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Juggernaut Kell
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:25:00 -
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OK Im a raven user and Im not whinning, in fact, once I train up the additional skills it will be a moot point.
Get over it pansies and adapt or quit.
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Barundar
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:33:00 -
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I am a Raven user too and i did a lvl 4 drone mission yesterday. After i put 2 medium hyprids with antimatter in the remaining high slots i was set for the missions. Had to warp out ones but this was ok. So its still no problem to finish lvl 4 mission.
I was ****ed a little when i found out that i need to get Torps to lvl 5 first to learn the advanced skill for faster fire rate for siege launchers but doesn't matter. One of the new ships is out of my reach anyway for the next 3 month.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:38:00 -
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Too Busy training Tech 2 large lasers to bother with the missile skills atm. Looks like the Raven will be docked for some time to come. Laser ships FTW
Zandramus
Homeless And Clueless
S.A.S
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.07.06 14:59:00 -
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Adv W Upg. and 425's 4tw!
ex P-TMC
If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
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Blacky EVE
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:38:00 -
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I am a Raven User too, but the Patch makes me unlucky. Before Patch, the Raven was the best ship (isnt ok, i know) but after Patch the Raven is the weakest Battleship. I have to go on Apoc to do LV 4 missions and i am very unhappy about it. The Range of Torps is 1/3 and i cant kill CRs with it. I have to fit Heavy Launcher on the raven???? The changes of Missils are VERY HARD, the half of change would be enough.
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Critta
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:47:00 -
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TRAIN YOUR MISSILE SKILLS.
there, I think that just about covers it.
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Blacky EVE
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:53:00 -
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You can train Range an damage, but you cant train so mutch that you can fight CRs only with Torps. See the % you can gain more?
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Corvus Anderran
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Blacky EVE
You can train Range an damage, but you cant train so mutch that you can fight CRs only with Torps. See the % you can gain more?
Torpedoes are heavy, slow moving projectiles designed to hit large, slow moving ships for heavy damage. You want to hit anything that doesn't fit that description, mount cruise missiles.
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Jester87
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:03:00 -
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But comon thats like saying it would hurt more to get hit by a Volkswagen mini than a mack truck... If a Torp hits a frig it should die.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jester87
But comon thats like saying it would hurt more to get hit by a Volkswagen mini than a mack truck... If a Torp hits a frig it should die.
then it should also be uberslow wich it isnt. You cant have everything. So now stop whining.
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Valrandir
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Blacky EVE
I am a Raven User too, but the Patch makes me unlucky. Before Patch, the Raven was the best ship (isnt ok, i know) but after Patch the Raven is the weakest Battleship. I have to go on Apoc to do LV 4 missions and i am very unhappy about it. The Range of Torps is 1/3 and i cant kill CRs with it. I have to fit Heavy Launcher on the raven???? The changes of Missils are VERY HARD, the half of change would be enough.
Raven's being the worst Battleship? It depend on what task. Have you tried some solo BS duel since the patch? Even without the new missile skills, the raven is very great in that area.
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Blacky EVE
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:36:00 -
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I play for Agent run, not for PvP. And for NPCs, the raven is bad, it couldnt be that i shoot with torp or CM on an CR and do 70-90 damage. Its heavy 
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Ayur
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:49:00 -
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Ah but you see, the difference with the mack truck is that it is less accurate. It's the difference between getting your foot run over by a mack truck and getting killed by a volkswagon. Mostly this missle changes force us missle users to fit according to situation. Assault/Cruise + the big mommas. So you lose some damage, but heck, once these skills are done training, missles will be the ultimate sniper ships. 200km? No problem with the range and speed of fully trained missles. Or so I hear, at least.
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Bilfiz
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Posted - 2005.07.06 18:52:00 -
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The missle change is not so bad its just the basic flight times really blow. i mean light missle 2 sec flight time is a joke makes it 10k maybe. totaly useless, yes yes train your skill well i have all missle skilled max pre patch now i got alot of new one's. TOMB need to pull his head out and redo the flight times as so
rockets 5 sec
light 8 sec
heavy 15
cruse 20
torps 30 slow missle need more time
reason i say this is to make it more along the same line as turrets since CCP thinks missle and turrets are the same now so rate of fire needs to be uped alot more. and make it more the ranged weapon it should be. flat out no gun should shoot at a longer range then a missle. that would be balance.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:39:00 -
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Until Raven pilots have the required skills trained to level 3 and above, all posts about missile "nerf" should be auto-locked.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Tadis
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:39:00 -
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Its funny..... I use a Raven for 0.0 ratting.... I havnt actually changed my set up since pre-patch... and what d'yaknow.... it still works!
P.S thats with 400k in missle skills rar!
So dont complain and make do, just train those skills and use ya head... its not hard to adapt to something new :)
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:54:00 -
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TBH the missile users should be counting their blessings regarding T2 launcher implementations and skill tree.
To get a large T2 Laser/Hybrid/Projectile you need to have:
Large [type] at 5
Medium [short/long range type] specializaion at 4
Medium [type] at 5
Small [short/long range type] specializaion at 4
Small [type] at 5
That's a LOT of training, and will only get you 1 type of large, short range (blaster/pulse/auto cannon) or long range (hybrid/beam/artillery).
Missile users *ONLY* have to train 1 weapon type to level to be able to use T2 launchers, so it isn't "that" bad.
Imagine if you had to get Rockets 5 and Rocket Specialization to 4, along with Heavy Missile 5 just to start learning Heavy Missile Specialization ?
If anything it's too easy for the missile people to get proficient again.
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