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Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:09:00 -
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Hi every one from the eve comunity,
I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes
I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.
I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.
I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.
I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.
Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.
Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.
CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.
Take care every one and fly safe.
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Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1080
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:14:00 -
[2] - Quote
sell plex with alt, donate isk to main?
BTW, you're not going to get much sympathy from the general eve community. RMTers should be banned, in my opinion.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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ACE McFACE
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1103
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:15:00 -
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Shipasta wrote:Hi every one from the eve comunity,
I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes
I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.
I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.
I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.
I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.
Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.
Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.
CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.
Take care every one and fly safe.
You're example is so wrong, and even if it was anything like the candy example it was still your conscious decision to buy/eat the ISK/candy (Unless you sleep-buy things on the internet)
Also you can't just buy Plex and say "Look! Im giving you more money! Im a good player!" DUST514 isn't on PC because CCP wants 2 different communities influencing each other, not people tabbing out to give themselves Orbital Strikes. (Also they don't want to cannibalise their existing playerbase) |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1833
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:18:00 -
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This kind of stuff is what makes me proud of CCP. Any other game and this
Shipasta wrote:I have spent $1900 with CCP would have affected the decision making. Well done CCP! and I mean it. "I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave |

Sara Mars
The Scope Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:22:00 -
[5] - Quote
"Take care every one and fly safe."
Try to not let the door hit you on the way out. BTW RMT is bad mmkay, you got cought, Deal with it like a man not like a whinny *****.
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Abrazzar
531
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:22:00 -
[6] - Quote
I know I'm a thief, CCP, but please, don't hack of my hands, I need them to fap. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1470
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:23:00 -
[7] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions.
GO OUTSIDE Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

vyshnegradsky
Organized-Chaos Apocalypse Now.
55
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:23:00 -
[8] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Hi every one from the eve comunity,
I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes
I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.
I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.
I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.
I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.
Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.
Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.
CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.
Take care every one and fly safe.
give me the plex to sell for you and I'll give you the money back. Honest This one's a bit over the edge guys.
Locked for breaking... well, pretty much all the rules.
- CCP Falcon |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
396
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:25:00 -
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Good-bye and good riddance. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |

Skorpynekomimi
392
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:25:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Shipasta wrote:I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. GO OUTSIDE
Much as I hate to agree with a goon...
And it's your own damn fault anyway. Go rat. Or biomass and start afresh. |
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Winchester Steele
A Perfectly Normal Corp.
74
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:27:00 -
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You have a grievance with CCP? Me too. They didn't permaban you for RMTing. No sympathy here. |

Sorlac
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:30:00 -
[12] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:
I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved
All of that good will was used up the second you hit buy now on the RMTers site. The fact they even let you keep your character is imo a great show of good will. Personally I feel they should lock your account and shove your character out of Jita's docks with a huge flashing neon sign attached to your head scrolling "DIRTY RMTER", and have it anchor out about 10k km from the station for about a month as a warning to others. |

Sara Mars
The Scope Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:31:00 -
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Thread locked by "ISD TYPE40" in 3...2...1 for not filing a petition |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:36:00 -
[14] - Quote
Thank you for your honest opinions, I didnt realise that my actions hurt so many. Ive un subebed my account as I feel im not welcom in your comunity.
Thanks every one and fly safe. |

Mc Scam
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:44:00 -
[15] - Quote
Do your newly created chars get insta negative wallet aswell? If no give the plex to a newly created char, find a buyer for plex and private contract it to said buyer. Means you don't even have to pay trade taxes, just a small fee of 10k isk I believe?
Also you tried to cheat CCP by buying isk from someone who's not authorized. CCP already offers that service(PLEX) means this is like buying robbed goods. Think about what is the sentence for knowingly buying illegal robbed goods in your country(can't tell me you didn't know it's illegal, unless your like 12) . They even let you play after all this, if that ain't great 'customer' service I don't know what is.
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
158
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:44:00 -
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Shipasta wrote:Thank you for your honest opinions, I didnt realise that my actions hurt so many. Ive un subebed my account as I feel im not welcom in your comunity.
Thanks every one and fly safe. Bye
Just do what the guy in the first answer said and then contract all your ISK and stuff to me. |

Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
28
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:59:00 -
[17] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
Your actions within EvE have caused me great undue stress! As a result of this said stress, I have been having "performance issues" in bed with my wife.
When I tried to explain to her that it wasn't her fault; that my mind was on Eve at the time, she went "bat-**** crazy" out of control.
I am now looking at a dire situation, most likely headed for divorce...
It's because of RMT people like you that we can't have nice things.... 
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Chortle Chortle
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:05:00 -
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Shipasta wrote:
I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions.
Go home and rethink your life. Specifically: go outside and buy some crash and exotic dancers. |

Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
45
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:07:00 -
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You know, if you started giving people random amounts of isk, we might support your position.
Say 100 million isk worth might get me to say something nice on your behalf on the forums. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby" |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:09:00 -
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Mr. Orange wrote:Shipasta wrote:
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
Your actions within EvE have caused me great undue stress! As a result of this said stress, I have been having "performance issues" in bed with my wife. When I tried to explain to her that it wasn't her fault; that my mind was on Eve at the time, she went "bat-**** crazy" out of control. I am now looking at a dire situation, most likely headed for divorce... It's because of RMT people like you that we can't have nice things.... 
im truly sorry for your preformance issues in bed, may i sugest you seek mediicle adivce. I would hate to hear you broke up your marriage over a video game.
I dont feel I cheated CCP ive given them more than most do. I spent $60 with an isk seller and I spent $1900 with CCP, although you guys blast me its ppl like my self that spend tehre hard earned money on this game that pays for its staf and development. I could of easily paid for plex with my in game income but i chose to paypal my accouts to suport CCP and tehre great work.
I offer a genuine apology and all i get is harsh comments, I dont condone RMT and after experianceing it and knowing its concerquince i would strongly advise you never engauge in it.
on another had i do wish CCP offferd there plex at a lower rate so that it would not be a temtation for other players to engauge in RMT. |
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Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:12:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:You know, if you started giving people random amounts of isk, we might support your position.
Say 100 million isk worth might get me to say something nice on your behalf on the forums.
Ive given billions away in this game but i dont feel buying good responces is what i was looking for. I wanted to hear the comunitys unbiased veiws and to wich mostly negetive i do appreciate that they are honest.
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Xessej
Darqsyde Exploration Limited Mass - Effect
7
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:14:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:RMTers should be banned, in my opinion.
All characters deleted, all assets removed and ip banned would be better. Certainly forum posting privileges should be incumbent on having a positive wallet balance. |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
3001
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:18:00 -
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"I served the community my whole life, but when I brutally murdered someone they tossed me into a cell and threw away the key. How is this right?!"
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Kaseki Suuvatolo
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:21:00 -
[24] - Quote
The money you bought was probably taken from hacked accounts.
Think about that a second and then reconsider if you should have made this silly thread. |

Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
45
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:21:00 -
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Shipasta wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:You know, if you started giving people random amounts of isk, we might support your position.
Say 100 million isk worth might get me to say something nice on your behalf on the forums. Ive given billions away in this game but i dont feel buying good responces is what i was looking for. I wanted to hear the comunitys unbiased veiws and to wich mostly negetive i do appreciate that they are honest.
I don't know. A flashing wallet might make some people legitimately change how they feel about a topic.
Honesty is a fickle thing. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby" |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2150
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:22:00 -
[26] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED. ng brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.
You bought isk, so of course you are 100% responsible. The suggestion that RMT people would hand out free isk just to punish random people is laughable. You did the wrong thing & have paid the price for it, but it sounds like you haven't learned your lesson. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
158
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:27:00 -
[27] - Quote
Shipasta wrote: on another had i do wish CCP offferd there plex at a lower rate so that it would not be a temtation for other players to engauge in RMT.
CCP doesn't sell ISK. They sell game time which you can sell to other players. You practically pay others to play the game and grind ISK for you if you sell a PLEX. So the price of the PLEX is regulated by supply and demand. CCP has no influence on that. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2150
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:30:00 -
[28] - Quote
Karak Terrel wrote:Shipasta wrote: on another had i do wish CCP offferd there plex at a lower rate so that it would not be a temtation for other players to engauge in RMT.
CCP doesn't sell ISK. They sell game time which you can sell to other players. You practically pay others to play the game and grind ISK for you if you sell a PLEX. So the price of the PLEX is regulated by supply and demand. CCP has no influence on that.
Not to mention that offering PLEX at a lower rate would make CCP lose money & isk sellers would just sell lower to compensate. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
311
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:35:00 -
[29] - Quote
CCP policy is quite clear, even if you spent $1900 or a mil their policy was still there, you then bought plex further accepting their policy, now if you disagree with their policy fine, but why for the love of god put it here, you just made another mistake after.that one. My advice to you is don't worry about CCP's game, take a look at your life and ask why things happen to you, and instead of blaming them accept responsibility and don't feel sorry for yourself fix the problem and move on, I'm not jumping you just explaining what is more important then a game. |

Romvex
453
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:43:00 -
[30] - Quote
I was about to ask for your stuff, but it's been soiled by your crimes (a¦á_a¦á) ~ Post With Your Main-á ~ (a¦á_a¦á) |
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
775
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:43:00 -
[31] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Im not the only one that makes mistakes.
True, apparently your spell checker is conspiring against you as well.
EvE Forum Bingo |

Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
181
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:47:00 -
[32] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Hi every one from the eve comunity,
I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes
I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.
I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.
I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.
I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.
Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.
Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.
CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.
Take care every one and fly safe.
CCP is actually very lenient in these matters as opposed to other gaming companies which almost certainly delete your entire account and permaban you. 3 Billion isk fine is a small price to pay. I would suggest you rat it off or start fresh, don't quit and don't do it again. Good Luck. -áVote for Malcanis for CSM8 |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1679
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:49:00 -
[33] - Quote
Be thank full CCP is so kind. If it was me I would have banned your account and used the $1900 to send some RMT to your house.
RMT is of course Real Mean Thugs. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread
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Flakey Foont
227
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:01:00 -
[34] - Quote
A loser is a loser. |

ACE McFACE
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1103
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:08:00 -
[35] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Mr. Orange wrote:Shipasta wrote:
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
Your actions within EvE have caused me great undue stress! As a result of this said stress, I have been having "performance issues" in bed with my wife. When I tried to explain to her that it wasn't her fault; that my mind was on Eve at the time, she went "bat-**** crazy" out of control. I am now looking at a dire situation, most likely headed for divorce... It's because of RMT people like you that we can't have nice things....  im truly sorry for your preformance issues in bed, may i sugest you seek mediicle adivce. I would hate to hear you broke up your marriage over a video game. I dont feel I cheated CCP ive given them more than most do. I spent $60 with an isk seller and I spent $1900 with CCP, although you guys blast me its ppl like my self that spend tehre hard earned money on this game that pays for its staf and development. I could of easily paid for plex with my in game income but i chose to paypal my accouts to suport CCP and tehre great work. I offer a genuine apology and all i get is harsh comments, I dont condone RMT and after experianceing it and knowing its concerquince i would strongly advise you never engauge in it. on another had i do wish CCP offferd there plex at a lower rate so that it would not be a temtation for other players to engauge in RMT. EVE isn't a F2P game, EVERYONE has spent their hard earned money on it, and if they use PLEX then someone had to have bought that off CCP in the first place. You keep trying to tell us how sharing and polite of a player you are, yet you just break the rules you are somehow surprised at the response you get from CCP and the playerbase
DUST514 isn't on PC because CCP wants 2 different communities influencing each other, not people tabbing out to give themselves Orbital Strikes. (Also they don't want to cannibalise their existing playerbase) |

Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
28
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:13:00 -
[36] - Quote
TLDR
'I'm so ******** that I think i think I should get a 'get out of jail free' card as reward for me past loyalty.'
Do not pass go, do not collect 200 plex, and accept the ban as lesson on why playing within the rules is important. I've done some really stupid **** in this game. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13822
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:14:00 -
[37] - Quote
You got away rather lightly IMHO.
Suck it up and Biomass that char. It'll be forever tainted. I have no sympathy for you at all.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Hannah Flex
laissez-faire economics
130
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:14:00 -
[38] - Quote
lolol |

Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
85
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:26:00 -
[39] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:"I served the community my whole life, but when I brutally murdered someone they tossed me into a cell and threw away the key. How is this right?!"
I think this is a bad analogy. There could've been extenuating circumstances which justify the murder you committed. RMT on the other hand, simply jeopardizes CCP's revenue stream which jeopardizes the continued stability of the servers which jeopardizes the stress relief of many many many eve players which in turn could (hypothetically) cause lots of murders.
OP should be tried for Attempted Genocide. C'mon CCP, let us suicide gank the high-sec pub matches in Dust..... |

Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
184
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:40:00 -
[40] - Quote
Here's an interview with a goldseller who explains how he made money selling in-game gold, stole his customers' identities, stole from their bank and credit accounts, etc.
http://youtu.be/Wktdmhn9VP0
I suggest you check all your financial accounts today, change passwords, try to avoid any more damage that can come to you from this experience. CCP's punishment should not be your biggest worry. |
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Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:42:00 -
[41] - Quote
Alaekessa wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:"I served the community my whole life, but when I brutally murdered someone they tossed me into a cell and threw away the key. How is this right?!" I think this is a bad analogy. There could've been extenuating circumstances which justify the murder you committed. RMT on the other hand, simply jeopardizes CCP's revenue stream which jeopardizes the continued stability of the servers which jeopardizes the stress relief of many many many eve players which in turn could (hypothetically) cause lots of murders. OP should be tried for Attempted Genocide.
LOL RMT didnt in this case cause any hurt to CCP more so they will loose the money from my 5 subscriptions and also the monthly plex i buy,
I didnt have enough money in my account to buy 6 plex to sell after plexing 5 accounts with paypal. i was offered isk from a isk seller for an amount that i could afford, I do regret acepting the deal but to be clear that if i didnt buy of this isk seller i still couldnt afford to buy 6 plex off CCP so in turn they still wouldnt of recieved money in that instance.
So infact i have not lost revenue or stollen off CCP and the guy that sold the isk ive no idea how he came to have it but i would assume he generated it playing eve ? so CCP would of gotten paid by him for his subscription would they not? Im not condoneing RMT and what i did was wrong. but your analogy is far from reasonable
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terzho
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
108
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 02:48:00 -
[42] - Quote
You done ****** up boy. |

Abrazzar
533
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:49:00 -
[43] - Quote
Some customers just aren't worth their money. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
46
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 02:50:00 -
[44] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Alaekessa wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:"I served the community my whole life, but when I brutally murdered someone they tossed me into a cell and threw away the key. How is this right?!" I think this is a bad analogy. There could've been extenuating circumstances which justify the murder you committed. RMT on the other hand, simply jeopardizes CCP's revenue stream which jeopardizes the continued stability of the servers which jeopardizes the stress relief of many many many eve players which in turn could (hypothetically) cause lots of murders. OP should be tried for Attempted Genocide. LOL RMT didnt in this case cause any hurt to CCP more so they will loose the money from my 5 subscriptions and also the monthly plex i buy, I didnt have enough money in my account to buy 6 plex to sell after plexing 5 accounts with paypal. i was offered isk from a isk seller for an amount that i could afford, I do regret acepting the deal but to be clear that if i didnt buy of this isk seller i still couldnt afford to buy 6 plex off CCP so in turn they still wouldnt of recieved money in that instance. So infact i have not lost revenue or stollen off CCP and the guy that sold the isk ive no idea how he came to have it but i would assume he generated it playing eve ? so CCP would of gotten paid by him for his subscription would they not? Im not condoneing RMT and what i did was wrong. but your analogy is far from reasonable
Hrm... Question...
Why on earth do you have 5 subscription and still have the need to buy plex and RMT?
I mean people with multiple accounts tend to make billions of isk through Orca/Hulk setups or Planetary Interaction, but yet you claim to have 5 accounts and yet you seem to need a great deal of isk to play.
And people that buy plex to sell for isk tend to PvP and from my experience it is really difficult to PvP more than one account at a time. With that in mind, why would you need 5 accounts. If you are multiboxing 5 accounts and can't make enough isk to buy plex without subscriptions and still have billions left over, you are doing something obviously wrong.
What do you actually do with all those accounts? "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 02:56:00 -
[45] - Quote
sure i make billions with my accounts I also like to spend bilions, I could easily plex all my accounts in game, I choose to paypal my accounts to suport CCP.
I did make a mistake and broke the ELUA and am sorry for this. tho im not a bad person and any one that knows me in game would say im a fair player and generouse and helpfull to other players.
I encourage ppl to play eve becaues its a brilliant game.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6477
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 02:59:00 -
[46] - Quote
explain how using plex doesn't support CCP ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:02:00 -
[47] - Quote
[quote=Andski]explain how using plex doesn't support CCP[/quote
it is entirly possible to self sustain your account without spending a cent. making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6477
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:04:00 -
[48] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP
so tell me what you think happens with the PLEX you buy from CCP and sell in-game ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6477
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:04:00 -
[49] - Quote
if you're naive enough to believe that CCP gives away any significant amount of game time for free you're hilariously wrong ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
46
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Posted - 2013.01.26 03:05:00 -
[50] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:sure i make billions with my accounts I also like to spend bilions, I could easily plex all my accounts in game, I choose to paypal my accounts to suport CCP.
I did make a mistake and broke the ELUA and am sorry for this. tho im not a bad person and any one that knows me in game would say im a fair player and generouse and helpfull to other players.
I encourage ppl to play eve becaues its a brilliant game.
You didn't answer my question. What are you doing on those accounts that require you to spend all that isk?
Are you self destructing frieghters outside of Jita? Flying 1billion isk faction fitted fits into Rancer?
Give us some hard facts about how are you spending all this isk which you apparently must have because you couldn't resist RMTing.
Also, technically because you are buying from an RMT, you are complicit with them and supporting their actions of hacking accounts. So that makes you a bad person because hacking accounts is illegal and immoral. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
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Flakey Foont
227
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:07:00 -
[51] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:[quote=Andski]explain how using plex doesn't support CCP[/quote
it is entirly possible to self sustain your account without spending a cent. making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP
Not what you did though huh? |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2153
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:07:00 -
[52] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:[quote=Andski]explain how using plex doesn't support CCP[/quote
it is entirly possible to self sustain your account without spending a cent. making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP
PLEX aren't seeded on the market, they're bought by players who sell them on the market. Stop trying to justify RMT. You did the wrong thing & got caught. You can only blame yourself. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
28
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:08:00 -
[53] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:[quote=Andski]explain how using plex doesn't support CCP[/quote
it is entirly possible to self sustain your account without spending a cent. making in game isk and buying plex seeded on market by CCP
 |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2153
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:10:00 -
[54] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:sure i make billions with my accounts I also like to spend bilions, I could easily plex all my accounts in game, I choose to paypal my accounts to suport CCP.
I did make a mistake and broke the ELUA and am sorry for this. tho im not a bad person and any one that knows me in game would say im a fair player and generouse and helpfull to other players.
I encourage ppl to play eve becaues its a brilliant game.
Makes billions, spends billions, needs to RMT, doesn't understand that buying PLEX off the market supports CCP regardless. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:10:00 -
[55] - Quote
Captain Tardbar wrote:Shipasta wrote:sure i make billions with my accounts I also like to spend bilions, I could easily plex all my accounts in game, I choose to paypal my accounts to suport CCP.
I did make a mistake and broke the ELUA and am sorry for this. tho im not a bad person and any one that knows me in game would say im a fair player and generouse and helpfull to other players.
I encourage ppl to play eve becaues its a brilliant game.
You didn't answer my question. What are you doing on those accounts that require you to spend all that isk? Are you self destructing frieghters outside of Jita? Flying 1billion isk faction fitted fits into Rancer? Give us some hard facts about how are you spending all this isk which you apparently must have because you couldn't resist RMTing. Also, technically because you are buying from an RMT, you are complicit with them and supporting their actions of hacking accounts. So that makes you a bad person because hacking accounts is illegal and immoral.
I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again. I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of. |

Ayuren Aakiwa
Wyvern Operations
57
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Posted - 2013.01.26 03:12:00 -
[56] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Hi every one from the eve comunity,
I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes
I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.
I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.
I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.
I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.
Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.
Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.
CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.
Take care every one and fly safe.
LMFAO thank you op this made my night a bit more entertaining. Wtf did you expect to happen when you participated in RMT? I also think your attempts at bribing CCP with plex purchases is ******* hilarious. Have a good night/day op, thanks for the laugh. pew pew 24/7 |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2153
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:12:00 -
[57] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again. I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of.
You condone & support RMT every time you buy their isk. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Shipasta wrote:I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again. I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of. You condone & support RMT every time you buy their isk.
I did it once mate.
you make out like i was the one selling isk and makeing a profit from this game, quite the opsisit, i recived isk that went into the eve economy. I didnt use it to plex an account to cheat CCP out of subscription money but to buy ships off players in the market to fly to enjoy the game. |

Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
473
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:20:00 -
[59] - Quote
Why on earth, after legally spending $1900 on eve , would you then risk being banned and punished by spending a measly $60 on RMT???????
LOL Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:22:00 -
[60] - Quote
Peter Raptor wrote:Why on earth, after legally spending $1900 on eve , would you then risk being banned and punished by spending a measly $60 on RMT???????
LOL Temtation i guess at the time in my own veiw i didnt think i was hurting any one or eve, in hind sight it was a poor dicission and im regretfull of it. |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2153
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:27:00 -
[61] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Shipasta wrote:I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again. I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of. You condone & support RMT every time you buy their isk. I did it once mate. you make out like i was the one selling isk and makeing a profit from this game, quite the opsisit, i recived isk that went into the eve economy. I didnt use it to plex an account to cheat CCP out of subscription money but to buy ships off players in the market to fly to enjoy the game.
Doesn't matter whether you did it once or a dozen times, you condoned & supported RMT. You hurt CCP buy giving a 3rd party money for their product & they punished you for it. You are 100% responsible for your actions no matter how you try & twist it around. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

So'Cari
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
9
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:28:00 -
[62] - Quote
Shipasta wrote: I did it once mate.
you make out like i was the one selling isk and makeing a profit from this game, quite the opsisit, i recived isk that went into the eve economy. I didnt use it to plex an account to cheat CCP out of subscription money but to buy ships off players in the market to fly to enjoy the game.
Careful. When you rush your replies you're forgetting to put in the spelling mistakes.
'engauge' was nice though. Hope you're having a fun evening  |

Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
300
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:35:00 -
[63] - Quote
So,
You want CCP to give you back the isk that you bought from an RMT'er?
You claim to have 5 accounts or w/e, you should know by now that you could sell teh plex you bought with the intention of clearing you negative balance on an alt. Or, perhaps you aren't being honest in what you say, and the RMT amount is alot more than what you say, perhaps spread across all your characters?
Sorry about your tough luck. IMO CCP is in the right for not giving you back your RMT'd isk, this seems to be waht you are asking for.
IMO CCP should have just banned all your accounts permanently. |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:35:00 -
[64] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Shipasta wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Shipasta wrote:I completely agree with you that hacking accounts is imorral and bad, And to be clear I do NOT condone or suport RMT. as i stated i made a mistake and have apologized for it and will never engauge in trading with them again. I openly admit i made a mistake to wich i am not proud of. You condone & support RMT every time you buy their isk. I did it once mate. you make out like i was the one selling isk and makeing a profit from this game, quite the opsisit, i recived isk that went into the eve economy. I didnt use it to plex an account to cheat CCP out of subscription money but to buy ships off players in the market to fly to enjoy the game. Doesn't matter whether you did it once or a dozen times, you condoned & supported RMT. You hurt CCP buy giving a 3rd party money for their product & they punished you for it. You are 100% responsible for your actions no matter how you try & twist it around.
You seem intent on making out i condone RMT, as you stated i did at some point trade with an isk seller therefore to your definition i condoned it then and that point in time, To be clear i do not suport that veiw now and would strongly advise any one else thinking about doing it NOT to.
Apologies for my grammer and spelling im awear its not great thanks |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2153
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:38:00 -
[65] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:You seem intent on making out i condone RMT, as you stated i did at some point trade with an isk seller therefore to your definition i condoned it then and that point in time, To be clear i do not suport that veiw now and would strongly advise any one else thinking about doing it NOT to.
Apologies for my grammer and spelling im awear its not great thanks
Tell me how buying isk is not supporting the Real Money Trade. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:41:00 -
[66] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Shipasta wrote:You seem intent on making out i condone RMT, as you stated i did at some point trade with an isk seller therefore to your definition i condoned it then and that point in time, To be clear i do not suport that veiw now and would strongly advise any one else thinking about doing it NOT to.
Apologies for my grammer and spelling im awear its not great thanks Tell me how buying isk is not supporting the Real Money Trade.
I have only traded real money with CCP for plex since that trade with an isk seller. so I suport trading real money with CCP for plex. dose that help you get your head around it?
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2545
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:41:00 -
[67] - Quote
This has been an amusing read.
Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2153
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:45:00 -
[68] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Shipasta wrote:You seem intent on making out i condone RMT, as you stated i did at some point trade with an isk seller therefore to your definition i condoned it then and that point in time, To be clear i do not suport that veiw now and would strongly advise any one else thinking about doing it NOT to.
Apologies for my grammer and spelling im awear its not great thanks Tell me how buying isk is not supporting the Real Money Trade. I have only traded real money with CCP for plex since that trade with an isk seller. so I suport trading real money with CCP for plex. dose that help you get your head around it?
You seem to have a poor understanding of what RMT is & how you supported it by buying dirty isk. Hint: It has nothing to do with purchasing a product from CCP. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2153
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:46:00 -
[69] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:This has been an amusing read.
It's my new favourite thread. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Ryuji Takemiya
Omni Tech Industries Initiative Associates
19
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:49:00 -
[70] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:This has been an amusing read.
It's my new favourite thread.
Has anyone told Shipasta to HTFU yet? That'll be my favorite part.
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Haseo Antares
Corollary Forest Fairytail.
15
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 03:55:00 -
[71] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Hi every one from the eve comunity,
I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes
I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.
I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.
I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.
I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.
Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.
Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.
CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.
Take care every one and fly safe.
Imagine for a moment, that you have been married & loyal (exclusive marriage) for 19 years to the same person; one day you catch your significant other in bed with 6 other people (and farm animals for good measure). Begging for forgiveness, your spouse attempts to assure you that this was the first time he or she has ever cheated on you and that this will never happen again. Assuming that you do forgive your spouse and try to move on; would you force your spouse to regain your trust or do you use math and logic to fix everything?
At any rate 10/10. I have a hard time believing this story. R.I.P VR |

Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
185
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 04:05:00 -
[72] - Quote
Haseo Antares wrote:Imagine for a moment, that you have been married & loyal (exclusive marriage) for 19 years to the same person; one day you catch your significant other in bed with 6 other people (and farm animals for good measure). Begging for forgiveness, your spouse attempts to assure you that this was the first time he or she has ever cheated on you and that this will never happen again. You forgot the part where the spouse says that, really, you are to blame. Then tells all the neighbors how unfair you are. |

Winchester Steele
A Perfectly Normal Corp.
75
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 04:09:00 -
[73] - Quote
@ shipasta the shiptoaster
Your inconsistent responses lead me to believe that you are trolling. If so, well played sir. If not and you really are as dumb as you sound, my condolences. |

Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
45
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 04:32:00 -
[74] - Quote
Shipasta wrote: I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA
Well that wasn't so smart, now was it?
Zero sympathy.
At last I have an example that stupidity hurts. |

Kalanaja
Dog Nation United PNG Associates
30
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 04:54:00 -
[75] - Quote
Good bye...good bye....don't let the door hit you where the Great Makers split you and whatnot. I hope they lock this. And I hope your corp and alliance keel hauls you or tars and feathers you on the way out. |

Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
325
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 05:14:00 -
[76] - Quote
Wow, sounds pretty brutal. I can't quite figure out how to make 3 billion without spending anything (consequence of a negative wallet?).
I think they should cut you some slack. If they don't, I just don't see HOW you can play anymore anyway. It would be like a 300 year mortage ... |

Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
23
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 05:46:00 -
[77] - Quote
If you buy ISK or any virtual game currency, then you are agreeing with, and helping, players that scam, that hack accounts, that bot.
If enough players do that, the game dies.
So what is the point?
Don't buy ISK, it's the same as buying a gold medal in the Olympics.
Totally useless. |

Max Doobie
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
147
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 05:53:00 -
[78] - Quote
Rengerel en Distel wrote:sell plex with alt, donate isk to main?
BTW, you're not going to get much sympathy from the general eve community. RMTers should be banned, in my opinion.
Dude GTFO of here with that crap. You can ALREADY buy isk. CCP didn't do this out of some love for the game or fairness, they did it because they want you to buy isk from THEM, i.e. buy plex then sell.
If you folks hate RMT so much then why do you partake in PLEX???? That's RMT. No matter how you slice it, dice it, flip it; That's using REAL money to buy in game stuff that gives you an advantage over other players. The only thing "wrong" he did was buy from folks not affiliated with CCP not RMTing. |

yer mammy
Derp Inc
33
|
Posted - 2013.01.26 06:00:00 -
[79] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Hi every one from the eve comunity,
I would like to post a public grievance I have with CCP and show how a loyal suporter and customer of this fine game is treated when asking for assistance to rectify his mistakes
I have currnently been punnished for succumbing to the temtation of recieving isk form an isk seller, and I now know that it breachs section 6.B of the ELUA
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
I have offered a sincer apology to CCP and also brought aother 6 PLEX though the proper and sanctioned method provied by CCP so to show I will follow the game rules.
I have then since found that due to my wallet being negitive 3 billion isk I cannot even sell the plex to fix my deficit.
I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions. I feel that a little good will is deserved and asked that they make my wallet to a playable balance so that I may sell the plex and continue to enjoy playing eve.
I was refused this. now I know I have done the wrong thing and the rules were broken but I dont feel 100% responcible. CCP has made a free trade systen that is so easily exploited for RMT and has dont nothing substantial to change this. Its like going to a class roon and handing out candy to kids and then saying DONT EAT THE CANDY OR YOU WILL BE EXPELLED.
Also the isk seller that did the tempting and advertised the isk at a conciderable lower amount then CCP is still playingeve with out concerquince.
Im not the only one that makes mistakes. CCP I have endured many of your mistakes and forgiven them for example the unified inventory being brounght to Tranquility before it was ready with so many bugs that cause endless frustration, the many nerfs of great parts in the game. the ever increasing inflation of the market yet there is no increase of income for the new player base running missions making ships and moduals out of there reach, the captanis quarters that made my client crash every time I entered them many patches ago. Dust being brought to the server without asking what your current player base felt about it.
CCP im only human and I do make mistakes. I have aploagised to you and your player base and shown remorse for my actions and in good will spent another $104.97 on plex to show im willing to play by the rules. If this isnt enough to get a little good will from your company then I feel my time playing EVE online is over.
Take care every one and fly safe.
lol |

Haseo Antares
Corollary Forest Fairytail.
16
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Posted - 2013.01.26 06:06:00 -
[80] - Quote
Max Doobie wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:sell plex with alt, donate isk to main?
BTW, you're not going to get much sympathy from the general eve community. RMTers should be banned, in my opinion.
Dude GTFO of here with that crap. You can ALREADY buy isk. CCP didn't do this out of some love for the game or fairness, they did it because they want you to buy isk from THEM, i.e. buy plex then sell. If you folks hate RMT so much then why do you partake in PLEX???? That's RMT. No matter how you slice it, dice it, flip it; That's using REAL money to buy in game stuff that gives you an advantage over other players. The only thing "wrong" he did was buy from folks not affiliated with CCP not RMTing.
Perhaps this interpretive dance will help you see the light: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOhycSTFa2c R.I.P VR |
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Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
619
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Posted - 2013.01.26 06:15:00 -
[81] - Quote
wow...that face. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
Also, your boobs :o --áCCP Eterne, 2012.11.05 14:50 |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
742
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Posted - 2013.01.26 06:23:00 -
[82] - Quote
Good riddance, you worthless filth.
Go find another game to ruin with RMT, and never come back. Meta-gaming for carebears:
Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. |

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
469
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Posted - 2013.01.26 06:56:00 -
[83] - Quote
So you
-RMT'd isk -Spent $1900 on EVE -Demand preferential treatment
Strike 3 buddy, gtfo. You also need mental help as no healthy person does the above 3 things. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6481
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:33:00 -
[84] - Quote
Max Doobie wrote:Dude GTFO of here with that crap. You can ALREADY buy isk. CCP didn't do this out of some love for the game or fairness, they did it because they want you to buy isk from THEM, i.e. buy plex then sell.
If you folks hate RMT so much then why do you partake in PLEX???? That's RMT. No matter how you slice it, dice it, flip it; That's using REAL money to buy in game stuff that gives you an advantage over other players. The only thing "wrong" he did was buy from folks not affiliated with CCP not RMTing.
He did wrong by buying from people who run bots which, in the long term, put a disproportionate load on the cluster compared to other players, which is adverse to your experience on Tranquility and mine. He did wrong by buying from people who phish account details and steal their ISK and assets to sell to others. He did wrong by buying from people who defraud CCP and other MMO developers by charging back subscription fees after their bot accounts are burned. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1370
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:51:00 -
[85] - Quote
Shipasta wrote: I then looked back over my paypal account and found in the last 18 months I have spent $1900 with CCP on PLEX and subscriptions.
What the hell is wrong with you? |

Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
196
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:53:00 -
[86] - Quote
Read through first few pages, laughed a bit at OP trying to justify and feel CCP should take it further, any character with a negative wallet should not be able to be biomassed.
It's not like we all don't know that RMT is bad, against the rules, and deserves stronger punishment. No warnings, no 2nd chances, tough luck.
I'm getting so many mixed messages off the OP, spent $1900 with CCP yet bought some isk, gives billions away.
The character is over 4 years old, yet you didn't realise what kind of response you'd get on the forums after admitting cheating and wanting ccp to go easy on you?
There are options out there, it's not difficult to get yourself out of this situation as people have suggested, 3 bil is 6 plex, if you're that sorry, then buy another 6 plex on an alt char, sell them and transfer the isk and be grateful that CCP don't take these matters more seriously than they do.
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Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
196
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:01:00 -
[87] - Quote
Max Doobie wrote: Dude GTFO of here with that crap. You can ALREADY buy isk. CCP didn't do this out of some love for the game or fairness, they did it because they want you to buy isk from THEM, i.e. buy plex then sell.
If you folks hate RMT so much then why do you partake in PLEX???? That's RMT. No matter how you slice it, dice it, flip it; That's using REAL money to buy in game stuff that gives you an advantage over other players. The only thing "wrong" he did was buy from folks who hack accounts, bot, and generally don't give a crap about the eve community as long as they get their real life bucks.
FYP
Buying a plex to sell is not the same as buying isk, the end result is the same temporarily but the method is quite different.
CCP sanction buying plex to sell for isk, the money goes back to CCP even if you buy the GTCs from an outside source like shattered crystal or one of the many others, and since you can choose to either extend your game play by another 30 days or sell it for someone else to extend their game play for another 30 days, CCP are essentially only selling the 30 day game play extension, they're not giving you the isk.
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Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:05:00 -
[88] - Quote
the responces in this forum i find quite amusing,
most say ban a player for a first time offence even after he has spent a great deal with the company and the rule he broke literaly hurt no one.
lol even had some one question my mental helth. haha like that is a valid point you are not qualified to make such a call. most are at me like i researched where the isk cam from., where an isk seller gets there isk isnt my concern
i dont go reaserching where my orange juice is made tho if i did id prob find its squeezed by child labour in a third world contry, not something i take into concidereation, the veiws of ppl here to do with RMT leads me to believe ppl on these forums have more to do with them than they let on.
half the ppl slandering me proberbly have buoght isk from rmters at some point and are of a harsh veiw to make out three againts it.
you guys make me sick to treat a fellow player like this.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
943
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:07:00 -
[89] - Quote
If you can afford to spend $1900 on the game, then buying illegal isk just seems like greed on your part.
Take your punishment like a man/woman and stop complaining. This is not a signature. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2156
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:09:00 -
[90] - Quote
Max Doobie wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:sell plex with alt, donate isk to main?
BTW, you're not going to get much sympathy from the general eve community. RMTers should be banned, in my opinion.
Dude GTFO of here with that crap. You can ALREADY buy isk. CCP didn't do this out of some love for the game or fairness, they did it because they want you to buy isk from THEM, i.e. buy plex then sell. If you folks hate RMT so much then why do you partake in PLEX???? That's RMT. No matter how you slice it, dice it, flip it; That's using REAL money to buy in game stuff that gives you an advantage over other players. The only thing "wrong" he did was buy from folks not affiliated with CCP not RMTing.
Buying PLEX is not buying isk. You can trade PLEX for isk on the market if you choose but that's a seperate transaction altogether & not related to the purchasing of PLEX.
The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
943
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:12:00 -
[91] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Shipasta wrote:Im not the only one that makes mistakes. True, apparently your spell checker is conspiring against you as well.
Eve has a spell checker? This is not a signature. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6482
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:14:00 -
[92] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:most are at me like i researched where the isk cam from., where an isk seller gets there isk isnt my concern
i dont go reaserching where my orange juice is made tho if i did id prob find its squeezed by child labour in a third world contry, not something i take into concidereation, the veiws of ppl here to do with RMT leads me to believe ppl on these forums have more to do with them than they let on.
So you simply don't care how the people you did business with, directly or indirectly, conduct operations that are detrimental to the game as a whole? Since you're leaving, I don't want your stuff; it's probably tainted by your RMTing. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1373
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:14:00 -
[93] - Quote
No I mean really, you shouldn't be ashamed of buying isk. Who cares, you sometimes get one over on a skygod I guess. You should be ashamed for spending $1900 in plex. |

Brutus King
Hooligans Of War
29
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:16:00 -
[94] - Quote
Very amusing post. Goodbye, you won't be missed. |

Shipasta
Kenshin. Corcoran State
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:17:00 -
[95] - Quote
Brutus King wrote:Very amusing post. Goodbye, you won't be missed.
I wont miss you either :) |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2157
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:22:00 -
[96] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:the responces in this forum i find quite amusing,
most say ban a player for a first time offence even after he has spent a great deal with the company and the rule he broke literaly hurt no one.
Actually the rule you broke does hurt people. See this lovingly crafted post:
Andski wrote:He did wrong by buying from people who run bots which, in the long term, put a disproportionate load on the cluster compared to other players, which is adverse to your experience on Tranquility and mine. He did wrong by buying from people who phish account details and steal their ISK and assets to sell to others. He did wrong by buying from people who defraud CCP and other MMO developers by charging back subscription fees after their bot accounts are burned.
Shipasta wrote: most are at me like i researched where the isk cam from., where an isk seller gets there isk isnt my concern
Some guy said he would sell you a bunch of isk. It doesn't take research to know it's dodgy, just a tiny amount of common sense.
Shipasta wrote:i dont go reaserching where my orange juice is made tho if i did id prob find its squeezed by child labour in a third world contry, not something i take into concidereation, the veiws of ppl here to do with RMT leads me to believe ppl on these forums have more to do with them than they let on. Fortunately most of us can differentiate between reality & fantasy. It is apparent that you can't. Our views of RMT come from research & knowing how damaging it is to the health of gaming. why would we speak ill of something we were involved in? There's no logic in your assumption.
Shipasta wrote:half the ppl slandering me proberbly have buoght isk from rmters at some point and are of a harsh veiw to make out three againts it.
you guys make me sick to treat a fellow player like this.
I can't speak for others, but I have a harsh view towards RMT because it damages the games I enjoy playing & encourages the sellers to phish for more accounts & supports botting.
I don't consider people like you as a fellow player. You are a scourge to the gaming community & are no better than the people selling the isk.
The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1835
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:25:00 -
[97] - Quote
Shipasta wrote:Mr. Orange wrote:Shipasta wrote:
First off I would like to apologize to the player base for my breach of the ELUA if my actions have caused any harm to you I am truly sorry and I ask of your forgivness for my act,
Your actions within EvE have caused me great undue stress! As a result of this said stress, I have been having "performance issues" in bed with my wife. When I tried to explain to her that it wasn't her fault; that my mind was on Eve at the time, she went "bat-**** crazy" out of control. I am now looking at a dire situation, most likely headed for divorce... It's because of RMT people like you that we can't have nice things....  im truly sorry for your preformance issues in bed, may i sugest you seek mediicle adivce. I would hate to hear you broke up your marriage over a video game. I dont feel I cheated CCP ive given them more than most do. I spent $60 with an isk seller and I spent $1900 with CCP, although you guys blast me its ppl like my self that spend tehre hard earned money on this game that pays for its staf and development. I could of easily paid for plex with my in game income but i chose to paypal my accouts to suport CCP and tehre great work. I offer a genuine apology and all i get is harsh comments, I dont condone RMT and after experianceing it and knowing its concerquince i would strongly advise you never engauge in it. on another had i do wish CCP offferd there plex at a lower rate so that it would not be a temtation for other players to engauge in RMT. Don't get me wrong, you have my sympathy if what you said is true. You already weren't permabanned from what I've read so far, so that's the 'leeway' CCP has given you. The thing is, the moment CCP starts to give 'special treatments' towards people judging by the amount of RL isk they've given to the game instead of viewing it on a bigger scale, that's the moment when the game's utterly screwed like some of those P2Win games out there. CCP is known for being an idealist and respected game developers, I'm just glad that they intend to keep it that way. "I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6484
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:34:00 -
[98] - Quote
Also I don't think harsher penalties for ISK buyers are necessary or even a good idea, since buying ISK and having it sent to hostile FCs, titan pilots and other key members would become a big metagaming tactic.
Imagine every war starting out with the defending side's FCs getting banned until the GMs agree that it was an attempt to remove them from the game long enough for progress to be made. It'd get really dumb, really quick.
In any case, I'm pretty sure that getting the ISK revoked (which generally ends up with a massive negative wallet) is enough to dissuade players from buying ISK in the future. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Solstice Project
T E R R O R I S T S
2658
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:49:00 -
[99] - Quote
"i dont feel 100% responsible." = Whatever i chose to do, at least partly somebody else is to blame too.
You are saying that it wasnt all your own decision.
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Get the **** out! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
360

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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:05:00 -
[100] - Quote
The OP breaks the following rules:
Quote: 5. Ranting is prohibited A rant is a long-winded, redundant post, often filled with angry, non-constructive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and helpful in the development of the game, but rants are disruptive and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise, clear manner and avoid going off on rambling tangents.
10. Warnings and bans are not to be discussed on the forum. Such matters shall remain private between the CCP and the user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through e-mail or private messaging. Likewise, discussions regarding moderator actions are not permitted on the forum. If you have questions regarding a post or thread, please file a petition.
... and much of the rest of the thread breaks one or both these:
Quote: 6.Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another. Text of this nature is not beneficial to the community spirit and will not be tolerated. Corporation, faction and alliance members and other players are cautioned to avoid allowing GÇ£in characterGÇ¥ disputes from becoming "out of character" personal attacks. The game is designed for role-playing and/or portraying a role and it is sometimes easy for tempers to flare when the lines between the virtual world and the real world are crossed. Please keep in-game disputes in the game and off the forum unless it is clearly a mutual, in-character exchange.
20. Post constructively. Negative feedback can be very useful, provided that it is presented in a civil, factual manner. Tell us what you don't like and why and how you feel it could be improved. Posts that are not constructive, insulting or rude may be deleted, no matter how valid the ideas behind them may be.
... so I'm going to go ahead and lock this.
Please note that CCP strives to fairly enforce their rules regardless of who the subject involved is. If you believe that CCP has a policy for preferential treatment, that is a problem, and I encourage you to contact Internal Affairs to rectify the situation. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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