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Tano
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:39:00 -
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Security briefing: SMaK directors
Date: 23341AD 6 July 18:00 hours
Attendees: Classified
Location: Republic Fleet Hedaleofarber
Edited minutes:
This meeting has been called to discuss the assassination of Doriam II, possible reaction and actions or preparations we should take. Each of you has a briefing in front of you and I suggest we go through each item in turn.
1.Who killed Doriam
a.One of the Heirs
In some ways the most likely they all potentially have motive ū the wish to become emperor, difficulties with the policies of Doriam ū and they have the means and the opportunity. The downside is however considerable. Should it be discovered one of them did it they would either be disowned by their House or there would be civil war . Even if they were disowned trust would be destroyed and a civil war a distinct possibility. As an additional downside who will be the next emperor is something of a lottery and failed candidates are expected to commit suicide. On an 80% chance of losing, a big risk. There are two big qualifications to this however.
Our assessment of Artico Kor-Azor is that heĘs a borderline sociopath. While patricide is a horrendous crime we would not put it past him or the belief that he would then be the next emperor.
House Sarum is violently opposed to the current leadership and there remain rumours that Jamyl Sarum did not commit ritual suicide, rumours we have never been able to confirm or deny. For reasons of honour or simply the belief that Doriam was a bad emperor it is possible House Sarum could have carried out the assassination.
b.A religious faction
Since the incident at the cathedral at Eclipticum elements of the Amarr faithful have been less than inspired and have even felt betrayed by Doriam. This has been compounded by the dispute over the Tetrimon scrolls and the Tetrimon can safely be described as enemies of Doriam and the Kor-Azor family. It is difficult to underestimate the influence that Religion has in Amarr life even at the highest levels so again there is motive. The empire is aware of the risk but it is certainly possible Dorian was killed by fanatics.
c.Amarr loyalist alliances
The CVA can best be described as slavish loyalists to the empire in both public and private and we can see no motive for them to be behind the assassination.
The Aegis Milita is however more interesting. Many AM members are loyal to more traditional arms of the empire in particular House Sarum. They would favour a change of emperor as they regard Doriam as weak. This gives them motive. We would however, doubt their ability to carry out the assassination. While they may have some support in the pod pilot community their planet side support is we believe weak and the logistics of such an assassination beyond them.
d.Blood Raiders
A very popular choice for the perpetrators. The Raiders have clear motive and the urgent need for confusion to cover their withdrawal following recent defeats. The Raiders have been around for a long time and it is certainly possible there are infiltrators at high levels of Amarr society and the Amarr military giving them opportunity.
e.The Republic
Clearly the empire is our enemy while our people are enslaved giving a motive. Karin has however, taken a diplomatic line seeming to believe genuinely that appeasement is the appropriate strategy. Further if such an action was taken the most likely response of the Empire would be all out war. While this would no doubt be welcomed by many of our pilots our assessments say that we are not ready for such a conflict and though heavy damage could be inflicted on the Empire a heavy defeat would be risked. As support for the view that the Republic was not involved we have not heard a whisper from any Republic source, be it political, security or military. It must also be noted that Doriam as a weak emperor was in many ways regarded as favourable to the Republic. The unofficial assessment is that he would weaken the empire so bringing about the freedom of our brothers and sisters earlier. The successor will be an unknown quantity.
Could a rogue element of Republic forces have carried out the attack? While not impossible we would regard this is highly unlikely. The Republics leaders are well aware of the hatred many citizens bear for the Empire and those who come into contact with the Empire are rigorously selected and monitored. While this does not mean the odd individual could slip through the net we do not believe the level of organisation required would be possible.
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Tano
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:40:00 -
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f. Us
Alliance council received no request and cleared no request for such an attack. It must further be acknowledged that we lack the capability for such an attack at Alliance level and even more so at individual corporation level. Had Doriam been killed in space we may be under suspicion, indeed which pilot present would say if the emperor was under his guns he would not give the order to fire. Given the circumstances it can safely be said we were not involved.
g.Others
There are no other good candidates. But wilder theories are:
-a Caldari corporation, never underestimate greed and the potential for profit in times of uncertainty;
-the Ammatar, possible fears that Doriam would not provide the with the support they need to survive;
-the Khanid, motive unknown.
The lone fanatic should also never be ignored.
Very well the current position therefore is we do not know. We shall continue to monitor developments.
2.Consequences
The immediate consequence can be seen already with the closure of the main short routes into the empire. The empire is drawing into itself for a period of introspection. This will make it more awkward for our pilots to reach the empire but the difficulty is trivial. More interesting will be the effect on trade. The empire is now surrounded by lower security space, piracy can be expected to increase leading to greater impoverishment, deprivation and unhappiness within the empire.
Reports are in already that non Amarr subjects are subject to restriction and that the security services are stepping up repression. Localised unrest and possible uprisings may be expected and we should gear up to support.
The bigger picture is unclear. The succession is wide open and the heirĘs policies unknown. There is the potential for the break up of the empire if the Houses fight. It is possible to prevent this an external threat will be found (the Republic?) in an attempt to unite behind a common enemy.
We will prepare projections and strategies to respond to potential empire actions.
It is agreed that to this point edited minutes should be prepared and distributed.
The meeting is now in close session.
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Shiner BockBeer
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Posted - 2005.07.06 23:08:00 -
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Well said.
All respect.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.07.06 23:44:00 -
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I love conspiracy theories
Watch all the little people chasing their tails, it's quite funny
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:02:00 -
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Actually a very good, accurate brief on all counts.
One thing I would like to point out:
 Originally by: Tano
While they may have some support in the pod pilot community their planet side support is we believe weak and the logistics of such an assassination beyond them.
I think our planet-side support has increased dramatically in the newly reclaimed systems of Sahtogas, Oyonata, and Kurniainen. But that still wouldn't give the us the ability to carry out such an assassination, even if we wanted to.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.07.07 15:07:00 -
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A good summary.
Whoever perputated this attack would indeed have to be either deep within the Emporers trust, or you would think, have the support of certain elements within the goverment. As you would expect the Emporer to be very tightly defended.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.07.07 19:46:00 -
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Caldari Corporations hmm?
Lovely 
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.07.07 22:51:00 -
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Why any of this would be classified is beyond me...anyone who sat down and thought about it would come up with the same ideas. SMAK can, in no significant way, make an impact on the affairs of any empire, especially the Amarr empire...this is apes trying to pretend they know how to be secret squirrels :)
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.07.07 22:51:00 -
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Why any of this would be classified is beyond me...anyone who sat down and thought about it would come up with the same ideas. SMAK can, in no significant way, make an impact on the affairs of any empire, especially the Amarr empire...this is apes trying to pretend they know how to be secret squirrels :)
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.07.07 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Russo
Why any of this would be classified is beyond me...anyone who sat down and thought about it would come up with the same ideas. SMAK can, in no significant way, make an impact on the affairs of any empire, especially the Amarr empire...this is apes trying to pretend they know how to be secret squirrels :)
It's declassified. Meaning the sensetive stuff they don't want us to know has been removed or no longer deemed sensetive.
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.07.08 04:45:00 -
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I didnt notice anything blacked out or missing...and this nonsense wasnt even anything worth being deemed classified to begin with.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.07.08 08:43:00 -
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Go back to your pod boot licker.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.07.08 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Russo
I didnt notice anything blacked out or missing...and this nonsense wasnt even anything worth being deemed classified to begin with.
Not blacked out or missing? These forums don't allow for blacking out of data, so said data was removed completely. Also known as missing, which means you wouldn't see it.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:05:00 -
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It's not as if no one considered these theories in the first place is it?
Odd for a classified document. 10 out fo 10 for flair and presentation, but 2 out of 10 for anything really new.
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.07.08 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Russo
I didnt notice anything blacked out or missing...and this nonsense wasnt even anything worth being deemed classified to begin with.
Welcome to the post-digital age Russo. Where each word was copied and pasted from the original manifesto, and the magical delete key was used to remove what we don't want you to see, including our inteligence resource gathering methods and important dates and locations. Such as where Darius' secret stash of cinnamon coffee sweetener is in the Ushra'Khan conference room, and the fact that on the second Tuesday of each month there is an organised hunt by the other members to locate the stash and share the spoils of the hunt in their aromatic Pator roast Mug-o'-Jo.
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.07.08 22:52:00 -
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Asheraven gets the idea, the rest of you are just ignorant. The posting of this serves ZERO purpose at all. All of it is things anyone else who watches the news could figure out. Essentially this "declass" document reviews the last couple of weeks news, and some speculation from the guests on the news shows. Whoopy doo...
And Darth...just for an example. The governments of the world do not waste time releasing declassified documents pretty much saying...there was a meeting...regarding something everyone in the world knows about...and we discussed some things that everyone with a brain might have discussed if they choosed to discuss this.
The reason being...OF COURSE THEY DISCUSSED IT! Did they discuss anything top secret...sure...maybe...but why bother releasing a totally pointless thing that anyone would have assumed in the 1st place. SMAK is no government, they are terrorists, and anyone with a mind will know that whatever they discussed was anti amarr...duh...
I rest my case. Everyone please be open to common sense.
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.07.09 11:25:00 -
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It's not as if no one considered these theories in the first place is it?
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Asheraven gets the idea, the rest of you are just ignorant. The posting of this serves ZERO purpose at all. All of it is things anyone else who watches the news could figure out.
OK, before I go find a brick wall yo bang my head against, let me say this. You are saying we should not air our views on the matter because most people might already have similar views? OK well I will go to the nearest library and start burning books then, since most of them contain views and theories that most people could figure out for themselves too.
And it does serve a purpose. It highlights and affirms what our views on the subject are. I would expect anyone serving in a militaristic body with a political agenda to understand that simple concept. Though ti seems that the political agenda of AMAX has been lost as of late so I can be a little forgiving on that point.
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Essentially this "declass" document reviews the last couple of weeks news, and some speculation from the guests on the news shows. Whoopy doo...
If that is true, which it is not as it's a really broad generalisation anyway, then why havent you written to the media companies and told them off for posting what you say we have too? Isn't that falling into the same catagory as 'other people can figure this out for themselves' that you have been throwing around like so many cigarette ends?
And your theory is a broad generalisation because I don't see the news debating possible identities of the perpetrators of the assassination, their political motives and the possible projected future outcome of these actions for each person. So please conscider that deeply before you post again.
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And Darth...just for an example. The governments of the world do not waste time releasing declassified documents pretty much saying...there was a meeting...regarding something everyone in the world knows about...and we discussed some things that everyone with a brain might have discussed if they choosed to discuss this.
Erm... yes they do actually.
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SMAK is no government, they are terrorists, and anyone with a mind will know that whatever they discussed was anti amarr...duh...
Incliding the possibility that Midular was behind this? Or the fact that the Bloodraiders are a strong favourite? Really 'anti-amarr' discussion.
Russo, you have embarrased yourself with short sightedness. If you cannot appreciate this for what it is then please do not bother reading it. Governments release minutes from meetings, filtering out the bits they don't want you to see. They don't shove it in your face but they are archived for the public consumption. The fact that people can 'guess' they debated it does not invalidate the topics brought forwards.
No, SMAK and the Ushra'Khan are not a government, but that doesn't mean we cannot hold meetings and release the topic of debate and the results of the said debate to show what opinions we hold. I'm sure the CVA have debated this too, and while they would have held the Bloodraider theory high, they would have also debated the possibility of Ushra'Khan involvement and the Minmatar Republic as well. I bet they held those pretty high too since their viewpoint on the matter and their bias would let them believe that which we dismiss. People are different Russo, thats why debates are released to the public, and thats why we released this one so stop poking holes in things that aren't there and get back to keeping your ruffled corporation together!
And, one more point, and this was said earlier but you must have missed it, this is called a 'declassified' report because information we do not want you to see is not there. Not because the above information was classified at some point. It was never intended to be a top secret meeting. But top secret information was discussed none the less and filtered! So deal with it!
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.07.10 04:36:00 -
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For the love of God...
Sure these things are archived, but released as if some breaking news bulletin...NO.
And yes these topics have been discussed many times on the news. Just because they werent on the news ticker when you activate your pod doesnt mean that one of the thousands of news agencies in the EVE universe didnt cover it. If you get what I am saying.
These things would be kept stored up somewhere for research purposed later on, or historical documentation...it isnt just thrown out on page 3 of the paper or whatever. Nonsense...
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.07.10 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Shakor on 10/07/2005 09:54:31
edit: Whatever. removed because I was angry and tired and haven't had coffee. I'll leave it be.
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.07.10 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Xav Vorbarra on 10/07/2005 10:15:29
Xav Vorbarra puffs on his pipe
I think the point here, about argueing over points made regarding the material that was posted first that details an elongated copy of the GalNet Emperor assassination report is...
Who actually cares about it's authenticity or origninality?
Just read it and if you feel the need to post an opinion that is constructive, do.
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