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Stilgard
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:02:00 -
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I do not know if i ll continu with this game. The nerf of missile has killed me.
I ll take my descision within 2 months.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:04:00 -
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In 2 months you can have the skills so you will own even harder than before. Did you read the patch notes at all? -
"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Peter Stuyvesant
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:05:00 -
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Thanks for sharing.
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:06:00 -
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...Please just go. Now.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:13:00 -
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can i have your stuff?
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Blood Ghost
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:18:00 -
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lol , what was the real point in this post? Do you want support? The patch info has been released AGES ago, why did'nt you prepare. Even then, a week max to get some turrets skills? Please don't complain.
THIS PATCH ROCKS!
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Corto Maltese
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:19:00 -
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/me hugs Stilgard.
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:23:00 -
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Leave so I can have your stuff. -----------------------------------------------
CANADIAN |

Abbadonuk
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino In 2 months you can have the skills so you will own even harder than before. Did you read the patch notes at all?
That depends on what he likes to do in this game. Lets assume he is a mision runner and like to play solo for one reason or another. In which case no matter how many months he spends training missiles he will not be able to solo missions in a raven with anthing like the ease he could in any other races BS.
The fact that BS sized missile launchers cannot do damge to fast frigs and intys makes mixed rat spawns very difficult to deal with. Almost any other races BS can fit 6 of their main weapons and 2 smaller missile launchers to take care of close frigs "at range their main weapons kill frigs and intys in one volley". Why do they fit small launchers rather than small turrets? Because they are better for shooting frigs with.
A raven pilot does not have this luxury, he needs to fit 6 BS sized launchers in order to kill BS sized rats and that means he needs to rely on small turrets to deal with frigs and intys at any range. Now to make those effective he needs to nerf his tank by fitting webber and target painter.
This situation might be funny to some turret users but it is not balanced. large turrets sniping intys with one volley while a raven cannot do enough damage to break the tank on a frig is a real poke in the eye for the dedicated raven pilot/mission runner.
I suspect we will see lots of apocs, megas and tempests cluttering the empire systems that used to be full of mission running ravens. So its not adapt or die, its learn to fly a BS that is capable of killing all ship types with its main weapons "as well as with drones/secondary weapons" or die. Member of Lunar Dawn
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:27:00 -
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If this killed you, then you were gonna quit anyways. ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Vernichtungsengel
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:32:00 -
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dont let the door hit u on thhe way out?
Vernichtungsengel - 'Angel Of Death'
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Cannedbeef
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:33:00 -
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I was supporting of this patch, untill with 6x Siege, and level 2 in all of the new skill (level 1 in missile velocity) interceptors still tank me. :(
and supposedly ive allready done almost half of the new skills (will never get them all to level 5, thats ridiculous, it means 8.25 million to be effective with Cruise Missiles. And still Turrets will wtfpwn harder.
I know missiles needed a boost, but frankly everyone now requires (at least for me, with VERY high Percep/Willpower and +3 implants) 20 days per million, or 165 days to now be effective. Do I mine for 165 days now or what?
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Cannedbeef
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:34:00 -
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and my crow tanks my friends raven now with AB, with MWD he still hits with 30 with cruise, so its less tankable, but still doable with good gear. thats with 1 in the new skills, level 4 in cruise missile.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:35:00 -
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If you want to play a game which is getting more balanced with every patch, then stay.
If you want a game where everything is handed to you on a plate, then leave.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

DarK
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:43:00 -
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Jesus, I knew this would be a missileWAH topic. Just **** off now and take all your little *****es with you.
1 down, 1000 to go.
BUHUWAH
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Fuazzole
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:54:00 -
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I luv it some how, that missle user's can no longer sleep through even the tuffest situations
Torps hit frigs for poo..... my 425 don't hit at all
raven's have to spare a few high's for cruise i have to leave emty a few high's for a tank
although i hear some one spent 62 heavy's trying to kill 5 0.6 spawn in a ferox,
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Buraken v2
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:56:00 -
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byebyesss
less lagg 4 teh ppl! My Sig:
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
Originally by: TheKiller8 Uh what's stopping you from fitting expanders on a freighter?
No slots?
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Rexy
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:00:00 -
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hmmm feel the love,
and then i hear people say the eve community is deteriorating, well ma'm, its right here 
ps can i have a cookie 
All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :) |

Blitzkrieg
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:04:00 -
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CCP went overboard once more, remember turret nerf? Would be nice to have a way to transfert SP like in WoW and DAOC |

Gilbert Drillerson
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Stilgard I do not know if i ll continu with this game. The nerf of missile has killed me.
I ll take my descision within 2 months.
Train drones, I have used Drones for frig-killing on my apoc and it works just fine. Mission running in Raven has just been a little easyer than with any other ship, now its about even with apoc is my guess.
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Blood Ghost
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake If you want to play a game which is getting more balanced with every patch, then stay.
If you want a game where everything is handed to you on a plate, then leave.
This is what happening and although I fly a raven/scorpion, i agree with it. It used to take 5 days to get the skills for torps which were better then any turret, it now takes 28 (with perception lvl 18) to get them good. This means that instead of zooming in with a raven with sieges, now you have to train, like people with turrets do.
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Stro3der
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:37:00 -
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Aww so what ?? Seiges + torps cant "omgwtfpwned !!" everything lower than a gankageddon or whatever It just means that u have to mix ur setup a little if ur gonna fight anything other than BS's. BS vs BS then seiges + torps can still lay down the hurt, but against other ships then thats where it gets interesting. Bring along a friend or two in cruisers etc and have a bit of backup against ur smaller foes, or drop a module or two and add a smaller variant to deal with them. I understand about the problems faced with NPC fighting, but every patch/nerf/fix has spawned the same kind of comments from players. Everyone will adapt to it after a short while.
Hopefully this will bring about the days of proper mixed fleets ( esp. cruisers being more viable )
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JOSEPHx
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Stilgard I do not know if i ll continu with this game. The nerf of missile has killed me.
I ll take my descision within 2 months.
If u have to ask then you shouldnt be here.
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:25:00 -
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After seeing the topic, stay awhile and create a corp called the Clash! or Give me all your stuff. |

slothe
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni ...Please just go. Now.
signed
Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" lordmix >... i helped a corp m8 pull it off |

Aalekzander Sevvari
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:44:00 -
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Quote: The nerf of missile has killed me.
Yes, please. For the love of God, go. One less Caldari rookie that refuses to load smaller missiles to take on frigates, put drones in their drone bay to take on frigates, and can't accept that their DoT and powergrid problems are now INCREDIBLY similar to the rest of the world.
Welcome to a world without Game Genie.
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Miss Daisey
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cannedbeef I was supporting of this patch, untill with 6x Siege, and level 2 in all of the new skill (level 1 in missile velocity) interceptors still tank me. :(
and supposedly ive allready done almost half of the new skills (will never get them all to level 5, thats ridiculous, it means 8.25 million to be effective with Cruise Missiles. And still Turrets will wtfpwn harder.
I know missiles needed a boost, but frankly everyone now requires (at least for me, with VERY high Percep/Willpower and +3 implants) 20 days per million, or 165 days to now be effective. Do I mine for 165 days now or what?
AWW WAAH I CANT WTFOMFGPWN NETING TAT MOOVS! Seriously, train your skills more and use drones. If I were you, I would use some light/medium drones so they dont get owned by the inties like heavies do. I've never used lights/mediums on an inty myself, but im sure they could break the pilot's fast little toy in a while. To the creator of this thread, WTF is the point of it, just to try to get people to feel sorry for you? Is this a "poor me" scam that i have seen before (they never work by the way). Klubu beybey
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Plim
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:58:00 -
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*Insert generic flame/unconstructive insult here* -----------------
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