 and the rest, it was getting sorta like my analogy. And as you guys often point-out, much of the Eve universe is empty and so its useless.
But ya, my example was a hyperbole, to make a point.
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Sabercat
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Posted - 2003.07.13 05:44:00 -
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I agree with ya Sham, Having pirates like MOo in game makes it a lot more fun to play. Whats the point in playing a game like this with out risk? Hope CCP does something to help the pirate end of this game out cause its starting to suck for them.
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.07.13 07:37:00 -
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I am sure m0o provided some much needed content in the game, which ccp has failed to implement. The content we provide, is more riskier than what ccp and thier agent missions would contain, however, I think people atleast had some fun. I know many polaris/gms came to check out our blockades. They have only nerfed the only content providing corp with the empire patch.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2003.07.13 10:15:00 -
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I gotta agree, even the wild podding on the mara gate was better than being able to move millions worth of BPs aound in a shuttle while AFK.
I was making and selling a whole load of gear in Nonni just two jumps from the blockade, I only got podded once ;).
Even 0.0 space is safe these days, as long as you look out for the one or two systems where lots of ships are geting destroyed.
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Minx
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Posted - 2003.07.13 11:16:00 -
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Ywev what you were doing was not adding content, as someone who operates in the lonetrek region your actions were never viewed as 'content', it was (and still is) viewed as a bunch idiots deciding to use their ganked up megadamage equipment to cut the region in half. All you did was annoy the hell out of myself and alot of others.
Do NOT try and assert that you added ANYTHING constructive to the game, all you were doing was harming it
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.07.13 14:28:00 -
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Ywev what you were doing was not adding content, as someone who operates in the lonetrek region your actions were never viewed as 'content', it was (and still is) viewed as a bunch idiots deciding to use their ganked up megadamage equipment to cut the region in half. All you did was annoy the hell out of myself and alot of others.
Do NOT try and assert that you added ANYTHING constructive to the game, all you were doing was harming it
1 word
Carebear
So, now with nothing stopping the flow of isk via trades and mining the game is going to goto ****. Everyone has copies of bships now, The price is going to plumet down to cost, just like cruisers did. So your saying you have no 650 'scouts'? I bet you do, or your a miner. There is no content in eve, and if you fear going into a particalur part of space, I call that content. There is a reason you didn't go there or maybe you did. Maybe to explore. However, I can tell you got pod'd. Quit whining, eve is supposed to be pvp.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.07.13 14:34:00 -
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"1 word
Carebear"
1 word...
...****head
"Trust No One" |
Ywev
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Posted - 2003.07.13 14:35:00 -
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I see you take the carebear name to heart, Fitting I think, I think the new carebear barbie comes out today, you should go buy it or did it come with your eve box?
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.07.13 14:41:00 -
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"I see you take the carebear name to heart, Fitting I think, I think the new carebear barbie comes out today, you should go buy it or did it come with your eve box?"
I throw "griefer" around simply to offset the *******s who throw "carebear" around when someone thinks that the game should not be a FPS.
So whenever you are here to flame with that word, I need to be here to balance it out. I'm just trying to help CCP fix the problems in this game ;)
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.13 14:47:00 -
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"I'm just trying to help CCP fix the problems in this game ;)"
y'are one of the problems in this game, matey.
Shame y'don't realise it, ehehehe!
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.07.13 14:49:00 -
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"y'are one of the problems in this game, matey.
Shame y'don't realise it, ehehehe!"
Again ScrapDog, you got the whole opinion thingy messed up in ur head boy ;)
Go away son, ya bother me
"Trust No One" |
Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.13 14:52:00 -
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Nope. And y'suck.
ehehehe!
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.07.13 14:58:00 -
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Well, thx for the freindly banter JunkYardBoy, but I have RL things to attend to, cya.
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TGIF
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Posted - 2003.07.13 15:26:00 -
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Whitedwarf, you have my 100% support. You guys where harming the game more than you will ever realize.
You podded new started players, who therefor didnt renew their accounts after their trail period. Why would they? Its not fun to be pked as noobie, not beeing able to do anything back, not even running. Would you as noob say: Woa that dude was in his nice fancy battleship shooting the crap out of my velator! What a cool dude he is! What fun!
Btw, if you guys want to be podded so much, i can look on the map and tell you guys where these guys are at... Just as simple... nutheads
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.13 15:34:00 -
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"You podded new started players, who therefor didnt renew their accounts after their trail period. Why would they? Its not fun to be pked as noobie, not beeing able to do anything back, not even running. Would you as noob say: Woa that dude was in his nice fancy battleship shooting the crap out of my velator! What a cool dude he is! What fun!
ehehehe! y'been there, ain'tcha? ain'tcha?
Scrapyard Jack was once blowed up by a big ol' Thorax as a noob. Scrapyard Jack didn't whine like a wee 'un an' quit.
Scrapyard Jack thought to 'imself .. "nice ship, ain't it Jack? that it is, Jack. One day we could own one o'those. Y'think so, Jack? Yes, Jack, we do, ehehehe!"
An' now we do. ehehehe!
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Athren Soulsteal
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Posted - 2003.07.13 15:39:00 -
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And yet another badly veiled attemp by grieferbears pass of as a post.
1: PKers add nothing new or of value to the game. There was all ready NPC pirates at the gates. Most were removed because they added no value to the gameplay, neither did moo.
2: PKers did not add excitement to the game. If you think that getting killed in under 4 seconds (before you can even gain control of your ship) is exciting then you need help. (whips are bad... Mmmkay)
3: PKers are not Pirates. No matter how many times you try and claim it, PKing is not pirating. This is like Pepe La Pue claming to be a cat, it will never be true becuse the stench always give you away.
4: You have to except responsibilty for your actions.
Scrapyard, no third person?
I mean, you out of character. Though we are usally on the oppisite side of the fence on things I often enjoy you humor. (dilevery)
Oh.. I never inhaled.
Edited by: Athren Soulsteal on 13/07/2003 16:22:29
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.13 15:44:00 -
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Athren Soulsteal...
The abuse of recreational narcotics is no laughing matter. For the sake of yourself, and that of your family, please seek immediate counseling.
You need not be alone in kicking your ***** addiction. Scrapyard Jack is there for you.
Give us a 'ug, come on .. ehehehe!
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.07.13 15:55:00 -
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<< 2: PKers did not add excitement to the game. If you think that getting killed in under 4 seconds (before you can even gain control of your ship) is exciting then you need help. (whips are bad... Mmmkay) >>
Running head first into a brick wall is bad for you skull, Mmmkay? And that's exactly what most of of you did. You knew m0o was in Mara/Passari, but you went anyways. You knew their ships did tremendous damage, but you went in industrials with little thought to speed or defense. You knew what gate they were at, but you still approached the gate from the same direction every single time.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Aldamar
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:34:00 -
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mOo did not bother me before and would not bother me in the least if things were put back the way they were before as far as pirates/jumpgates and such are concerned.
I have played this game since a few days after release and have never ran into any mOo members and have traveled all over the Lontreck area and out into the 0.0 spaces connected.
People Just have to learn to use the map features to see ship/pod kills in last 24 hours and then avoid them. I have never been stopped at any jumpgates nor have I lost a ship. In fact, the only time I have been shot at was by some guy in 1.0 space and the cops showed up and chased him away.
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Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2003.07.13 16:54:00 -
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This is stupid and so are most of the posters in this thread. Although I don't agree with everything Ywev and Lord Zap said, neither one of them made a personal attack and anyone. Why then is the only way for you "non-pvpers" to respond is with profanity and personal attacks? These PC Pirate post are the reason this game is going to hell not M0o.
When the Devs look at the forums as see 100 posts whining about M0o everyother day they start nerfing. Trouble is that the nerfs don't hurt M0o they only hurt the rest of us.
I DO NOT agree with the pointless podding that M0o members have been known to do. There should be something done about that, but not really sure CCP has the programming capacity to do it. Problems is that when pirates started letting newbie frigates thru, people created newbie alts, loaded them up with BPs and tried to run blockades.
Instead you should have gathered allies and broke the blockade. Pod Lord Zap and the rest 3 or 4 times trust me he can't keep replacing those Battleships and or Crusiers forever. Especailly since the is a shortage of Megacyte now, thanks to you all whining about you can't get it and PC Pirates can.
My corp only has 3 people in it, we operate right next door to M0o headquarters. I declared war on them 2 weeks ago. Will I lose if they decide to come after me, probably, but you know what that is part of the game. I see Lord Zap almost everyday, along with Molly and a few others. Guess what, they don't bother me and I don't bother them. When I come across one of thier blockade I either run, pay, or fight, period.
M0o and other PC Pirates and Mega Corps would not be as powerful as they are if CCP had not screwed up balancing weapons and modules. Sad part is that now Hvy Mod Beams are so rare as to be non-exsistant, but M0o still has thiers. An if not for you carebears those of us brave/smart enough to go out in Non-Empire space could find some. Instead I been in non-empire space for a week and can't even find more then 2-3 30K+ NPC pirate cruisers a day.
THIS IS A PvP GAME, IF YOU DON'T LIKE PvP GO PLAY EARTH AND BEYOND, PERIOD. STOP REQUESTING THAT A GAME THAT STATES ON THE BOX THAT IT'S PvP BE TURNED INTO A NON-PvP GAME.
Week after week, day after day, you carebears come and post how you going to quit if CCP doesn't change this or that. Just quit, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.
If you don't like what I got to say, don't sit here and call me names. Come to Danera in the Khaind region and look me up. I will be happy to pod a few times myself so you can go ahead and quit. Then the rest of us can get back to have a game that presents a challenge.
last but not least for the PC Pirates, you all are not helping the situation by taking advantage of programming and content errors on the part of CCP. M0o whether you are cheating or not, whether you feel you have done nothing wrong or not, the carebears out number the serious players and bottomline money talks. If you keep harrassing (podding for no point at all) then CCP is going to go with the majority and pretty soon you will be the one leaving because they going to have Concord hunting you down.
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
Maarek Steele
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:21:00 -
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See, m0o is the only example I ever hear of. Do you guys really think they are the only pirate corps out there? I doubt that. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of people whining about m0o just jumped on a bandwagon. Just going by numbers alone, when m0o blockaded mara/passari gates less than 1 percent of the server population online at the time was shotdown over a period of 24 hours. I'd wager a good sum that many of the kills were repeat 'customers', doesn't speak too highly of their intelligence. Also, its an established fact that less than 5%, closer to 3%, of a games actual population even browse the boards, much less post, and then we have something phenomenal:
We are supposed to believe that out of a fraction of a percent of the population that all of them banded together after being podded by m0o and came on the boards and whined?
Sorry, but you're all liars. I could very easily pick out those who post that were actually podded by m0o and those who just jumped on the bandwagon. In this thread alone, theres maybe 2 people who had any type of encounter with m0o, and I can tell one of them kept launching and going to the gate just because he's bullheaded and foolish.
I know from experience that a lot of 'noobs' killed are anything but, most of them are either second account spies, alts running BPs, or some combination thereof.
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Athren Soulsteal
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Posted - 2003.07.13 17:57:00 -
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[See, m0o is the only example I ever hear of]
Tis is actually a feather in your cap. The reasion the moo is used is because they are a prime example of whats wrong, not because they are the only PC pirates in the game but becuse they are the only PKers (that i have ever heard of).
I have been podkilled 2 times by 2 diffrent Moo. Both times were undocking from a base only to have the black screen clear to see my new clone. (Killed in 2 shots in my crusers)
On other hand I fight 6 diffrent pirate groups reagulary including the gang. Those are fights, so I know the diffrence between PC pirates and PKers.
Pkers, add nothing to this game.
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sham
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Posted - 2003.07.13 18:28:00 -
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well after having used the lat day to see on responses i can see 2 kind of people
catagory 1 the flaming you like to flame harass the other side as much as possible go against personal attack and generally write whatever on your brainless mind
2 the carebee or what ever they are called. the ones shouting please dont let the evil pirate kill me please i want to live i want to live.i can recommend sims online to you havent play it myself but seem to be your kind of game.
i uses mo0 as a example becuse it it the pirate corp everybody has heard of. and if they killed noobs well that is bad. but i follow this game before it was launch and for my understading this should not be another sissy game with big part protected but a game for the hardcore gamer.
now i got enought fighting skill to maybe take out a couple of 3k pirates but still i want the pirate back it is a part of game sure you dont like them they are a pain either kill you or force you to pay. but it is a part of game and nothing to be upset for if you dont like it if you wish to live witout fear of evil pirates that kill you go play sims online let your little sims live buy them pet or whatever(i dont really follow the sims line of game)and leave the game to the people that want to play it as it should be played. now i dont say let the pirate into 1.0 system the noob need some protection but say 0.7 or something. and sure empire space may be a small place in the eve universe but it contain over 90% of the players and the pirate has the right to make a profit to even if you secretly wish the will all die a horrible and painfull dead hehe :)
but they are as much a part of the game as traders/miners/manufacturer and should have the same right as everyone else
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.07.13 21:11:00 -
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"but they are as much a part of the game as traders/miners/manufacturer and should have the same right as everyone else"
Wrong, criminals give up all thier rights when they take actions such as m0o. Just like any normal civilized society.
I can't see how letting them******and pillage empire space makes any sense at all.
For those of you who want more "excitement", goto non-empire space and parade around in front of the gate campers out there.
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