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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Vistilantus on 06/07/2005 21:05:17
here is the mineral requirements for gallente and minnie freighter (at ME0)
Obelisk
Trit 112,077,704
Pyerite 14,900,791
Mex 5,548,972
Iso 806,052
Nocx 237,582
Zyd 37,279
Mega 13,556
Fennir
Trit 107,188,805
Pyerite 14,414,924
Mex 5,418,962
Iso 764,034
Nocx 224,704
Zyd 36,396
Mega 12,729
We will offer a BYOM deal on these ships, cost for building is minerals + 350m
It will take approximately 30 days to build the first few ships.
Thank you,
Please contact me if interested.
P.s: we will be able to offer the first ever service where WE being the BP's to YOUR factories/minerals. If we have to move the minerals, there will be an extra charge.
P.P.s - The BPo's are being researched, in under 5 days they will be at ME10.
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |
Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tenashi on 06/07/2005 21:11:12
so how much in cash as i`m still interrested
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gameforce
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Tenashi
Edited by: Tenashi on 06/07/2005 21:11:12
so how much in cash as i`m still interrested
The minerals + 350m
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:15:00 -
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visti, may i suggest something ?
If you can, why not pick up the minerals with a freighter ?
If the one ordering trusts your corp enough that would cut their time transporting all that crap towards you considerably. Also saves u to move the BPO's everywhere ?
(plus free bump).
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:23:00 -
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Cash price is 1,200,000,000 (1.2bill)
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |
Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:25:00 -
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Magma is pleased to announce it's first customer of a Gallente Freighter.
to one lucky customer. :D
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |
Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: s4mp3r0r
visti, may i suggest something ?
If you can, why not pick up the minerals with a freighter ?
If the one ordering trusts your corp enough that would cut their time transporting all that crap towards you considerably. Also saves u to move the BPO's everywhere ?
(plus free bump).
We will be able to do this in teh future, just not right now 
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |
Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tenashi on 06/07/2005 22:00:13
edited for a more constructive post
just orders 1 and have alot of trust in these people 
also brining the bpo`s to build at the station of ur choice is a service wich will be really valuable for alot of people and not done befor 
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Alvara
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Posted - 2005.07.06 22:05:00 -
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I'd rather buy a set of the BPC's necessary to build one freighter, and manufacture it myself as I get the chance.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.06 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: Tenashi on 06/07/2005 22:12:15
Originally by: Alvara
I'd rather buy a set of the BPC's necessary to build one freighter, and manufacture it myself as I get the chance.
not every one willing to mine for it as isk is easier and less time consumining + no worries, just some waiting as it just takes a crapload of time
edit: that`s me in the abouve case 
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Alvara
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Posted - 2005.07.06 23:07:00 -
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Well my corp badly wants me to get one, so if I had the BPC's I could leverage the corp into mining it all. Where with their offer, I will have to mine it all myself, or buy it off my corp mates/market. I like the first option. ;)
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Kal Zakath
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Posted - 2005.07.07 00:20:00 -
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Quote:
P.P.s - The BPo's are being researched, in under 5 days they will be at ME10.
We have the Obelisk BPO also. Researching material eff. says 6weeks 2days per level w/max skills. How are you getting your prints to ME10 in 6 days?
ME:0 Obelisk takes 15 capital armor plates, 88 capital cargo bays, 55 capital construction parts, and 17 capital propulsion engines. Are the mineral figures you quoted for building those construction components as a total?
I am impressed if you bought all the component bpo's also. That's a major investment at about 1bill+ each. I hope to get some component bpc's or buy components in near future for construction.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.07 00:29:00 -
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Kal Zakath, it`s the components wich will be me10 
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Sadist
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Posted - 2005.07.07 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sadist on 07/07/2005 01:36:13
Please book me for a cash only deal on the Obelisk.
I dont have the huge amount of minerals, and frankly, i dont know how to get them in such a short period of time (and hauling them? blech!)
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
"One Trit to rule them all, One Trit to find them, One Trit to bring them all, and in the veldspar bind them"
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.07 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sadist
Edited by: Sadist on 07/07/2005 01:36:13
Please book me for a cash only deal on the Obelisk.
I dont have the huge amount of minerals, and frankly, i dont know how to get them in such a short period of time (and hauling them? blech!)
Epic going hauling?
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Sadist
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Posted - 2005.07.07 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tenashi
Originally by: Sadist
Edited by: Sadist on 07/07/2005 01:36:13
Please book me for a cash only deal on the Obelisk.
I dont have the huge amount of minerals, and frankly, i dont know how to get them in such a short period of time (and hauling them? blech!)
Epic going hauling?
Nope. Epic. Making. Money.
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
"One Trit to rule them all, One Trit to find them, One Trit to bring them all, and in the veldspar bind them"
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.07.07 04:13:00 -
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im guessing u wont build these in .0 will u ;p?
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MrPops
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Posted - 2005.07.07 04:16:00 -
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WARNING WARNING
People, be advised, BYOM is very risky. A lot of people got ripped off when battleships first came out. If the producer can't mine their own minerals why not sell them the minerals at cost and buy the produced item at cost. That way, you can at least make some money on your minerals if you do get ripped off.
"The human species suffers from a dimensional limitation. They are not able to understand that matter and mind are just one aspect of something more fundamental. We must strive to expa |
Joe
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Posted - 2005.07.07 05:03:00 -
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I'd love a Byom (where you bring the bpo's to my minerals) However, i will require collatoral for the minerals @ 200% of their worth. (200% because obviously you can build it and sell for more than the minerals are worth)
If your interested in this trade please contact me ingame.
Oberon Tech II Sales. |
Airpizza II
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Posted - 2005.07.07 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: MrPops
WARNING WARNING
People, be advised, BYOM is very risky. A lot of people got ripped off when battleships first came out. If the producer can't mine their own minerals why not sell them the minerals at cost and buy the produced item at cost. That way, you can at least make some money on your minerals if you do get ripped off.
I'm certain that bs's were around in beta. So they were always out and there are npc sell orders for them believe it or not.
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Everlyn
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Posted - 2005.07.07 05:42:00 -
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Best to avoid this is that Magma Industries will build theire first freigther of theire own minerals, and than hand the freighter over when getting your minerals.
These minerals can be used to build the next freigther for someone else, and so on...
Everlyn
Brave New World
CEO
German Gaming Community
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belzebub1
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:05:00 -
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Just to provide some feedback to some items raised in posts.
1. Making BPc's
It takes a lot longer to make a BPc of the components and Freighter Bpo thatn it does to build them thus making BPc's is not looking to attractive :
2.
Production will take a small bit of time to ramp up, We are producing our first Obelisk in a few days - Once we get consistent supplies of components we can then speed up production. production time if you make the components and then the ship is about 30 days. If we get a constant component supply and build our own we can get production time down to about 15 days. 
3.
BYOM deals certainly do involve trust. We would not offer 200% collateral as that is a bigger risk than you giving us your minerals. If a person has concerns but wants a BYOM please contact us ingame to discuss;We can come to a mutually benefical agreement.
4.
Freighter price is currentley at 1.2B;Note that this price will change with market changes. Once you place an order and we agree a price then the price is set. Note we will only agree a price a small period of time before production especially if we have a long waiting list. If you are doing a BYOM the you don't need to worry about minreal price fluctuations.
Thanks for your time guys
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Sadist
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:19:00 -
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So when will the first freighter be available?
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
"One Trit to rule them all, One Trit to find them, One Trit to bring them all, and in the veldspar bind them"
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kal Zakath
Quote:
P.P.s - The BPo's are being researched, in under 5 days they will be at ME10.
We have the Obelisk BPO also. Researching material eff. says 6weeks 2days per level w/max skills. How are you getting your prints to ME10 in 6 days?
Hi Kal,
I was talking about the component BPc's, they take 5 days to get to ME10 
and yes, the obelisk takes a while to research ME :(
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |
Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:23:00 -
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Our first cutsomers freighter will enter production in 4 days when the BPo's for the components have been researched, we ESTIMATE that the whole building process MAY take 30 days.
We are trying to strike a deal with capital component manufacturers to help us produce the components, this will drastically reduce the time taken to produce these ships.
Currently it will take 16 days just to manufacture the cargo bays, that is, if we only produce the components ourselves.
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |
Sadist
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:29:00 -
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30 days before the first freighter sees the light of day?
Holy ******* ****, i can't possibly wait that long. 
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
"One Trit to rule them all, One Trit to find them, One Trit to bring them all, and in the veldspar bind them"
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Heikki
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:35:00 -
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Would like to order one Gallente Freighter for the cash price; although would prefer first to know more exact estimates of schedules (and position in the waiting queue..).
-Lasse
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:39:00 -
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We will enter negotiations with at least 1 component manufacturer some time today.
Hopefully we can pull the waiting time down to the minimal 16 days.
I shall keep you informed.
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |
Joe
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:43:00 -
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You can't offer any collatoral for the 1 bil+ of minerals? thanx for your time, I withdraw my request for a Byom.
Oberon Tech II Sales. |
DeODokktor
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Posted - 2005.07.07 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Joe
You can't offer any collatoral for the 1 bil+ of minerals? thanx for your time, I withdraw my request for a Byom.
If they did as you requested
and gave you 200% of the minerals value as collatoral..
then I too would opt for that deal.. Only I would exit the deal, keep the collatoral, and let them keep the overpriced minerals.
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Joe
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Posted - 2005.07.07 08:05:00 -
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for this arguement i'd like the cost of freighters in minerals to be 1 bil isk. (to keep it simple.)
The freighter will not be sold for 1 bil isk. It will fetch far more, 200%? maybe.
If they only paid 1 bil collatoral, and sold for 1 bil isk (to a corp member for example) they haven't only screwed me out of 1bil, but the time and effort to get
13,358,465 m¦ of minerals into 1 station.
There isn't 1 station in eve you can goto and buy every mineral required for a freighter.
I love your offer of moving bp to the cleints mineral stash, this truely has to be the best method. If you dont offer collatoral worth more than the minerals, more than the hassle of collecting that many minerals in 1 spot, and close to the final retail price of a built freighter then i think your only going to attract gullible impatient people, the type of people that got ripped of doing byom deals for BS in the first month or release |
belzebub1
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Posted - 2005.07.07 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Joe
You can't offer any collatoral for the 1 bil+ of minerals? thanx for your time, I withdraw my request for a Byom.
As mentioned in my post Joe we are willing to discuss colloteral ingame with anyone who is interested in a BYOM deal. I will be online from about 17:00 Eve time if you wish to convo me.
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Digitix
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Posted - 2005.07.07 09:55:00 -
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I'm offering ready built Obelisks, in case anybody needs them... building time is 1,5 weeks tho, about....
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Digitix
I'm offering ready built Obelisks, in case anybody needs them... building time is 1,5 weeks tho, about....
Thank's for the hi-jack...
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |
Rillian
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Posted - 2005.07.07 20:41:00 -
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will you be doing the caldari freighter one? if yes i would be interested in a byom + isk deal . Send me a message ingame if you can
Thanks. Also if I am able to get one soon I can offer my hauling assistance to you to
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.07.07 20:52:00 -
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Sorry, but at the moment we are only producing the gallente and minmitar freighters,
~Vistilantus
~I don't Have an attitude problem, YOU have a perception problem. |
KillerLennart
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Posted - 2005.07.08 02:07:00 -
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Keep looking ppl, and other ppl dont highjack our treat to sell your own frighters.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.08 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Digitix
I'm offering ready built Obelisks, in case anybody needs them... building time is 1,5 weeks tho, about....
building time now at 3.5weeks aswel eh
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.07.08 13:32:00 -
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While im in full agreement if byom deals are to become popular there needs to be protection other than faith.
Ill vouch for the integrity of this corp to follow your faith in good order.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.08 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Galk
While im in full agreement if byom deals are to become popular there needs to be protection other than faith.
Ill vouch for the integrity of this corp to follow your faith in good order.
i`ll second that, wired a nice sum to them with 200% confidence
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DonTrump
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:26:00 -
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Im very pleased to announce 1 deal of a Fenir has been made. The guys at Magma are 2nd to none to work with! 
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belzebub1
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Posted - 2005.07.09 19:45:00 -
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Thanks Don,
We are still taking orders, There is a bit of a waiting list on the Obelisk.
If anyone is intrested convo or Eve mail me . Note we also do isk deal,
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.10 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: belzebub1
Thanks Don,
We are still taking orders, There is a bit of a waiting list on the Obelisk.
If anyone is intrested convo or Eve mail me . Note we also do isk deal,
just admit u like mining and there for doing isk deals
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Darklogan
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Posted - 2005.07.10 09:26:00 -
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Hi, i sent you an ingame mail with a deal.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.13 11:32:00 -
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think they still want to mine more so give them a reason
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